Crossing the Boundaries: A Conversation with Invisible Chinese Science Fiction

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okay hello everyone my name is Michael

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berry I am the director of the Center

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for Chinese Studies at UCLA and a

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professor of Asian languages and

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cultures and it is my great pleasure to

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present our speaker today on our second

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series of CCS online this is our new

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series during coronavirus to present new

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and exciting ideas from a variety of

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different fields and Chinese studies and

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today we have a wonderful scholar and

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writer who is Shahji also known as Wang

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Yao professor Wang Yao teaches and she

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and University and currently Angelica

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University XI an Jiaotong University and

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she's currently also a visiting scholar

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at UC Riverside she previously had done

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a lot of her studies at Peking

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University in a variety of different

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fields I believe her undergraduate

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research was on Astro furyk sciences and

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later she studied film studies for her

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master's degree in comparative

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literature for her PhD but aside from

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her record as an academic Wang Yao is

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also regarded as one of the leading

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voices of the new wave of science

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fiction in China she's the author of

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numerous books I will hold a few of them

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up these are just a few of her

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collections of short stories and along

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with writers like pencil and notes is

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shin I think she's really regarded as

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women to cutting-edge figures in the new

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Chinese science fiction wave there is a

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forthcoming collection of her work in

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English I believe the title is a summer

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beyond your reach so you can look for

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that and she's also besides writing in

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Chinese she also has published short

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stories in English that she has written

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and we're just so delighted that you're

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here today to share some of your

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thoughts and reflections on Chinese

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science fiction and the title of sha

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jaws talked today sha job by the ways

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her pen name which he writes in her

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fiction and the title of her talk today

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is crossing the boundaries a

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conversation with invisible Chinese

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it's fiction so I will turn it over to

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Professor shot thank you thank you very

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much haha everyone very nice - even

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though I cannot see you I love you

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personally but three very happy to see

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you online and also many steps for

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professor Perry for making this happen

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so today I will just give you some of my

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own stories about Chinese science

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fiction firstly that's like a very

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conventional action I would just add

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something about myself introduction

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actually many people especially like

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English readers after me that true how

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can they call me should should should

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they call me like a shower oh yeah or

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like I said yeah or something like that

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so it's just as Professor Perry

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explained that shirt Wang Yao is my true

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name and the Shia is my pseudonym for

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Santa karate so it's very interesting is

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that as I began to use this pseudo name

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when I was in college at sometimes

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charge I still and in many years

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following its it's like a it's like a

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indicates like my second dark secret

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life it's a is like a secondary mission

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of my life

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and Wang Yao is the normal decent normal

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what yeah just like of ordinary people

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however since Chinese section became

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surprisingly popular here is the years

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then the hope to say that like the

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thirty I began to rise and recite

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Chinese science fiction and began to got

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more and more important and got more and

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more attention and another tricky thing

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is that one yo is also began oh you also

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began to involve in science fiction

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studies so in this case that's my this

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true identities of me began to interview

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each other also vary in size fiction

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you're very science fictional way so

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your will come to coming ow or professor

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Wang Oh sir or

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also come here summer sees like the

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Chinese character charming summer and by

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the way some people after me was a

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meaning of sad was a meaning of Jar Jar

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the Chinese captured Charming's which is

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like ancient musical instrument

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something like a flute

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however the Chinese capture of many

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Chinese people mistake the jaw as shear

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which means a clock so many Chinese many

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of my friends from Chinese sighs become

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community

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they call me chisel or see a girl or

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something like that so you can come at

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plant has a nickname if you want and

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also there's one book last year

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published which is like my first

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academic attraction Chinese kind of is

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sweet I'd also be also coordinates of

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future discussions on Chinese s diction

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in the age of globalization which is in

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Chinese so if you can read Chinese you

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can try to find out book and to read my

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size picture status and the picture in

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the slide the picture on the right is

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the cover of my first coming my first

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English sized picture stories collection

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a summer beyond your reach which

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actually is badly delayed or for many

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reasons but I think right now the Ebert

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in Israel so you can try to find it and

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today our intent to talk about a bit

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more a bit about like a Chinese science

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fiction it's a really really super super

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big topic so my pillar my place to give

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you a very very brief introduction on

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the history and also the recent is

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situation of Chinese fiction and then I

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will focus on more on my own experience

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on how I witnessed the magical

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development of Chinese science fiction

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in the past thirty years and how I

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became a science fiction fan and then

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became a seismic writer and then a

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science fiction researcher during this

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process and how

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sighs fiction changed me and became a

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way of life of me so that's the schedule

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of today so firstly let us start from

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this amazing chart the title is the

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history of citation it is created by an

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artist which his name is what Shelley so

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this picture this chart shows the entire

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history of science fiction from its

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earnest Jews a mythology and legends

