Iran's unprecedented and massive drone and missile attack last weekend against Israel has prompted grave concerns about a potential Israeli response and the possibility of all-out war. CMED Director, Professor Steven Spiegel meets with Matthew McInnis, senior fellow at the Institute for the Study of War, and Robin Wright, senior fellow at the US Institute of Peace and the Woodrow Wilson Center. Discussion will be followed by audience Q&A.
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this time if you are joining us on the
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not be able to ask a question because
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comments will be uh disabled and so now
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comments will be uh disabled and so now
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I want to uh uh interview uh two people
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I want to uh uh interview uh two people
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who do not really require uh any
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who do not really require uh any
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description so I will be short shorter
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description so I will be short shorter
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than usual uh two America's leading
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than usual uh two America's leading
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figures on these topics I I was amazed
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figures on these topics I I was amazed
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and so excited when they both
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and so excited when they both
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immediately said yes to this session uh
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immediately said yes to this session uh
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which was set up so late and uh given
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which was set up so late and uh given
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the circumstances and I know that two of
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the circumstances and I know that two of
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them have been traveling and moving
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them have been traveling and moving
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around so uh we're really really really
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around so uh we're really really really
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grateful uh miss Robin Wright uh is a
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grateful uh miss Robin Wright uh is a
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senior fellow at the US Institute of
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senior fellow at the US Institute of
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Peace and the woodro Wilson Center uh
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Peace and the woodro Wilson Center uh
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she has reported from more than 140
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she has reported from more than 140
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countries for the New Yorker or the
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countries for the New Yorker or the
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Washington Post Time the uh nyt magazine
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Washington Post Time the uh nyt magazine
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and the LA Times among others she is
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and the LA Times among others she is
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everywhere I'm always ex excited when I
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everywhere I'm always ex excited when I
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see her uh name uh she has uh received
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see her uh name uh she has uh received
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numerous awards for her work including
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numerous awards for her work including
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the UN correspondent Association gold
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the UN correspondent Association gold
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medal for international Affairs the
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medal for international Affairs the
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national magazine award for Iran
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national magazine award for Iran
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reportage and the overseas Press Club
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reportage and the overseas Press Club
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award for her coverage of African wars
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award for her coverage of African wars
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uh and she uh uh uh uh Robin Wright has
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uh and she uh uh uh uh Robin Wright has
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written eight books wow okay our second
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written eight books wow okay our second
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speaker is behind the scenes uh a great
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speaker is behind the scenes uh a great
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deal more uh Matthew mcginness is a
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deal more uh Matthew mcginness is a
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senior fellow at The Institute for the
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senior fellow at The Institute for the
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study of War he previously served as the
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study of War he previously served as the
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deputy special representative for Iran
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deputy special representative for Iran
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and as a member of policy planning at
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and as a member of policy planning at
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the US Department of State he was also a
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the US Department of State he was also a
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resident fellow at American Enterprise
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Institute in foreign events policy after
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serving for 15 years in the Department
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serving for 15 years in the Department
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of Defense as an intelligence officer
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of Defense as an intelligence officer
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and advisor on Middle East China and
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and advisor on Middle East China and
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nonproliferation uh uh uh issues uh and
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nonproliferation uh uh uh issues uh and
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uh we're very excited to have uh both of
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uh we're very excited to have uh both of
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these speak speaker it's now time for
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these speak speaker it's now time for
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the question and answer portion but
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the question and answer portion but
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before that uh the question answer
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before that uh the question answer
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portion is going to come from me that
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portion is going to come from me that
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was our uh Arrangement I'm going to ask
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was our uh Arrangement I'm going to ask
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one question and then we go out to
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one question and then we go out to
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everyone never done this quite as quick
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everyone never done this quite as quick
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as we're doing so again if you want to
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as we're doing so again if you want to
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get on that list this is a good time but
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get on that list this is a good time but
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I'm going to ask our two speakers where
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I'm going to ask our two speakers where
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are we now after these
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are we now after these
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two uh very important developments on
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two uh very important developments on
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the uh Israeli Palestinian front and I
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the uh Israeli Palestinian front and I
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will uh at the end I will uh invite Matt
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will uh at the end I will uh invite Matt
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first so I will ask Robin for first this
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first so I will ask Robin for first this
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time uh thanks so much Steve I'm
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time uh thanks so much Steve I'm
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delighted to be with you and I'm uh
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delighted to be with you and I'm uh
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particularly glad to be with Matt we
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particularly glad to be with Matt we
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always have an interesting back and
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always have an interesting back and
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forth uh so the twin attacks first by
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forth uh so the twin attacks first by
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Israel on an Iranian diplomatic facility
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Israel on an Iranian diplomatic facility
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in Damascus on April 1st followed by the
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in Damascus on April 1st followed by the
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Iranian retaliation stunning retaliation
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Iranian retaliation stunning retaliation
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uh against Israel on April
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uh against Israel on April
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14th um Israel they are contrast and
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14th um Israel they are contrast and
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Israel was extremely effective in
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Israel was extremely effective in
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eliminating three generals who led cobt
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eliminating three generals who led cobt
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operations by Iran in Syria and Lebanon
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operations by Iran in Syria and Lebanon
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uh they leveled a diplomatic facility
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uh they leveled a diplomatic facility
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that abutted the Syrian Embassy the
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that abutted the Syrian Embassy the
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Iranian Embassy in Syria um by contrast
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Iranian Embassy in Syria um by contrast
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the Iranian operation involving you know
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the Iranian operation involving you know
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more than 300 drones and missiles was an
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more than 300 drones and missiles was an
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utter failure the state department
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utter failure the state department
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called it um you know a spectacular
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called it um you know a spectacular
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failure an embarrassing failure the fact
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failure an embarrassing failure the fact
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that that Iran Unleashed so many weapons
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that that Iran Unleashed so many weapons
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and not a single one uh did significant
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and not a single one uh did significant
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damage uh did injure one child from
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damage uh did injure one child from
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shapol though it's not clear um shrapnel
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shapol though it's not clear um shrapnel
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from what but um so we're seeing a real
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from what but um so we're seeing a real
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imbalance I think one of the challenges
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imbalance I think one of the challenges
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is you know what happens next the two
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is you know what happens next the two
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countries have very different strategies
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countries have very different strategies
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Israel is playing the short game it's
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Israel is playing the short game it's
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very good at identifying challenges and
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very good at identifying challenges and
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preempting them either by uh physical
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preempting them either by uh physical
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attack or Cyber attack it has now proven
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attack or Cyber attack it has now proven
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its deterent capability with the help of
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its deterent capability with the help of
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the United States Britain France and
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the United States Britain France and
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Jordan um it has far superior military
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Jordan um it has far superior military
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capabilities um at the same time it's
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capabilities um at the same time it's
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not clear what its long-term strategy is
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not clear what its long-term strategy is
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in terms of what does it want does it
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in terms of what does it want does it
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want to see regime change in Iran does
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want to see regime change in Iran does
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it want to attack or prevent a nuclear
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it want to attack or prevent a nuclear
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facility in the short term is it willing
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facility in the short term is it willing
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to go that far and I worry that on the
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to go that far and I worry that on the
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Israeli side they have short-term goals
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Israeli side they have short-term goals
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and it's the same with Gaza you know
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and it's the same with Gaza you know
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there there's no visible or viable plan
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there there's no visible or viable plan
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to get out of the mess either in Gaza or
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to get out of the mess either in Gaza or
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the tensions with Iran in the meantime
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the tensions with Iran in the meantime
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Iran is playing a longer game it has uh
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Iran is playing a longer game it has uh
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since the revolution it went through an
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since the revolution it went through an
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an initial period of having uh purged
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an initial period of having uh purged
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the military having no capabilities and
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the military having no capabilities and
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having to fight an eight-year war with
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Iraq it has since develop developed an
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Iraq it has since develop developed an
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an extraordinary network of allies in
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an extraordinary network of allies in
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Lebanon Syria Iraq and Yemen it's been
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Lebanon Syria Iraq and Yemen it's been
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very effective in tapping into The
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very effective in tapping into The
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create militias that are non-state
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actors and are threats not just to
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actors and are threats not just to
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Israel but to the kind of strategic
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balance in in the region it's also
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balance in in the region it's also
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worked on its U missile
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worked on its U missile
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Arsenal it has now the largest and most
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Arsenal it has now the largest and most
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diverse missile Arsenal in the Middle
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diverse missile Arsenal in the Middle
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East the only country in the world that
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East the only country in the world that
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has a missile with a range of 200
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has a missile with a range of 200
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kilometers and doesn't also have a
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kilometers and doesn't also have a
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nuclear weapon um at the same time
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nuclear weapon um at the same time
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Iran's goals are totally unrealistic
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Iran's goals are totally unrealistic
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totally ineffective it claims to want to
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totally ineffective it claims to want to
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defeat defeat Israel and force US troops
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defeat defeat Israel and force US troops
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out of the Middle East and neither is
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out of the Middle East and neither is
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going to happen anytime soon in the same
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going to happen anytime soon in the same
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time you have the hardest line
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time you have the hardest line
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governments in both countries in Israel
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since the 1948 Independence and Iran
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1979 Revolution and there's no prospect
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that the political environment will
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that the political environment will
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change even if leaders do anytime soon
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change even if leaders do anytime soon
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so you have this growing tensions
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so you have this growing tensions
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increasingly Hardline governments with
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unrealistic goals in terms of stopping
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unrealistic goals in terms of stopping
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the other one completely and there in
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the other one completely and there in
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uh thank thanks Steve and uh always
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uh thank thanks Steve and uh always
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great to be on here with uh with you and
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great to be on here with uh with you and
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with Robin uh and I have to you know
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with Robin uh and I have to you know
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Echo most of what Robin said I think she
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Echo most of what Robin said I think she
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she captured really the the very unique
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she captured really the the very unique
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uh situation that we have right now uh
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uh situation that we have right now uh
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between Iran and Israel I think you know
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between Iran and Israel I think you know
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certainly from the uh the US perspective
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certainly from the uh the US perspective
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there was uh there was a lot of uh you
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there was uh there was a lot of uh you
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know concern uh as we saw the uh the
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know concern uh as we saw the uh the
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attack coming uh in sat uh Saturday but
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attack coming uh in sat uh Saturday but
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also frankly you know afterwards uh real
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also frankly you know afterwards uh real
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uh you know Pride that we we were able
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uh you know Pride that we we were able
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to prevent uh you know supporting Israel
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to prevent uh you know supporting Israel
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uh with our partners uh being able to
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uh with our partners uh being able to
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prevent you know almost 99% of of the
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prevent you know almost 99% of of the
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attack uh and I think for for us that is
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attack uh and I think for for us that is
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uh something that uh has really struck
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uh something that uh has really struck
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home about the effectiveness of not only
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home about the effectiveness of not only
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you know US military and Israeli milit
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you know US military and Israeli milit
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AR capabilities uh but also the the
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AR capabilities uh but also the the
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importance of of the Partnerships that
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importance of of the Partnerships that
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the US has uh in in the region uh and I
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the US has uh in in the region uh and I
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think that's one of the the biggest
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think that's one of the the biggest
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lessons coming out of it despite all the
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lessons coming out of it despite all the
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pressures on things like the Abraham
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pressures on things like the Abraham
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Accords after October 7th uh that when
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Accords after October 7th uh that when
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uh when the missiles started flying uh
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uh when the missiles started flying uh
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the uh the partners uh in really came
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the uh the partners uh in really came
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together uh in uh in supporting uh their
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together uh in uh in supporting uh their
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Mutual our in many ways our mutual
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Mutual our in many ways our mutual
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defense here in this situation uh and
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defense here in this situation uh and
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and then the other you know main thing
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and then the other you know main thing
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for us is also figuring out what are we
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for us is also figuring out what are we
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getting wrong about uh you know about
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getting wrong about uh you know about
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our assessments of Iranian calculations
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our assessments of Iranian calculations
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because I do think uh there was the the
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because I do think uh there was the the
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scope of the attack was beyond what uh
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scope of the attack was beyond what uh
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what most people anticipated uh so you
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what most people anticipated uh so you
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know we we have to think through what is
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know we we have to think through what is
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the the you know is there a new risk
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the the you know is there a new risk
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calculus uh right now uh in tran uh that
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calculus uh right now uh in tran uh that
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we uh that we don't fully understand uh
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we uh that we don't fully understand uh
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and I think this is one of the areas
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and I think this is one of the areas
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where where you know as much as we were
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where where you know as much as we were
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you know glad about our AB ability to
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you know glad about our AB ability to
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you know support Israel and its defense
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you know support Israel and its defense
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uh at the same time you know we we could
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uh at the same time you know we we could
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have had a really disastrous situation
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have had a really disastrous situation
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on Saturday it could have escalated uh
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on Saturday it could have escalated uh
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quite significantly especially if there
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quite significantly especially if there
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had been uh you know more loss of life
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had been uh you know more loss of life
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uh more damage to more sensitive
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uh more damage to more sensitive
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infrastructure uh so I think that we
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infrastructure uh so I think that we
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were still really on a knife's edge um
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were still really on a knife's edge um
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on Saturday and and that's the concern
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on Saturday and and that's the concern
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as we move forward we know that Israel
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as we move forward we know that Israel
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you know is is making clear that they
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you know is is making clear that they
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will they will almost certainly respond
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will they will almost certainly respond
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uh to this uh and then of course we
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uh to this uh and then of course we
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would you know the anticipation that you
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would you know the anticipation that you
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know Iran has made clear that it would
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know Iran has made clear that it would
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respond uh following uh any other uh
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respond uh following uh any other uh
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Israeli actions uh we the US has made
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Israeli actions uh we the US has made
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clear that we will not support uh uh
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clear that we will not support uh uh
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actual oper you know any counterattacked
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actual oper you know any counterattacked
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operations by the israelies we will
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operations by the israelies we will
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continue to support Israelis Israel's
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continue to support Israelis Israel's
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defense of course uh but I think we're
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defense of course uh but I think we're
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we're at the uh the point where you know
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we're at the uh the point where you know
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are are we miscalculating here have we
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are are we miscalculating here have we
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uh not fully you know ACC assessed uh
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uh not fully you know ACC assessed uh
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you know Iranian decision making the way
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you know Iranian decision making the way
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we should uh is Iran making significant
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we should uh is Iran making significant
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miscalculations um and there's also the
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miscalculations um and there's also the
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the big issue of how this is all shaping
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the big issue of how this is all shaping
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uh the Iranian uh proxy Dynamics within
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uh the Iranian uh proxy Dynamics within
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the axis of resistance uh the the
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the axis of resistance uh the the
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internal pressures that are happening
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internal pressures that are happening
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there uh between the proxies and the and
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there uh between the proxies and the and
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the the leadership in Tyron on uh who's
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the the leadership in Tyron on uh who's
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pushing whom to do what are some of
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pushing whom to do what are some of
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those really interesting questions that
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those really interesting questions that
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uh the last few weeks have raised um and
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uh the last few weeks have raised um and
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with that I will uh pause and look
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with that I will uh pause and look
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forward to the further
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forward to the further
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conversation all right uh thank you both
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conversation all right uh thank you both
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and we are exactly on time to begin our
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and we are exactly on time to begin our
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question I appreciate it now uh uh both
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question I appreciate it now uh uh both
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of you can answer these questions or um
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of you can answer these questions or um
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one of you whichever uh both feel uh
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one of you whichever uh both feel uh
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comfortable I hope at least one will uh
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comfortable I hope at least one will uh
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first we have a good friend who uh the
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first we have a good friend who uh the
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three of us know very well Antonia deu
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three of us know very well Antonia deu
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who is the uh at The Institute for
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who is the uh at The Institute for
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security and defense analyses in Greece
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security and defense analyses in Greece
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and has been working with our program
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and has been working with our program
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over 25 years uh uh I would um uh this
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over 25 years uh uh I would um uh this
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is her question what are the new
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is her question what are the new
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preconditions that the US Administration
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preconditions that the US Administration
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is expected to set for dealing with the
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is expected to set for dealing with the
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Iranian nuclear file after Iran's attack
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Iranian nuclear file after Iran's attack
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on Israel this is about the uh about the
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on Israel this is about the uh about the
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States uh so uh that's interesting uh
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States uh so uh that's interesting uh
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either of you want to go
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either of you want to go
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first I I see Matt writing so I'll uh
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first I I see Matt writing so I'll uh
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I'll weigh in just briefly I mean when
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I'll weigh in just briefly I mean when
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we talk about preconditions we're really
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we talk about preconditions we're really
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at a an impass here the J The Joint uh
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at a an impass here the J The Joint uh
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plan of action jcpoa is now more
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plan of action jcpoa is now more
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abundant it's obsolete the U Iran has
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abundant it's obsolete the U Iran has
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moved so far beyond and so many of the
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moved so far beyond and so many of the
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the steps that were uh outlined in the
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the steps that were uh outlined in the
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deal have been you know have been passed
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deal have been you know have been passed
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I mean the the deadlines have been the
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I mean the the deadlines have been the