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choose the latest TV shows and novels

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however however if you take a bit close

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look on this chart you have found that

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the science fiction from non-english

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speaking countries including this

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Chinese a fiction cannot be found in

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this chart I tried many times and I

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cannot find a hint of tiny section so in

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other words Chinese science fiction is

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invisible is unsane or in other words is

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exfoliator in the history of science

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fiction so I think three years ago in

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2017 this chart is was was printed out

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and it's heavy tail Turing's of force

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China international size fiction

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conference and many people many audience

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the marveled at this chart but there was

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one person his Italian people is my

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friend from Italian

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actually his name is Francis commercial

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it's a very good Santaquin writer and

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also editor he was greatly he's

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satisfied with this child he so he said

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to Arab people he met his exact you

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should not just a satisfy the with this

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chart you should create a new chart a

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chart of the history of Chinese fiction

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or the eastern science fiction yourself

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so that that is his suggestion so very

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good thing is that two years later we

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have this new chart we had this one so

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this one is pretty

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by a Chinese science fiction culture

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company its name is future of fierce

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administration real I show what lead you

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so as time is limited I would just

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briefly introduce the basic time law of

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the Chinese fiction in the past 100

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years which is generally divided into

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five periods so the first one is the

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latest in dynasty is interpreting from

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1902 to 1904 1905 a ssin of the republic

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of china to 1949 the foundation of the

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People's Republic of China the second

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one and then the third one the circuit

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is from 1949 to 1966 when the Cultural

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Revolution began and then the first one

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is from 1978 to 1990 during the

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so-called new era the Singh Shaanxi and

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then the fifth one is from 1992 today

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when Chinese science fiction quickly

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developed and finally became visible to

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the world so that's a basic timeline and

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then I would just pull up pull up a bit

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a bit like interesting stories happened

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during the fifth fifth period this

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period the experienced prison now is

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literally dated from actually 1991

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because that year of historical event

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happened so there was a journal which

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name is coach Giovanni scientific

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literature and art which is established

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in 1979 it is originally a more like a

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popular science journal couple surgery

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but in night in the late 1980s it began

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to cause very hard time and it was

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struggling to some wine so the editor of

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auditory or decided to change its

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approach of just irani this

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so they decided to change the mother's

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name into coal & shizzi a science

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fiction world and they decided to use

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science fiction as a tab for his market

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promotion and then this magazine paid

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great efforts true nurtures sizing

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writers the story size Detroiters and as

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well as fandom suspection fandom and got

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significant success in the late 1990s

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and it was at that time I began to read

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this magazine size award and became a

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big science fiction fan and then in 1989

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another very important historical event

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happened so there's a like a this exam

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its name is a national college entrance

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exam which influenced millions of

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students yesterday every year and in

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1980 no and in 1999 the the exact true

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chose rather sized fictional topic as a

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write-in pump so so if you can read

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Chinese you can see that in the

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instruction it said except that since

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that since the the achievements on human

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organ transportation some scientists

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argue that mammary transplantation would

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probably come true in in the future so

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the examinee are required to compose and

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nasi on the title of if the memory can

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be transplanted Giroux tea could eat you

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and this as it can be it can be a

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fictional story or an augmentation so

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this writing pump triggered wide social

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social concern that here because science

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fiction along with other popular ratings

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for example the romance stories yenching

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or mature martial art stories who share

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all of this are not encouraged in high

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school students in high school education

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in China for for very long time and the

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Sun laces his skins just came to change

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many parents realize that science

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fiction are not

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and not suspect rates just different

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from other popular rating it's

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discouraged by the garment so they began

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to pay more attention to encourages

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their kids to read more size fiction and

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so you can see on the left is an

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instruction of that writing pump and on

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the other side you can see that's what

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the science fiction world they what they

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did during the same period extra poor

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they found this can be a very good

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chance for their mark of their magazines

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promotion so just the two months later

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in the September the published several

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stories related to the the the very same

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sim like the mammary transplantation for

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example other long the cover can see the

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titles of shitty the te which means the

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stolen memory and the second is charity

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each if the memory can be transported so

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they make for use of this opportunity to

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to give their magazine a big pump true

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for for sale so in the following year in

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the 2000 year the magazine sales reached

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an unprecedented peak as 400,000 bottoms

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for that issue which is also I think is

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a like a historical record which never

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be kept up by other competitors

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so what happened that year in 1991

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happened to me a very important thing is

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that not here I was in green one of high

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school and our Chinese teacher gave us

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an assignment for the compensation

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course of writing an essay on if sub C

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can be transplanted which means you can

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replace memory as everything you can

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imagine

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so which gave me a chance to finish my

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very first science fiction story if

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dreams can be transplanted as you can

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see this is how it was shown on my

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composition notebook and this led mr.