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sunset Clauses as they call them uh
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sunset Clauses as they call them uh
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We've passed those and um I think the
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We've passed those and um I think the
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United States really is kind of in a in
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United States really is kind of in a in
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a conundra what does it do about Iran uh
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a conundra what does it do about Iran uh
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it's being it's been very clear
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it's being it's been very clear
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in uh in either condemning or Pro
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in uh in either condemning or Pro
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promising to prevent Iran from getting a
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promising to prevent Iran from getting a
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nuclear capability it's been obvious in
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nuclear capability it's been obvious in
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its support for Israel but the question
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its support for Israel but the question
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is how do you get how do you engage or
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is how do you get how do you engage or
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how do you do
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how do you do
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something
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something
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to ensure that Iran doesn't get a bomb I
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to ensure that Iran doesn't get a bomb I
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you know this is the problem the the
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you know this is the problem the the
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mood in especially in an election year
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mood in especially in an election year
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is the United States is currently not
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is the United States is currently not
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going to take anything and there are two
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going to take anything and there are two
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very different approaches uh between
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very different approaches uh between
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Republicans and Democrats do you take on
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Republicans and Democrats do you take on
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Iran and all the issues we have at at
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Iran and all the issues we have at at
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one time or do you take it on just on
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one time or do you take it on just on
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the nuclear issue hoping that once you
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the nuclear issue hoping that once you
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get the most dangerous element uh for
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get the most dangerous element uh for
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the United States and his allies off the
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the United States and his allies off the
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table that that you can make progress on
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table that that you can make progress on
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the other we've had very different
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the other we've had very different
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approaches um but both Republicans and
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approaches um but both Republicans and
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Democrats agree that the United States
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Democrats agree that the United States
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won't let Iran get the the bomb I don't
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won't let Iran get the the bomb I don't
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know how it does that now uh since
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know how it does that now uh since
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diplomacy is dead and the US certainly
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diplomacy is dead and the US certainly
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doesn't want to get engaged in a
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doesn't want to get engaged in a
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military con fullscale military
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confrontation with Iran that's one of
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confrontation with Iran that's one of
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the reasons we've said Israel um you're
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the reasons we've said Israel um you're
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on your own if you retaliate uh we will
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on your own if you retaliate uh we will
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not be part of it so this is you know
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not be part of it so this is you know
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when we talk about preconditions the one
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when we talk about preconditions the one
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thing the United States has done
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thing the United States has done
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today April 18th is imposed new
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today April 18th is imposed new
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sanctions it has been joined by br WR
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sanctions it has been joined by br WR
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and will be joined by the Europeans in
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and will be joined by the Europeans in
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the next few days the problem is the
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the next few days the problem is the
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Biden Administration has imposed uh more
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Biden Administration has imposed uh more
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than 600 sanctions on individuals and
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than 600 sanctions on individuals and
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entities the Trump Administration
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entities the Trump Administration
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imposed more than 1500 sanctions on
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imposed more than 1500 sanctions on
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individuals and entities including the
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individuals and entities including the
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entire revolutionary guard Corp
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entire revolutionary guard Corp
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something we didn't do to the entire you
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something we didn't do to the entire you
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know the Soviet Army we've you know this
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know the Soviet Army we've you know this
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is a very was a very unique step and yet
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is a very was a very unique step and yet
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it has had
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it has had
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absolutely well you can't say none no
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absolutely well you can't say none no
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impact but it's had limited impact on
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impact but it's had limited impact on
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Iran's capabilities Iran has learned how
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Iran's capabilities Iran has learned how
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to whether it's smug smuggle technology
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to whether it's smug smuggle technology
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or parts to you know and it has a a a
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or parts to you know and it has a a a
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robust defense capability in
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robust defense capability in
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manufacturing its own Weaponry now and
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manufacturing its own Weaponry now and
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so that's the problem what are the
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so that's the problem what are the
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options and unfortunately you know um
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options and unfortunately you know um
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there aren't any that are obvious or are
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there aren't any that are obvious or are
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likely to be successful in the near
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likely to be successful in the near
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future
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Matt yeah I mean what I would uh add is
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Matt yeah I mean what I would uh add is
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that there is you know you know part of
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that there is you know you know part of
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this is because we are in an election
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this is because we are in an election
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year it's going to be very difficult uh
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year it's going to be very difficult uh
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to move forward on really anything so I
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to move forward on really anything so I
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think you know the prospects uh for
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think you know the prospects uh for
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negotiations by the the US
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negotiations by the the US
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Administration um or the Iranians is is
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Administration um or the Iranians is is
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fairly limited uh I the at the same time
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fairly limited uh I the at the same time
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I think that there's you know the
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I think that there's you know the
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beginning uh thoughts about what may be
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beginning uh thoughts about what may be
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done in 2025 live uh whether we have a
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done in 2025 live uh whether we have a
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second Biden term or we have a new Trump
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second Biden term or we have a new Trump
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uh second Trump Administration uh
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uh second Trump Administration uh
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especially given that we're going to
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especially given that we're going to
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have the expiration of the uh of the
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have the expiration of the uh of the
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Snapback uh Clauses in October of 2025
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Snapback uh Clauses in October of 2025
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so there there's a certain window that's
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so there there's a certain window that's
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going to uh occur uh next year that I
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going to uh occur uh next year that I
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think folks need to be uh potentially
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think folks need to be uh potentially
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focused on uh so I think a lot of what's
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focused on uh so I think a lot of what's
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going to happen uh depending on how
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going to happen uh depending on how
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things play out uh you know on the m
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things play out uh you know on the m
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milary side and how things are going to
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milary side and how things are going to
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play out in Gaza how things are going to
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play out in Gaza how things are going to
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play out internally in Iran uh is is
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play out internally in Iran uh is is
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many ways kind of Prelude to what may or
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many ways kind of Prelude to what may or
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may not may may try to happen in 2025
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may not may may try to happen in 2025
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the other thing is you know I you know
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the other thing is you know I you know
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Robin points out rightly you know that
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Robin points out rightly you know that
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our divide that we've had inside US
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our divide that we've had inside US
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policy on whether to you know keep a a
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policy on whether to you know keep a a
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nuke only focus uh for negotiations or
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nuke only focus uh for negotiations or
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tie in some of the regional and and
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tie in some of the regional and and
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missile and and and drone and other
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missile and and and drone and other
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proliferation concerns uh and that's
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proliferation concerns uh and that's
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that's been a debate for for many years
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that's been a debate for for many years
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I think one of the challenges you know
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I think one of the challenges you know
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especially given uh the role that uh
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especially given uh the role that uh
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Iran has played uh not just in these
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Iran has played uh not just in these
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recent attacks uh and in supplying uh
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recent attacks uh and in supplying uh
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you know you know the houthis uh Hamas
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you know you know the houthis uh Hamas
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hisbah Etc with missiles and drones but
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hisbah Etc with missiles and drones but
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also what they've been doing with Russia
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also what they've been doing with Russia
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over the last couple of years um has
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over the last couple of years um has
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kind of changed the equation for the
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kind of changed the equation for the
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ability to really separate these uh
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ability to really separate these uh
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especially the proliferation the
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especially the proliferation the
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conventional proliferation concerns from
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conventional proliferation concerns from
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the nuclear uh file uh and I think
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the nuclear uh file uh and I think
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certainly many of our European Partners
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certainly many of our European Partners
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uh you know from what they've seen of of
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uh you know from what they've seen of of
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Iran's role in the Ukraine War uh it's
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Iran's role in the Ukraine War uh it's
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just made it very difficult to to think
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just made it very difficult to to think
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about how do you separate these issues
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about how do you separate these issues
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now um and not saying they couldn't be
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now um and not saying they couldn't be
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but I I think that there is a a broader
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but I I think that there is a a broader
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perception that the uh it's it's
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perception that the uh it's it's
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increasingly difficult to
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increasingly difficult to
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disentangle uh the regional
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disentangle uh the regional
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proliferation uh conventional
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proliferation uh conventional
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proliferation concerns and the nuclear
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proliferation concerns and the nuclear
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uh file uh so I think that's one of the
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uh file uh so I think that's one of the
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things that is is still really uh a
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things that is is still really uh a
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major challenge for whoever uh is in
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major challenge for whoever uh is in
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power in
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power in
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2025 can I add what something real
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2025 can I add what something real
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quickly because I think Matt a really
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quickly because I think Matt a really
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important Point um one first of all just
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important Point um one first of all just
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to Define Snapback sanctions this is
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to Define Snapback sanctions this is
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something that if one of the parties one
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something that if one of the parties one
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of the six major parties to the deal um
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of the six major parties to the deal um
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invokes sanctions that the other five
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invokes sanctions that the other five
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have to as well and that's really
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have to as well and that's really
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important the ability uh of the world to
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important the ability uh of the world to
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to you know under terms they had agreed
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to you know under terms they had agreed
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to before all act in concert now that
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to before all act in concert now that
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plays into something else Matt said
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plays into something else Matt said
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which is really important and that's the
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which is really important and that's the
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global divide in between 2013 and 2015
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global divide in between 2013 and 2015
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you saw the world's six major Powers
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you saw the world's six major Powers
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agree on something even as Russia was
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agree on something even as Russia was
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invading Crimea Russia or China um
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invading Crimea Russia or China um
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Britain France Germany and the United
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Britain France Germany and the United
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States negot NE iated tortured tortured
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States negot NE iated tortured tortured
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negotiations sometimes to come up with I
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negotiations sometimes to come up with I
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think it was 159 pages of terms and
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think it was 159 pages of terms and
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today you see a very different global
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today you see a very different global
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environment where China and Russia are
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environment where China and Russia are
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siding with Iran they did at the special
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siding with Iran they did at the special
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un session at the security Council on
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un session at the security Council on
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Sunday uh they're blaming Israel for
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Sunday uh they're blaming Israel for
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starting this kind of it's more than a
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starting this kind of it's more than a
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tit fortat but this series of escalatory
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tit fortat but this series of escalatory
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steps and the idea that you'd have this
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steps and the idea that you'd have this
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the world's six major power ever speak
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the world's six major power ever speak
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together again at least anytime soon is
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together again at least anytime soon is
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you know just not going to
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you know just not going to
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happen such an important Point um well
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happen such an important Point um well
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uh we have a lot of questions coming in
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uh we have a lot of questions coming in
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as expected but I'm going to keep for a
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as expected but I'm going to keep for a
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little while uh the Iranian questions
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little while uh the Iranian questions
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that are coming in and next is uh
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that are coming in and next is uh
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Professor Joyce glanced at UCLA and the
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Professor Joyce glanced at UCLA and the
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question is uh although I understand
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question is uh although I understand
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that Iran's political structure must be
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that Iran's political structure must be
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eradicated how do we protect the good
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eradicated how do we protect the good
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population of Iran who hate their
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population of Iran who hate their
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governments I'm happy to jump in I often
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governments I'm happy to jump in I often
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I also wanted to defer to Matt any on
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I also wanted to defer to Matt any on
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any issue um look one of the great
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any issue um look one of the great
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challenges
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challenges
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is is dealing with Iran not just its
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is is dealing with Iran not just its
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leadership how do we try to factor in
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leadership how do we try to factor in
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the entire population the rule of of
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the entire population the rule of of
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thumb in political science is that a
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thumb in political science is that a
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dictator an auto autocrat an
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dictator an auto autocrat an
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authoritarian needs 30% of the
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authoritarian needs 30% of the
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population to back it um to man the
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population to back it um to man the
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security forces to pay at least
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security forces to pay at least
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partially taxes um and to run the
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partially taxes um and to run the
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bureaucracy uh I've thought for a number
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bureaucracy uh I've thought for a number
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of years that Iran was hovering on the
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of years that Iran was hovering on the
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cusp of that 30% I think it may be a
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cusp of that 30% I think it may be a
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little bit less now the reality is that
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little bit less now the reality is that
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the
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inspiring demonstrations we saw in
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inspiring demonstrations we saw in
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2022 uh over the issue of hijab personal
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2022 uh over the issue of hijab personal
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freedoms and event and eventually you
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freedoms and event and eventually you
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know challenges to the the regime itself
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know challenges to the the regime itself
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uh didn't have the kind of network
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uh didn't have the kind of network
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resources
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platform um you know game plan they knew
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platform um you know game plan they knew
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what they were against and now what they
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what they were against and now what they
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were for this is an evolutionary process
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were for this is an evolutionary process
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and the danger is that if outside Powers
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and the danger is that if outside Powers
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try to go in and dictate you know know
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try to go in and dictate you know know
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who should be in power or facilitate
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who should be in power or facilitate
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regime change that we're back in that
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regime change that we're back in that
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cycle that we were in after
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cycle that we were in after
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1953 when the US and Britain helped
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1953 when the US and Britain helped
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orchestrate a coup against a
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orchestrate a coup against a
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democratically elected government so
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democratically elected government so
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this is the conundrum uh diplomatically
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this is the conundrum uh diplomatically
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in terms of policy going forward uh I I
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in terms of policy going forward uh I I
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have a new piece in the New Yorker today
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have a new piece in the New Yorker today
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about a a wonderful film about a single
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about a a wonderful film about a single
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act of descent it's a it's a short
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act of descent it's a it's a short
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called the smallest power and about one
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called the smallest power and about one
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woman who did one a thing during those
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woman who did one a thing during those
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protests and how it changed her view
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protests and how it changed her view
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before she had wanted to leave Iran she
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before she had wanted to leave Iran she
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learned she had a medical degree she
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learned she had a medical degree she
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learned to speak English fluently but
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learned to speak English fluently but
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after the protest in which she carried
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after the protest in which she carried
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out one small act she decided she didn't
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out one small act she decided she didn't
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want to leave that she wanted to fight
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want to leave that she wanted to fight
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for her country and it's how do we do
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for her country and it's how do we do
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things that don't dictate but help
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things that don't dictate but help
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nurture without getting involved the
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nurture without getting involved the
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population so they can decide what their
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population so they can decide what their
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own future
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own future
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is um Matt do you want to get in on this
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is um Matt do you want to get in on this
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or should we move on whatever you say uh
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or should we move on whatever you say uh
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no I I think Robin makes some great
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no I I think Robin makes some great
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points there I think we have uh we we
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points there I think we have uh we we
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have focused uh so much on how to
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have focused uh so much on how to
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support the Iranian people and we're not
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support the Iranian people and we're not
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always to be frank know exactly what we
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always to be frank know exactly what we
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need to do uh obviously we have many
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need to do uh obviously we have many
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efforts uh ongoing quickly out of the
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efforts uh ongoing quickly out of the
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state department uh to support Civil
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state department uh to support Civil
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Society uh and uh and and and support
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Society uh and uh and and and support
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the Irani people you know free you know
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the Irani people you know free you know
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getting around uh internet blockages Etc
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getting around uh internet blockages Etc
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that there's all sorts of ways that we
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that there's all sorts of ways that we
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can help the Iranian people frankly be
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can help the Iranian people frankly be
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able to make uh their own choices and be
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able to make uh their own choices and be
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able to have their own their voices
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able to have their own their voices
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heard and and and be able to pressure
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heard and and and be able to pressure
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the the leadership from within uh but at
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the the leadership from within uh but at
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the same time you know this is something
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the same time you know this is something
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that really needs to come from the
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that really needs to come from the
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Iranian people uh and you know we need
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Iranian people uh and you know we need
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to show our our support and solidarity
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to show our our support and solidarity
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uh but it is very challenging to to
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uh but it is very challenging to to
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Think Through uh more radical options
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Think Through uh more radical options
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otherwise so I'll leave it at
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otherwise so I'll leave it at
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that well uh we're gonna have another uh
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that well uh we're gonna have another uh
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another Aran question uh and then move
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another Aran question uh and then move
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on to some other issues that people are
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on to some other issues that people are
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uh bringing uh to uh the discussion but
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uh bringing uh to uh the discussion but
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uh Professor Alin also of UCLA uh ask
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uh Professor Alin also of UCLA uh ask
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the following uh I wouldn't want to be
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the following uh I wouldn't want to be
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having to ask answer this look into your
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having to ask answer this look into your
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Crystal all one year from now will Iran