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that that story is a kind of like a

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pastor of a Catholic he stopped here

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where human beings lived a very pathetic

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life in underground cities and I started

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dreaming anymore

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and one day is a protagonist she's a

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little girl

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a middle school little girl she kasam

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dream recording discs and viscous discs

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she began to trim those old dreams from

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The Forgotten Overground time which just

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over time so in the dreams she

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experienced some never experienced

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things for example that the ocean the

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beautiful sky the Sun sights the sunrise

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does grasp the ring all of these

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beautiful things and all of these dreams

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give her a big strong try to call for

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other people to struggle for return to

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the prom so that's a basic idea of the

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story so that story was about like a age

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thousand the Chinese characters which is

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quite quite quite long for a high school

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high school students I see so I had to

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past eight six extra pages to my

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composition notebook to ride on the

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horse story so this is this is my very

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first step and also a very big step of

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my sister crying and during those years

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in high school I had also rose

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of stories most of them are size diction

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and the one of the stories was inspired

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by Catron's tower of Babylon which is a

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masterpiece inter private missmiss

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logical and scientific visions in a very

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fascinating rate highly recommended

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recommended and some of you may have

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heard of Ted chaough the name of caption

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from of example arrival the 2016 science

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fiction film adapted from his work story

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of your life so when I finished the

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story my best friend my best girl friend

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her name is young she he read my story

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and then he wrote a piece of comment my

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in my notebook he or she said that if

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tower of Babylon is a kind of soft size

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fiction then your story can be regarded

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as poor science fiction chief anchor1 so

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because in China we have this kind of

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like a hard rise in fun and the soft

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rice run fun so hard science fiction is

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something even softer than the soft

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science fiction so that witches can be

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very hard to to separate it from other

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genres they just um just on the boundary

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between between science fiction and

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other terms for example Farah tears mace

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this kind of sees legends or fantasies

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so I think many some of the English

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sighs to be right a readers they get to

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know this term horror science fiction

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because of conversation between me and

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canoe his oz my good friend and one of

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the pesticides from writers and the

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translators and he translated most of

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the musicians work from Chinese into

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English and they did our conversation

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and which was published in 2015 in

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clucks war and I will come back to this

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term some horror science fiction later

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so three years later in 2001 I submitted

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I just submitted submitted several of my

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stories - sighs fiction water and it was

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my very first and the only time using

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the mailing system to submit stories so

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which is very impressive and a memorable

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and after I mailed my printed stories I

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waited and waited for maybe several

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weeks or maybe several months I can

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remember exactly and however exiting the

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end I received some rejection letters

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that's a very bad ending of the story

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but however however the actress still

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wrote me some very good words to

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encourage me so as a latch you can see

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that there's a comment from one editor

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the editor one he said the it's a very

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good story my story is a very good story

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so recommend to accept and please pay

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attention to nurture this talented young

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writer seeing you in future Jim a boy

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outside Tschida Georgia the talent is me

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however on the left you can see is a

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this is a letter from and the other

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additives added two new he explained why

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he decided to reject my story with a

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very actually reasonable reason however

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at the same time he also encouraged me

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to keep writing

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so here sorry here he said that he don't

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know Lee something that you see

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something you have you have some

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yeah you have some talent in writing

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these ashes all your food don't you

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wasted but don't spend too much time on

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writing and a delay your schoolwork so

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seriously is that she cheered me

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seriously

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and he was really serious to give me

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this subjection and I'm also very

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serious of accepting his suggestion so

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serious you learn in to sell in a forum

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and I was in college I published I

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finally finally publish my first a story

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quiet in a pencil that

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enslaving flat in size fiction story so

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suspect reward sorry so that story was

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inspired by a very scientific conception

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Maxwell's demon which is which is

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learned from the thermodynamics textbook

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I was learning at that time and as a

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story is actually very poor science

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fiction because you can see there's a

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real demon having conversation with a

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fitness business if it is to Maxwell in

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the story so that story was in original

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published online and I haven't have done

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that claim to submit the story however

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an editor from sastric reward rather

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story on why and he liked that so he

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decided to use a story to publish that

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and then I was also very lucky to be

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awarded the choosiness for galaxy award

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for the best new writer in curtain three

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Jocelyn John so the galaxy galaxies were

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awarded for the best stories published

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in science fiction war which is voted by

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these readers and it used to be the only

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in size exciting award in China in 1990s

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so here you can see on the right is the

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announcement page of the 2004 galaxy

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Wars so this is me with my son see a

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sense worse and another one here you can

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see in the left corner COCC he is also

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awarded for the packs for the best our

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stories action year and then my career

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as a size decorator just starting from

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that story and a sense then I wrote a

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series of cup of stories and I published

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many of the short and even novelist

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stories and then I want about like a

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seven galaxy award so far and in Tucson