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Crystal all one year from now will Iran
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be the main focus of our foreign policy
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be the main focus of our foreign policy
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in the Middle East and not the war in
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in the Middle East and not the war in
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Gaza no it's an interesting question
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Gaza no it's an interesting question
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because uh you know obviously that could
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because uh you know obviously that could
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be very uh could be very different
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be very uh could be very different
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depending on who is elected in November
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depending on who is elected in November
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uh even though I think frankly uh either
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uh even though I think frankly uh either
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Biden uh or Trump uh are going to have
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Biden uh or Trump uh are going to have
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an approach where they they do not want
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an approach where they they do not want
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major expansion of of conflict in the
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major expansion of of conflict in the
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region uh so that that that pull away
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region uh so that that that pull away
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from the Middle East which for better
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from the Middle East which for better
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for worse has been uh President Biden's
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for worse has been uh President Biden's
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approach I think that there is you know
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approach I think that there is you know
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you know very fair criticism that a
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you know very fair criticism that a
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little too much neglect or desire to
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little too much neglect or desire to
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pull away uh at the same time I I think
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pull away uh at the same time I I think
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a president Trump uh is is certainly
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a president Trump uh is is certainly
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going to want to to move quickly to kind
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going to want to to move quickly to kind
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of I I don't say calm down or or try to
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of I I don't say calm down or or try to
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fix the the situation uh but I I also
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fix the the situation uh but I I also
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really doubt that that he's going to
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really doubt that that he's going to
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want major escalations uh you know in
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want major escalations uh you know in
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the region uh immediately uh so I think
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the region uh immediately uh so I think
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that that you know this time of you know
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that that you know this time of you know
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this time next year we're going to be in
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this time next year we're going to be in
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a state of of flux on our policy uh in
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a state of of flux on our policy uh in
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in trying to figure out what's the next
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in trying to figure out what's the next
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steps for either Biden to or for Trump
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steps for either Biden to or for Trump
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to uh but I I think that the uh my
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to uh but I I think that the uh my
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expectation is that the Gaza situation
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expectation is that the Gaza situation
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will likely have have died down uh by
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will likely have have died down uh by
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then uh and I think that that it's more
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then uh and I think that that it's more
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likely we are going to have a greater
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likely we are going to have a greater
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focus on Iran at that
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focus on Iran at that
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point
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point
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relatively I would have said the
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relatively I would have said the
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same so I'd probably take a slightly
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same so I'd probably take a slightly
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different Tech I don't think that Hamas
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different Tech I don't think that Hamas
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is going to disappear even if its
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is going to disappear even if its
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leadership is decapitated its Arsenal
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leadership is decapitated its Arsenal
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destroyed that this is an idea and one
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destroyed that this is an idea and one
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of the things that's been
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of the things that's been
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striking is that there are many people
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striking is that there are many people
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across the
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across the
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region I've found anyway who disapprove
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region I've found anyway who disapprove
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of hamas's tactics don't like its
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of hamas's tactics don't like its
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ideology but see it as the only force
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ideology but see it as the only force
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that is acting on behalf of the
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that is acting on behalf of the
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Palestinians they see it as the
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Palestinians they see it as the
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resistance uh even if we in the outside
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resistance uh even if we in the outside
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world look at it very differently and
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world look at it very differently and
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and I think with the destruction that's
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and I think with the destruction that's
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happened in Gaza um that the focus will
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happened in Gaza um that the focus will
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be on either rebuilding building or you
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be on either rebuilding building or you
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know finding a solution the problem is
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know finding a solution the problem is
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you know all the ideas that the United
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you know all the ideas that the United
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States has put forward about who rules
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States has put forward about who rules
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in Gaza after a war uh who's in charge
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in Gaza after a war uh who's in charge
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of of security all these questions don't
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of of security all these questions don't
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have
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have
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takers uh or don't have buyin from
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takers uh or don't have buyin from
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either side and so there's a danger that
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either side and so there's a danger that
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that this fers on in a way and it's
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that this fers on in a way and it's
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obviously related to whe it's what the
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obviously related to whe it's what the
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houthis are doing in the Red Sea and
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houthis are doing in the Red Sea and
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disrupting International Trade what
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disrupting International Trade what
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hisbah is doing on the border what uh
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hisbah is doing on the border what uh
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the groups in Iraq and Syria have done
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the groups in Iraq and Syria have done
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all of them say they will not stop until
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all of them say they will not stop until
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the end of the war in Gaza and so in
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the end of the war in Gaza and so in
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many ways both what happens in Gaza and
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many ways both what happens in Gaza and
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happens in Iran are absolutely related
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happens in Iran are absolutely related
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and I think Matt made an important point
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and I think Matt made an important point
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we're going to be in flux whoever uh is
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we're going to be in flux whoever uh is
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in power a year from now because
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in power a year from now because
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remember uh after the inauguration it
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remember uh after the inauguration it
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takes months to get officials confirmed
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takes months to get officials confirmed
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there's likely to be changes in senior
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there's likely to be changes in senior
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positions in the second term
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positions in the second term
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of either man and so the idea that we
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of either man and so the idea that we
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can push forward simply after an
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can push forward simply after an
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inauguration is an illusion uh this is
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inauguration is an illusion uh this is
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going to be I think a
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going to be I think a
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complicated issue now the one of the big
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complicated issue now the one of the big
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questions is what is it going to take
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questions is what is it going to take
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for the main focus of the United States
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for the main focus of the United States
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to shift you know does chy to do
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to shift you know does chy to do
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something on Taiwan um do we see some
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something on Taiwan um do we see some
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turning point in the war in Ukraine um
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turning point in the war in Ukraine um
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or Beyond uh and so there are ways that
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or Beyond uh and so there are ways that
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other factors because they are become
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other factors because they are become
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more dynamic or more immediate overtake
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more dynamic or more immediate overtake
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it but I think the idea that we're going
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it but I think the idea that we're going
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to solve either problem in Gaza or Iran
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to solve either problem in Gaza or Iran
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um within the next year in a way that
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um within the next year in a way that
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satisfies all that uh calms down and re
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satisfies all that uh calms down and re
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stabilizes well it's never been stable
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stabilizes well it's never been stable
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but stabilizes the situation in the
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but stabilizes the situation in the
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Middle East I don't see it but I want to
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Middle East I don't see it but I want to
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tell you I really really hope I'm wrong
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tell you I really really hope I'm wrong
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well that's interesting ending
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well that's interesting ending
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um but we did hear two different
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um but we did hear two different
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versions which is so helpful uh uh to
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versions which is so helpful uh uh to
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all of us uh now we're going to step a
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all of us uh now we're going to step a
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little bit away from where we've been
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little bit away from where we've been
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but not from UCA uh Warren funy who's a
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but not from UCA uh Warren funy who's a
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uh major figure in our Institute I uh
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uh major figure in our Institute I uh
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he's got a question and it goes like
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he's got a question and it goes like
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this in light of recent events do you
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this in light of recent events do you
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feel there is a strong chance that both
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feel there is a strong chance that both
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Jordan and Egypt who both have
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Jordan and Egypt who both have
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long-standing treaties with Israel could
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long-standing treaties with Israel could
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face protests that reach the level of
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face protests that reach the level of
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the 2010 2011 Arab Spring protests if
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the 2010 2011 Arab Spring protests if
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they reach this level what are the
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they reach this level what are the
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chances that one or both countries
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chances that one or both countries
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revoke their treaties with Israel given
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revoke their treaties with Israel given
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that in both countries the treaties are
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that in both countries the treaties are
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unpopular with the general
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unpopular with the general
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population I can uh take it uh yeah I
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population I can uh take it uh yeah I
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think the uh there obviously is great
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think the uh there obviously is great
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concern uh on the Jordanian side right
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concern uh on the Jordanian side right
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now uh I mean Egypt has you know ever
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now uh I mean Egypt has you know ever
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since October 7th the the concerns that
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since October 7th the the concerns that
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Egypt may feel or feel it has to be
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Egypt may feel or feel it has to be
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forced to re-evaluate uh its treaty with
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forced to re-evaluate uh its treaty with
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Israel I think that's been a steady
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Israel I think that's been a steady
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thing but I I think the events of this
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thing but I I think the events of this
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past weekend um are putting very
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past weekend um are putting very
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significant pressure uh on Jordan uh and
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significant pressure uh on Jordan uh and
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uh and the uh and the pressure from you
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uh and the uh and the pressure from you
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know the domestic population of which as
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know the domestic population of which as
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most of you know a large portion of that
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most of you know a large portion of that
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is Palestinian so that is certainly a
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is Palestinian so that is certainly a
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concern of the you know that I think the
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concern of the you know that I think the
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US Administration has uh I don't think
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US Administration has uh I don't think
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you're going to hit a point where either
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you're going to hit a point where either
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side uh is going to want to abgate or
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side uh is going to want to abgate or
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pull out of their respective treaties
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pull out of their respective treaties
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with Israel I think that would be a
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with Israel I think that would be a
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pretty extreme situation for either of
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pretty extreme situation for either of
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them but I do think that they both risk
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them but I do think that they both risk
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um pretty uh pretty significant uh
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um pretty uh pretty significant uh
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domestic stability uh if this situation
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domestic stability uh if this situation
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as as Robin was describing in the last
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as as Robin was describing in the last
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question uh you know that that we have
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question uh you know that that we have
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this ongoing uh fight in uh you know
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this ongoing uh fight in uh you know
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even if we ended quote unquote major you
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even if we ended quote unquote major you
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know combat operations or uh or whatever
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know combat operations or uh or whatever
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inside Gaza that there's going to be
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inside Gaza that there's going to be
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longstanding um you know continued
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longstanding um you know continued
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military counterterrorism
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military counterterrorism
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counterinsurgency rebuilding uh
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counterinsurgency rebuilding uh
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political infighting you
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political infighting you
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know a situation that and of course a
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know a situation that and of course a
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humanitarian situation that will s
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humanitarian situation that will s
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continue all these things could be going
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continue all these things could be going
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on uh for for an indefinite amount of
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on uh for for an indefinite amount of
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time uh and so I that that for me is is
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time uh and so I that that for me is is
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I'm worried about the domestic I'm not
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I'm worried about the domestic I'm not
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as worried ultimately about the Treaty
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as worried ultimately about the Treaty
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pressures so I agree with Matt uh but I
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pressures so I agree with Matt uh but I
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do think I mean remember 2010 2011 were
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do think I mean remember 2010 2011 were
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against uh autocratic leaders and it's
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against uh autocratic leaders and it's
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now harder particularly in Egypt to
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now harder particularly in Egypt to
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protest because people whether it's in
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protest because people whether it's in
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Independent Media or quazi Independent
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Independent Media or quazi Independent
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Media um protesters dissident a lot of
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Media um protesters dissident a lot of
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them have been locked up silenced
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them have been locked up silenced
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harassed intimidated uh we're in a very
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harassed intimidated uh we're in a very
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different kind of world uh in in the
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different kind of world uh in in the
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aftermath of the apring for the same
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aftermath of the apring for the same
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reason that the Iranians protests in
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reason that the Iranians protests in
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2022 didn't work because again these
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2022 didn't work because again these
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were predominantly young people without
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were predominantly young people without
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a platform without the resources without
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a platform without the resources without
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the network without the you know they
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the network without the you know they
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didn't have parties they didn't know
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didn't have parties they didn't know
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they knew what they were against and not
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they knew what they were against and not
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what they were for I don't see that
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what they were for I don't see that
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happening soon but I think there are
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happening soon but I think there are
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other factors that are going to lead to
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other factors that are going to lead to
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destabilization and challenge
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destabilization and challenge
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governments and I think what's happening
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governments and I think what's happening
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in the West Bank we can't forget that
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in the West Bank we can't forget that
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the number of people who've been killed
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the number of people who've been killed
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in Israeli raids the number of people
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in Israeli raids the number of people
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who've been arrested the the settler
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who've been arrested the the settler
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violence that has uh escalated tensions
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violence that has uh escalated tensions
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in the region uh this is you know this
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in the region uh this is you know this
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is adding to the
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is adding to the
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challenges uh both of the moment and of
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challenges uh both of the moment and of
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the future and I you know um speaking of
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the future and I you know um speaking of
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Aging leadership mmud Abbas is what 86
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Aging leadership mmud Abbas is what 86
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87 um that's been in power two decades
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87 um that's been in power two decades
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and hasn't allowed an
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and hasn't allowed an
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election um to take place and so there
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election um to take place and so there
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are other things that will inflame I
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are other things that will inflame I
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think the the Arab populations and the
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think the the Arab populations and the
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question is how far they willing to go
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question is how far they willing to go
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um uh to make their voices heard and so
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um uh to make their voices heard and so
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I think again and when we we we can tend
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I think again and when we we we can tend
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to be kind of siloed in this problem
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to be kind of siloed in this problem
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Gaza and then this problem Iran but that
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Gaza and then this problem Iran but that
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there is a potential for wider just one
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there is a potential for wider just one
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thing quickly to add and that is that
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thing quickly to add and that is that
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you see Arab governments taking sides uh
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you see Arab governments taking sides uh
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Jordan participated there are reports
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Jordan participated there are reports
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that there are other Arab countries who
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that there are other Arab countries who
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may have engaged but didn't want their
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may have engaged but didn't want their
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names out there to reflect their role in
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names out there to reflect their role in
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um deflecting uh Iran's attack so that's
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um deflecting uh Iran's attack so that's
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an interesting Dynamic too and how far
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an interesting Dynamic too and how far
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does that
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does that
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go that's a very interesting uh point
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go that's a very interesting uh point
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and I think myself that that we don't
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and I think myself that that we don't
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know all the all the countries but I'll
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know all the all the countries but I'll
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leave at that and now we're going to go
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leave at that and now we're going to go
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to a very interesting uh question from M
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to a very interesting uh question from M
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abua from who is from Gaza
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abua from who is from Gaza
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although uh was able to get out of it
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although uh was able to get out of it
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for the at the present time uh a very uh
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for the at the present time uh a very uh
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complex story anyway Dr Robin just
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complex story anyway Dr Robin just
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indicated the US policy and sanctions
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indicated the US policy and sanctions
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have limited impact on
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have limited impact on
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Iran the question is what policy should
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Iran the question is what policy should
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the US adopt to put more pressure on
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the US adopt to put more pressure on
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Iran or do you think that it's about
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Iran or do you think that it's about
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time to switch gears toward Iran before
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time to switch gears toward Iran before
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the whole middle east region is on fire
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the whole middle east region is on fire
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you should be first on this since you're
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you should be first on this since you're
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mentioned here Robin if your game well I
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mentioned here Robin if your game well I
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kind of answered that before and that is
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kind of answered that before and that is
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you know the US has limited options here
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you know the US has limited options here
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we have two ba basic toolkits in uh our
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we have two ba basic toolkits in uh our
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Arsenal diplom or our military and
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Arsenal diplom or our military and
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diplomatic Arsenal uh one is sanctions
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diplomatic Arsenal uh one is sanctions
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and which we've used extensively and and
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and which we've used extensively and and
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to limited impact and the other is
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to limited impact and the other is
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military um and we have been willing to
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military um and we have been willing to
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to go only so far with the military
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to go only so far with the military
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option I don't think we're willing
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option I don't think we're willing
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anytime in the near future to go much
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anytime in the near future to go much
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further and that's what the conundrum is
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further and that's what the conundrum is
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for for Washington uh how do you have
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for for Washington uh how do you have
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influence remember the United States
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influence remember the United States
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can't do things alone that have the kind
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can't do things alone that have the kind
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of sweeping attack on Iran in uh from
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of sweeping attack on Iran in uh from
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2003 to 2006 I think it was or 2010 to
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2003 to 2006 I think it was or 2010 to
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2013 we we we engaged in a number of
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2013 we we we engaged in a number of
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sanctions but we did it with the
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sanctions but we did it with the
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International Community through the
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International Community through the
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United Nations and that then ultimately
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United Nations and that then ultimately
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played a major role in getting Iran to
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played a major role in getting Iran to
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the negotiating table in 2013
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the negotiating table in 2013
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uh today we have been predominantly
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uh today we have been predominantly