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of twelve I published my first science

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fiction collection just as Professor

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berry shown

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the first one just also titled ask the

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team on enslaving blast and my first

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story translated into English the 100

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girls the pirate side was also published

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that here

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in Clarks Warren in Tucson and health

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which is translated by canoe as a

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mission he's a pastor when surpassed the

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writers and the translators and also

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that summer is in the summer of 2012 I

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traveled to the US for the very first

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time to attend work on the world science

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fiction convention and that was a very

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memorable journal and that time I it was

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my first time to match can do physically

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and also I witnessed him Callooh veining

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his first a Hugo Award and here's a

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picture of some of the Chinese and the

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Chinese American participants including

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for example canoe and ginger fan and

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housing van and sorry yes and yeah and

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there's also me and you can guess which

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one is me and another picture the one on

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the right is my favorite American

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seismic writer Ray Bradbury who passed

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away just two months ago just two months

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before I come the world calm so I

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participated a memorial panel for him

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and I shared how his works influenced me

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it's also very very good experience but

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one of the most precious moments during

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the world kong is that when i was on a

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panel on science fiction on chinese

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science fiction after all of the

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panelists introduced the chinese science

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fiction one audience he asked me and

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other participants of a very tough

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crashing what makes Chinese a speaking

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Chinese so that's a very big crashing

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and the very challenging one

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so that's question challenged me and

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also haunted me for a very long time and

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then that that question just became the

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primer of the primary problematic of my

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ph.d program so two years later in 2014

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I finished my PhD students dissertation

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entitled 2005 sentido continue Shiva

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fears and hopes in era of globalization

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Chinese science fiction and its cultural

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politics politics since 1991 to 2012

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so here's a picture of the freshly

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printed dissertations because even here

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you can you can tell from the picture

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that is very acrobatic one with about

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you like a 300,000 Chinese Chinese

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captures so but no English translation

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and another picture is me as a

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dissertation defense book it looks quite

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see and I can I cannot remember why why

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I'm so confused but if you feel

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interested in my science fiction studies

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in contemporary Chinese science fiction

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maybe you can read my shorter paper

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entitled national Algar in the era of

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globalization which is written in

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English about like ten thousand words

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and that paper just elaborates the main

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idea in my dissertation so maybe later I

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can just the just the center paper to

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Professor Barry I think you interested

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you can just get a paper and have a look

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and then after my graduation I got a

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teaching job at XI an Jiaotong

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University and that became a a teacher

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at the University and in 2014 my story

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which it is really really really a short

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one but but also my first story written

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in English entitled unless our talk was

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published in nature some may be the most

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amongst the most famous scientific

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journey

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cuz maybe many people doesn't know many

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people don't know that the Nature has a

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column special column for flash

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science-fiction entitled a futures so

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when I firstly heard of this news of an

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i firstly read some of the stories from

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the column I realized that maybe I can

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also try to write a shredder short story

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in English and the sub means that story

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true nature and then if I lucky enough

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maybe I can I could be the may be the

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first the Chinese people who publish a

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science fiction in nature which sounds

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really cool so I had a try and then I

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was very luckily to to succeed and the

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gossip story perish so maybe some of you

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have already read a story if you have

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not sorry first boring so the basic idea

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of the story is about like a talking

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with the guitar have a conversation with

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00:29:12,450 --> 00:29:19,380

a I so the main character of the story

561

00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:22,649

is it's a female linguist and she was

562

00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:25,649

invited to strong a problem that some

563

00:29:22,649 --> 00:29:28,830

intelligent toys with appearances of

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00:29:25,649 --> 00:29:31,380

very killed Co pups had created a new

565

00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:34,620

language which humans could not

566

00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:37,320

understand so the licorice suggested

567

00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:38,159

that instead of fearing from those

568

00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,549

pastels

569

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they should have the courage to talk to

570

00:29:41,549 --> 00:29:46,980

them and so in the end of story she

571

00:29:44,490 --> 00:29:50,909

became the first human saying hello

572

00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:54,029

through the sills so the story have to

573

00:29:50,909 --> 00:29:57,240

admit that the story is originally

574

00:29:54,029 --> 00:30:01,500

inspired also by tip jar story the story

575

00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:04,200

of a life in that story of there's also

576

00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:07,350

the main character is also a female

577

00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:10,340

linguist and she persuaded the military

578

00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:13,409

commander that the proper way of study

579

00:30:10,340 --> 00:30:15,779

alien language is not to analyze their

580

00:30:13,409 --> 00:30:19,080

grammar structures through for example

581

00:30:15,779 --> 00:30:22,320

recording materials just as expected in

582

00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:25,289

most science fiction movies but to talk

583

00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:28,050

to them face to face and the lesson to

584

00:30:25,289 --> 00:30:33,240

study human language at the same time

585

00:30:28,050 --> 00:30:36,810

so I think that is the most important

586

00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:40,380

lesson I have ever learned from the best

587

00:30:36,810 --> 00:30:44,280

sighs fiction stories which is just to

588

00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:47,430

embrace the difference to communicate

589

00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,800

with which the other needs to have the

590

00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:52,380

courage to knock as a tool and to cross

591

00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,620

the boundaries between for example

592

00:30:52,380 --> 00:30:57,690

different languages different cultures

593

00:30:54,620 --> 00:31:02,430

different words the boundary between the

594

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world of known and unknown so in my

595

00:31:02,430 --> 00:31:08,270

story in let's have a talk

596

00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:12,750

the nature because that stories you

597

00:31:08,270 --> 00:31:15,420

nurtured in a first-person narration so

598

00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:20,580

the nature she actually she's she came

599

00:31:15,420 --> 00:31:23,730

from China so at the story she decided

600

00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:24,240

to use her mother tongue to say hello to

601

00:31:23,730 --> 00:31:29,250

the cells

602

00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:34,560

as you can see in the master master lies

603

00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:37,620

a lot of sentences so you can see that

604

00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,660

he said much Nihao and then he sat down

605

00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:40,350

social Harwich means let's have a talk

606

00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:44,160

shall we

607

00:31:40,350 --> 00:31:45,740

and another interesting it that says my

608

00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,230

story is written in the first person

609

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without any crude of the nature's jan

610

00:31:49,230 --> 00:31:58,770

gender so in the first draft of the

611

00:31:54,290 --> 00:31:59,940

illustration as it's on the left you can

612

00:31:58,770 --> 00:32:02,400

see that's a first draft

613

00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:05,640

the figures coding in the flock of sea

614

00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:08,760

pups is apparently a male because the

615

00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:11,880

the artist who created that illustration

616

00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:15,570

he thought he naturally thought that the

617

00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:18,900

narrator should be a male but then after

618

00:32:15,570 --> 00:32:22,920

I saw this illustration I feel he's

619

00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:24,930

satisfied with this figure so I wrote a

620

00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,110

mail to the editor of nature and

621

00:32:24,930 --> 00:32:31,350

explained the implication of gender

622

00:32:28,110 --> 00:32:34,500

issue except that this character has to

623

00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:38,100

be a middle-aged female from China

624

00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:41,610

rather than a white male engineer and

625

00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:46,290

that is very that very crucial for

626

00:32:41,610 --> 00:32:50,400

story so good thing that's the editor

627

00:32:46,290 --> 00:32:54,510

kindly accepted my opinion and then he

628

00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:56,700

after the artists true device the

629

00:32:54,510 --> 00:33:00,170

alliteration and so in the final version

630

00:32:56,700 --> 00:33:05,100

you can see that the feeder has a longer

631

00:33:00,170 --> 00:33:09,840

haircut and maybe a bit bigger breast as

632

00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:13,919

you can see here so he became a sheen in

633

00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:16,980

the final version so that's that is a

634

00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:20,630

story behind the da behind my first

635

00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:26,400

story rich in English let's have a talk

636

00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:29,160

so in the year of 2015 I came to the US

637

00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,919

for the work home for the second time

638

00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:36,120

and this time the word curl is held in

639

00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:39,059

Spokane yes it was him spoken and and

640

00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,580

this time I witnessed the news sessions

641

00:33:39,059 --> 00:33:45,679

the three-body problem was a Hugo Award

642

00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:51,720

for the past and no the past novel and

643

00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:55,140

such a word was announced by art Renaud

644

00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:58,590

from the international space station so

645

00:33:55,140 --> 00:33:59,370

during the ceremony all the audience in

646

00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:02,720

the stadium

647

00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:06,179

we just we can see from the big stream

648

00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:09,300

from the big screen that this astronaut

649

00:34:06,179 --> 00:34:12,000

she was just floating in the

650

00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:16,530

International Space Station and the he

651

00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:19,820

unlost at the winner is the three-body

652

00:34:16,530 --> 00:34:22,560

program and then he is through the book

653

00:34:19,820 --> 00:34:25,980

throughout the book to the camera and

654

00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:29,340

all of audience can see can see that the

655

00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:30,480

book was floating toward the camera in

656

00:34:29,340 --> 00:34:33,149

original estate

657

00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,560

so what which was a super super crew and

658

00:34:33,149 --> 00:34:39,480

a super-sized fictional moment and very

659

00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,790

historical moment because that's a very

660

00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,359

first time for our Chinese and also

661

00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:49,889

translated work to one this past novel

662

00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:52,710

Hugo Warner and you can you can imagine

663

00:34:49,889 --> 00:34:55,429

that how crazy I was screaming as had

664

00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:58,460

momentum in the last man

665

00:34:55,429 --> 00:35:00,829

however it was a bit pity that you see

666

00:34:58,460 --> 00:35:03,319

what wasn't there because he didn't

667

00:35:00,829 --> 00:35:06,760

believe that he would want the Hyuga one

668

00:35:03,319 --> 00:35:09,559

so so Kelly was there as a translator he

669

00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:14,059

accepted the trophy and give the sacks

670

00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:17,960

for this regime and and the during the

671

00:35:14,059 --> 00:35:20,960

work Hong I also have other interesting

672

00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:24,770

stories for example I interviewed charge

673

00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:28,490

our martini and I carefully prepared a

674

00:35:24,770 --> 00:35:31,190

gift for him so as you can see the

675

00:35:28,490 --> 00:35:35,900

picture the gift is a Chinese fan this

676

00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:39,079