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alone for years we've been predominantly
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alone for years we've been predominantly
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alone now you see Britain signing on to
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alone now you see Britain signing on to
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some the Europeans perhaps next week but
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some the Europeans perhaps next week but
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are they going to be the kind of big
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are they going to be the kind of big
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things that will make Iran rethink its
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things that will make Iran rethink its
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strategy particularly when it believes
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strategy particularly when it believes
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that it's under Fire that there are
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that it's under Fire that there are
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existential threats to the regime when
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existential threats to the regime when
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it faces a political turning point and
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it faces a political turning point and
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so I wish there were a simple answer I
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so I wish there were a simple answer I
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think the United States you know has
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think the United States you know has
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tried to say Israel use restraint take
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tried to say Israel use restraint take
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this as a win you know let's stop but
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this as a win you know let's stop but
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Israel feels differently and under prime
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Israel feels differently and under prime
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minister Netanyahu Israel has um taken a
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minister Netanyahu Israel has um taken a
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much tougher
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much tougher
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course uh
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course uh
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Matt yeah I I think you know again
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Matt yeah I I think you know again
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sanctions sanctions work to a point when
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sanctions sanctions work to a point when
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there is a there's a policy objective
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there is a there's a policy objective
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tied to it and that there are uh clear
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tied to it and that there are uh clear
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there there there I don't sayur is not
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there there there I don't sayur is not
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the right word there understanding that
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the right word there understanding that
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uh you know sanctions will be relieved
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uh you know sanctions will be relieved
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uh if certain policy changes are made uh
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uh if certain policy changes are made uh
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and I think that you know the challenge
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and I think that you know the challenge
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in as someone obviously that was very
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in as someone obviously that was very
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much involved in the maximum pressure
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much involved in the maximum pressure
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campaign in the last Administration you
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campaign in the last Administration you
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know I I try to remind uh folks that it
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know I I try to remind uh folks that it
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it is a the the purpose of the sanctions
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it is a the the purpose of the sanctions
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in in reality was you know was to get
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in in reality was you know was to get
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Iran to the point of wanting to
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Iran to the point of wanting to
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negotiate again uh for a new deal which
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negotiate again uh for a new deal which
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is what president Trump wanted uh and I
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is what president Trump wanted uh and I
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think you know there was obviously some
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think you know there was obviously some
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internal debates over over the years
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internal debates over over the years
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about you know how how much pressure is
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about you know how how much pressure is
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needed in order to get the right amount
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needed in order to get the right amount
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of Leverage to get the right position
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of Leverage to get the right position
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for the right types of
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for the right types of
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negotiations um and I think you know
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negotiations um and I think you know
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when you when you look at that like the
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when you when you look at that like the
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same thing with the sanctions regime
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same thing with the sanctions regime
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that uh that was established beginning
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that uh that was established beginning
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uh in the George W bush years and
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uh in the George W bush years and
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certainly expanded uh during President
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certainly expanded uh during President
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Obama's term as Rob was discussing with
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Obama's term as Rob was discussing with
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with uh Partners allies the rest of the
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with uh Partners allies the rest of the
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the
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the
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UNSC uh that you know you know you need
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UNSC uh that you know you know you need
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that kind of pressure as part of of of
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that kind of pressure as part of of of
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but it can't be the only thing it needs
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but it can't be the only thing it needs
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to be part of you know diplomatic
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to be part of you know diplomatic
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efforts that are uh oriented towards you
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efforts that are uh oriented towards you
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know isolating or pressuring or
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know isolating or pressuring or
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encouraging um Iran to take certain
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encouraging um Iran to take certain
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policy steps as well as frankly to you
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policy steps as well as frankly to you
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know demonstrate that that there's going
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know demonstrate that that there's going
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to be uh you know potential military
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to be uh you know potential military
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consequences uh at the the far end of
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consequences uh at the the far end of
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this that if there is you know if Ty
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this that if there is you know if Ty
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we're talking about the nuclear program
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we're talking about the nuclear program
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and the moves towards a nuclear weapon
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and the moves towards a nuclear weapon
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uh if we see that we're committed to uh
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uh if we see that we're committed to uh
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you know preventing that that's
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you know preventing that that's
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something that's been our policy uh you
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something that's been our policy uh you
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know certainly the the British and the
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know certainly the the British and the
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French's policy for a long time the
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French's policy for a long time the
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Israeli policy uh so you know we we have
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Israeli policy uh so you know we we have
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to be able to use the Diplomatic the
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to be able to use the Diplomatic the
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economic and the military uh and and
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economic and the military uh and and
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find the right way uh to uh to pressure
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find the right way uh to uh to pressure
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as well as encourage uh and that's
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as well as encourage uh and that's
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that's a real challenge to do and I
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that's a real challenge to do and I
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think right now you know given uh all
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think right now you know given uh all
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the the success and failures we've had
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the the success and failures we've had
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over the past you know 20 you know 15 10
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over the past you know 20 you know 15 10
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10 15 20 years uh I think that you know
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10 15 20 years uh I think that you know
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for us right now we are in a stage of of
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for us right now we are in a stage of of
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uh frankly trying to contain the issue
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uh frankly trying to contain the issue
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uh as much as possible uh and uh and and
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uh as much as possible uh and uh and and
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basic and try to encourage the region
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basic and try to encourage the region
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itself to you know further integrate
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itself to you know further integrate
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further cooperate uh and as you know
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further cooperate uh and as you know
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maybe we're never going to get to
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maybe we're never going to get to
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Collective Security but I think the more
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Collective Security but I think the more
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that that is shown as we've seen this
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that that is shown as we've seen this
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past weekend that the the region is not
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past weekend that the the region is not
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you know is not going to find Iran's uh
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you know is not going to find Iran's uh
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military activities and Military
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military activities and Military
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pressure uh acceptable I think that's
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pressure uh acceptable I think that's
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going to help uh you know I think push
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going to help uh you know I think push
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Iran to to rethink a bit about how it's
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Iran to to rethink a bit about how it's
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been postured regionally which I think
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been postured regionally which I think
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is is is a First Step at least on that
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is is is a First Step at least on that
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on that part of the pathway
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on that part of the pathway
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well we have a very interesting question
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well we have a very interesting question
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from Sari of the University of uh
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from Sari of the University of uh
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College London and she was for several
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College London and she was for several
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years uh uh assistance for us uh at Co
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years uh uh assistance for us uh at Co
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assuming Iran knows the strength of the
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assuming Iran knows the strength of the
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Iran Dome did they really expect the
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Iran Dome did they really expect the
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missiles to cause mass destruction in
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missiles to cause mass destruction in
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Israel or were there other intentions
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Israel or were there other intentions
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can we believe Iranian officials when
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can we believe Iranian officials when
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they say they don't intend to to
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they say they don't intend to to
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this yeah I I can take uh the first stab
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this yeah I I can take uh the first stab
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of that I think it's it's you know it's
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of that I think it's it's you know it's
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interesting we of course the Iranians
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interesting we of course the Iranians
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have been trying to understand and the
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have been trying to understand and the
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the Iron Dome as well as David sling and
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the Iron Dome as well as David sling and
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the and the rest of the uh the
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the and the rest of the uh the
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integrated air and missile defense
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integrated air and missile defense
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capacity that Israel has you know they
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capacity that Israel has you know they
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they've been studying it for a long time
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they've been studying it for a long time
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uh and so it's an it's a very intriguing
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uh and so it's an it's a very intriguing
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question of why uh did they did they
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question of why uh did they did they
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under estimate uh the the strength of
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under estimate uh the the strength of
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that and certainly so much of what we've
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that and certainly so much of what we've
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seen over the years from Iranian
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seen over the years from Iranian
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exercises what we we think we know about
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exercises what we we think we know about
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their Doctrine you know certainly in
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their Doctrine you know certainly in
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what they've been working with hisbah
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what they've been working with hisbah
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and more recently the houthis and others
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and more recently the houthis and others
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you know is this saturation idea of how
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you know is this saturation idea of how
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do you uh overload uh the iron system uh
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do you uh overload uh the iron system uh
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to the point where you know it just it
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to the point where you know it just it
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can't uh it can't handle repeated salvos