category feeling on one side so this for

677

00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:43,730

captures our culture mapping which

678

00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:47,119

litter makes god of the pit Martin so in

679

00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:51,049

Chinese when the officer created a super

680

00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:54,920

long work it's called we call this

681

00:35:51,049 --> 00:35:56,779

action as I like on digging a pinch so

682

00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,359

God has a big mix the author keeps

683

00:35:56,779 --> 00:36:02,539

writing but never finish so the readers

684

00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:04,960

who have fallen into the peach can only

685

00:36:02,539 --> 00:36:07,760

wait in the peach gas room desperately

686

00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,920

so that's what Chinese people call

687

00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,279

Martin we call him pitch because of page

688

00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:16,520

function so after the interview I give

689

00:36:13,279 --> 00:36:19,819

the fans an essential heart Mary and

690

00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:22,609

explained the meaning of the categories

691

00:36:19,819 --> 00:36:26,690

and the case seemed really happy with

692

00:36:22,609 --> 00:36:31,069

that so he does a concert send and have

693

00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:34,760

had this picture and also after war calm

694

00:36:31,069 --> 00:36:37,750

I actually accidentally got a chance to

695

00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:40,970

meet Jeff Chang in person in Belleville

696

00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:43,130

which is where he lived and actually

697

00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:45,500

touched on his are not very sociable

698

00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:49,250

people and he doesn't show around a bit

699

00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:52,369

a lot so you imagine how excited I was

700

00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:55,180

when I got to know that I have this

701

00:36:52,369 --> 00:37:00,099

opportunity to talk to him face to face

702

00:36:55,180 --> 00:37:03,319

so I'll be Matt in a cafe in ba Bo and

703

00:37:00,099 --> 00:37:08,059

after I introduced myself as a siphon

704

00:37:03,319 --> 00:37:09,349

rider from China and I how I got rule of

705

00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:12,739

his stories when I

706

00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:15,289

in high school and he replied that yes I

707

00:37:12,739 --> 00:37:19,069

know I know that part science fact

708

00:37:15,289 --> 00:37:21,890

fiction right and I said yes and then I

709

00:37:19,069 --> 00:37:24,589

just stuck for a stone for a [ __ ] for a

710

00:37:21,890 --> 00:37:27,680

short time and then suddenly I realized

711

00:37:24,589 --> 00:37:30,259

that he just had read my conversation

712

00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:33,859

with canoe which he doesn't publish that

713

00:37:30,259 --> 00:37:37,400

a few years earlier so he already know

714

00:37:33,859 --> 00:37:40,819

who I am and now I already know my my

715

00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:43,809

likes my connection of the connection

716

00:37:40,819 --> 00:37:47,749

between my own seismic writing with him

717

00:37:43,809 --> 00:37:49,489

so if you have read a story of life you

718

00:37:47,749 --> 00:37:53,299

may know that the story is just

719

00:37:49,489 --> 00:37:56,269

basically around the concept of of time

720

00:37:53,299 --> 00:38:00,410

and in the story is a female linguist

721

00:37:56,269 --> 00:38:03,769

says he/she learn the strange alien

722

00:38:00,410 --> 00:38:06,259

language from that the aliens in the

723

00:38:03,769 --> 00:38:09,049

stories and that language is a nonlinear

724

00:38:06,259 --> 00:38:13,489

language so that she could experience

725

00:38:09,049 --> 00:38:16,279

and that log will also change in her her

726

00:38:13,489 --> 00:38:19,789

mind her like a structure of her feeling

727

00:38:16,279 --> 00:38:23,930

of this world of of space and time which

728

00:38:19,789 --> 00:38:26,479

give her this ability to experience the

729

00:38:23,930 --> 00:38:30,079

past and the future moments at the same

730

00:38:26,479 --> 00:38:34,759

time as a very like a very magical

731

00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:38,329

ability so when I heard the term percise

732

00:38:34,759 --> 00:38:41,569

fiction coming from a job suddenly I had

733

00:38:38,329 --> 00:38:44,479

a very sized fictional feeling that I

734

00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:47,469

was back true about like a three years

735

00:38:44,479 --> 00:38:50,930

ago to the high school when I was

736

00:38:47,469 --> 00:38:53,989

reading the comment on my conversation

737

00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:56,599

notebook from my best friend young she I

738

00:38:53,989 --> 00:38:59,539

thought was my first time to read the

739

00:38:56,599 --> 00:39:04,190

term her science fiction and at the very

740

00:38:59,539 --> 00:39:08,150

same moment I was hearing a song coming

741

00:39:04,190 --> 00:39:11,509

from very near very far future coming

742

00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:13,969

from three years later from from maybe

743

00:39:11,509 --> 00:39:17,299

15 years later from Cape John he said

744

00:39:13,969 --> 00:39:19,999

that here yes I hear you I hear you your

745

00:39:17,299 --> 00:39:20,930

size fiction your part size diction and

746

00:39:19,999 --> 00:39:21,860

appreciate

747

00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:26,560

so the

748

00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:33,290

a very magical moment in my life and

749

00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:36,470

then in 2017 I traveled to Helsinki for

750

00:39:33,290 --> 00:39:40,100

my server calm so that time because that

751

00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:42,530

was healed in our not in the US but in

752

00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:45,980

European countries so the host

753

00:39:42,530 --> 00:39:50,780

tried their best to mixes were calm

754

00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:54,380

became more international so the

755

00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:56,990

organizers say they invited a group of

756

00:39:54,380 --> 00:39:58,520

presenters from different countries

757

00:39:56,990 --> 00:40:01,310

including me

758

00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:06,230

so here are pictures of me presenting

759

00:40:01,310 --> 00:40:09,500

the Hugo Award for pastor semi-frozen as

760

00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:12,560

you can see in the pictures and that

761

00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:16,130

time there's a certain volume of the

762

00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:19,700

three-body problem trilogy I think it's

763

00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:21,460

finally said yes the data that's in so

764

00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:25,310

that's what bottom it was also nominated

765

00:40:21,460 --> 00:40:29,240

for the best new for the past novel of

766

00:40:25,310 --> 00:40:31,820

catechism not Hugo Warner but so that

767

00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:35,120

time havens we have sinky but very

768

00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:38,210

unlucky lai-him lost the Hugo so after

769

00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:41,690

the ceremony he went to the losers party

770

00:40:38,210 --> 00:40:43,580

held by george RR martin so because

771

00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:45,500

every year there was there would be like

772

00:40:43,580 --> 00:40:48,620

a losers party held by john madden for

773

00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:51,590

the losers of hugo world and he drunk a

774

00:40:48,620 --> 00:40:54,140

lot a lot that night he said don't worry

775

00:40:51,590 --> 00:40:57,050

because the trunk as we can as many as

776

00:40:54,140 --> 00:40:59,900

we could because all of this drink will

777

00:40:57,050 --> 00:41:04,370

be just on Marie's death so hope they

778

00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:07,280

talk a lot bus but I think the good

779

00:41:04,370 --> 00:41:10,640

thing is that he already made some

780

00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:14,840

unbelievable achievements which no one

781

00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:18,790

else have ever made before so maybe

782

00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:22,550

that's a pity but he he has he already

783

00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:24,800

succeeded in many ways so the permantly

784

00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:28,310

the crashing the crashing is what's the

785

00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:32,420

next what what you expect after loosing

786

00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:34,790

after the shrimp on a problem for those

787

00:41:32,420 --> 00:41:35,340

Chinese science fiction so under that of

788

00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:39,000

Barry

789

00:41:35,340 --> 00:41:41,760

very challenging crashing and there's no

790

00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:45,180

clear answer right now but what is clear

791

00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:47,520

is that from my point of view from at my

792

00:41:45,180 --> 00:41:50,420

in my opinion I think what what is

793

00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:53,610

crucial is that the younger generation

794

00:41:50,420 --> 00:41:57,210

of science fiction writers in China

795

00:41:53,610 --> 00:42:01,350

including me cannot easily for example

796

00:41:57,210 --> 00:42:04,350

copy losing small copy his way of

797

00:42:01,350 --> 00:42:09,000

writing they have to exploring a variety

798

00:42:04,350 --> 00:42:12,420

of different directions to unfold those

799

00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:15,840

invisible spaces and show all of this

800

00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:18,540

hidden spaces to other reading readers

801

00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:23,360

in our own ways so that's a big

802

00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:23,360

challenge in front of all of us

803

00:42:23,570 --> 00:42:32,030

and in recent years I have been working

804

00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:35,140

on a new project it's kind of like a

805

00:42:32,030 --> 00:42:38,690

fix-up normal entitled Chinese

806

00:42:35,140 --> 00:42:41,330

encyclopedia and it's it should be

807

00:42:38,690 --> 00:42:43,340

because it's not finished and it should

808

00:42:41,330 --> 00:42:47,360

be consisted of a series of short

809

00:42:43,340 --> 00:42:49,970

stories exploring how ordinary people's

810

00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:53,360

lives would be influenced by technology

811

00:42:49,970 --> 00:42:56,300

code development in near future China

812

00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:59,240

and in most cases I would just like to

813

00:42:56,300 --> 00:43:04,460

introduce it as a Chinese version of

814

00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:06,080

black Miller but not that dark so here I

815

00:43:04,460 --> 00:43:08,630

want to explain a bit more about this

816

00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,790

title because this title Chinese is

817

00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:14,390

Chinese is a cube here it's actually

818

00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:17,540

borrowed from an article by our burgers

819

00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:19,970

in that article burgers quotient of

820

00:43:17,540 --> 00:43:22,820

fictional Chinese a fictional Chinese

821

00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:26,780

encyclopedia in which the interest of

822

00:43:22,820 --> 00:43:30,400

for example animals divided are divided

823

00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:34,190

into a very curious way of classes

824

00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:38,150

classification for example a is like a

825

00:43:34,190 --> 00:43:42,530

belonging to the Emperor P is involved

826

00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:47,450

the C is tame the sucking pigs he sirens

827

00:43:42,530 --> 00:43:49,730

F fabulous Jean stray dogs are included

828

00:43:47,450 --> 00:43:53,180

in the present classification so this

829

00:43:49,730 --> 00:43:57,560

kind of kind of like out just like some

830

00:43:53,180 --> 00:44:00,860

nonsense and later Fred photographer

831

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philosopher Michel Foucault's also cited

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this passage in the preface of order of

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things and archaeology of human sizes

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and he used this fictional Chinese is a

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coup period to discuss about the

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difficulty in understanding another

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system of such and I think such

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interpretation just echoes with the he

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destroyed in my own writing in my

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stories of this fix-up novel so the

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existence this title Chinese

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encyclopedia not only literally implies

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a setting

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of all of these stories but also becomes

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a metaphor of the boundary as a mission

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the boundaries between the same and the

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other which encourage in which requires

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over courage or a curiosity and a mercy

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to step across and all of these stories

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just came derive from lastima talk that

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short story so in all of the story you

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can see the same main capture the female

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linguist she travels to different for

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them at different cities in China and

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miss different people mostly ordinary

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people in each story and the so far I

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think just only one of all of the so far

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I finished about like eight stories yes

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I think eight stories in this serious

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and but only one of these stories have

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been published in English entitled cool

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night good night melancholy and that

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story explores depression and AI

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surfaced and turn chest so isn't also

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but it's also a story about like how can

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we or can we not have a good talk with

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the eye and later this year another

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story from the same fiction novel

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entitled is a monk of Lin temple main

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system will be published in the Anna the

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MIT reviews otology intron comments

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tomorrow's lovers family and friends and

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it's also Papa

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translated by canoe so the story will be

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Buddhism and color and atonement in this

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age of technology so please I think this

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book will be will be a forthcoming in

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this September so please if you feel

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interested that just the look forward to

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that so as I said in the very beginning

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science fiction changed me and became a

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way of life of me

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way of a turn as I said in for several

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times as a way of crossing the

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boundaries so as is shown in this to

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charge we can see that which which is a

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I think the best way to elaborate how

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science fiction can be a way of crossing

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the boundaries so on the left you can

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see that is how common overcome our

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common sense function which is it says

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like a there's an invisible boundary

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which just in cycle the all of the

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things we have already known and most of

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time when we registered as a follow all

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of this conditional common sense

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Commission on knowledge to speak to talk

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and to act and these so-called comma

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says says is actually kind of like a

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sheer letter like a the dominant

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ideology shared by the majority of

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people but sometimes sometimes sighs

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diction can be a good way to provide us

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a vision to see something different to

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see beyond this boundary to see

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something beyond this common sense and

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interesting about like a something to

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ask question about like what else to

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think differently what else what else

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will be in somewhere else not here but

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somewhere else and knowledge and this

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kind of question can push us to go

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further to try to explore to to explore

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for like a example portal to get khatoun

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the other words with an other dimensions

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of the unknown words so that's a I think

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what child-sized fiction can the best

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things science fiction can provide us in

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my opinion and if you want to read more

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science fiction from China here's a

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short list of recommendation of course I

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think many of you have already quite

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familiar with the three-body problem

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trilogy by noticing and also we have the

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best hide by a change of fun and the

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other one is the the

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reduction the reduction of time by pound

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shoe so all of this the facts all of the

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facts

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all of these are novels and if you are

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