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can't uh it can't handle repeated salvos
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of of of these types of uh munitions and
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of of of these types of uh munitions and
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I think that the the Iranians were ex my
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I think that the the Iranians were ex my
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guess is that they were expecting to
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guess is that they were expecting to
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have much more penetration uh in fact
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have much more penetration uh in fact
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one of the things that you know we're um
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one of the things that you know we're um
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looking at my my home institution at at
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looking at my my home institution at at
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at Institute for study of war is looking
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at Institute for study of war is looking
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at what the kind of the learning that
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at what the kind of the learning that
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may be going on uh you know between
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may be going on uh you know between
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Russia and Iran in the Ukraine theater
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Russia and Iran in the Ukraine theater
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uh and uh and really try to understand
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uh and uh and really try to understand
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you know our you know the kind of rates
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you know our you know the kind of rates
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of penetration that the Shahed and and
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of penetration that the Shahed and and
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the other Iranian drones are having
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the other Iranian drones are having
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against uh Ukraine as well as with the
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against uh Ukraine as well as with the
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with the missiles you know at much
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with the missiles you know at much
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higher penetration you know where they
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higher penetration you know where they
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could and perhaps they were you know
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could and perhaps they were you know
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anticipating given the success of their
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anticipating given the success of their
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systems in the Ukraine theater that that
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systems in the Ukraine theater that that
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their systems in the Israeli theater
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their systems in the Israeli theater
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could have had that same same type of
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could have had that same same type of
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effect or at least a little bit better
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effect or at least a little bit better
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than what they actually ended up with so
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than what they actually ended up with so
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I think this is one of the things that
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I think this is one of the things that
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uh is really uh really interesting about
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uh is really uh really interesting about
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how the the Iranians are going to
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how the the Iranians are going to
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recalculate uh after uh the the events
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recalculate uh after uh the the events
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of of of of Saturday uh and think
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of of of of Saturday uh and think
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through how can they uh improve that
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through how can they uh improve that
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rate um and uh you know does you know
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rate um and uh you know does you know
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again because you know 100 plus
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again because you know 100 plus
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ballistic missiles uh is is quite a bit
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ballistic missiles uh is is quite a bit
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uh and it didn't get through at least
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uh and it didn't get through at least
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most of it did not get through uh and so
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most of it did not get through uh and so
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I think this is a this but my fear is
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I think this is a this but my fear is
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that the Iranians are going to learn a
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that the Iranians are going to learn a
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lot from what happened uh and and
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lot from what happened uh and and
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recalibrate uh for the next round if we
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recalibrate uh for the next round if we
have
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have
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have
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one I agree I I agree completely with
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one I agree I I agree completely with
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Matt I think there are two things we
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Matt I think there are two things we
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need to understand though that Iran as
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need to understand though that Iran as
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stunning as its attack was in terms of
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stunning as its attack was in terms of
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more than 330 missiles and drones that
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more than 330 missiles and drones that
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that was just a fraction of its Arsenal
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that was just a fraction of its Arsenal
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it has over 3,000 ballistic missiles
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it has over 3,000 ballistic missiles
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alone uh and that yes it was a learning
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alone uh and that yes it was a learning
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experience but yes they've got a they've
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experience but yes they've got a they've
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got an awful lot to unleash and frankly
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got an awful lot to unleash and frankly
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uh I wrote a piece three years ago about
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uh I wrote a piece three years ago about
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how Iran because of its largely because
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how Iran because of its largely because
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of its missile capabilities has reached
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of its missile capabilities has reached
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a point that the Pentagon calls
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a point that the Pentagon calls
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overmatch and that is where Iran and its
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overmatch and that is where Iran and its
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allies could if they Unleashed half or
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allies could if they Unleashed half or
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more of what they have collectively they
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more of what they have collectively they
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could penetrate now it would be a very
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could penetrate now it would be a very
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expensive because it would it could sap
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expensive because it would it could sap
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their arsenals sa their you know the
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their arsenals sa their you know the
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things the arsenals they've built over
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things the arsenals they've built over
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years but they could would do damage so
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years but they could would do damage so
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we shouldn't take for granted that
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we shouldn't take for granted that
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Israel has a foolproof deterrent system
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Israel has a foolproof deterrent system
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I think there's um a real danger in kind
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I think there's um a real danger in kind
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of coming to that conclusion and I do
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of coming to that conclusion and I do
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think that um I just actually uh was
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think that um I just actually uh was
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sent something um kind of a News
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sent something um kind of a News
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Bulletin out of uh Iran that the general
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Bulletin out of uh Iran that the general
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hak talab who is in charge of nuclear
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hak talab who is in charge of nuclear
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security for the Revolutionary guards
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security for the Revolutionary guards
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has come out today and said because of
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has come out today and said because of
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what's going on with Israel we are going
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what's going on with Israel we are going
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to to reconsider our nuclear strategy
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to to reconsider our nuclear strategy
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and our nuclear policy and you know we
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and our nuclear policy and you know we
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can only hope that's Bluff and rhetoric
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can only hope that's Bluff and rhetoric
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but there's a real danger that Iran now
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but there's a real danger that Iran now
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feels and remember it's a paranoid
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feels and remember it's a paranoid
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Revolution xenophobic um suspicious
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Revolution xenophobic um suspicious
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because of its minority status whether
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because of its minority status whether
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it's ethnically politically in in terms
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it's ethnically politically in in terms
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of religion
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of religion
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that it will look for a way to prove
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that it will look for a way to prove
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that it has a deterrent cap ability too
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that it has a deterrent cap ability too
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and that's the danger when we talk about
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and that's the danger when we talk about
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escalation and a wher war yes you know
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escalation and a wher war yes you know
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there are obviously dangers that it
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there are obviously dangers that it
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brings in whether it's a greater role by
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brings in whether it's a greater role by
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the proxies or brings in other countries
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the proxies or brings in other countries
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but the real danger is a revision in
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but the real danger is a revision in
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Israeli Strate Iranian strategy that
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Israeli Strate Iranian strategy that
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really brings us into a whole new ball
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really brings us into a whole new ball
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game and frankly I'm at the point that I
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game and frankly I'm at the point that I
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believe that Iran will become the 10th
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believe that Iran will become the 10th
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power if I can add one other uh note on
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power if I can add one other uh note on
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on Rob's great comments uh for me as we
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on Rob's great comments uh for me as we
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were watching what may happen with uh
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were watching what may happen with uh
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with the Iranian nuclear program after
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with the Iranian nuclear program after
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Saturday for me you know moving if they
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Saturday for me you know moving if they
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decide to move towards a uh you know
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decide to move towards a uh you know
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towards a weapon it it I wonder if it is
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towards a weapon it it I wonder if it is
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almost kind of admitting uh the failure
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almost kind of admitting uh the failure
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of what they've been trying to do for so
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of what they've been trying to do for so
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uh for the last you know 10 plus years
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uh for the last you know 10 plus years
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of really building up their conventional
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of really building up their conventional
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defenses and their conventional off
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defenses and their conventional off
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offensive and defensive capabilities to
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offensive and defensive capabilities to
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be on that as Robin was describing both
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be on that as Robin was describing both
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the overmatch as well as having the
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the overmatch as well as having the
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defensive capacity to to withstand what
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defensive capacity to to withstand what
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they think the Israelis or the us could
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they think the Israelis or the us could
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throw at them that you know they've been
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throw at them that you know they've been
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very focused uh in addition to
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very focused uh in addition to
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everything happening with the nuclear
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everything happening with the nuclear
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program to really build up their
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program to really build up their
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conventional capacity uh and and in some
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conventional capacity uh and and in some
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ways kind of after everything they find
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ways kind of after everything they find
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we're just gonna have to go for a nuke
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we're just gonna have to go for a nuke
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um it's I mean they could do that uh
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um it's I mean they could do that uh
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it's certainly a fear but it does feel a
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it's certainly a fear but it does feel a
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bit like that's kind of admitting that
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bit like that's kind of admitting that
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their strategy hasn't quite worked uh
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their strategy hasn't quite worked uh
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and I don't quite know if they're if
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and I don't quite know if they're if
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they're ready for that I think they
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they're ready for that I think they
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certainly want to be telegraphing right
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certainly want to be telegraphing right
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now at least they seem to be wanting to
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now at least they seem to be wanting to
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Telegraph that they are thinking about
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Telegraph that they are thinking about
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it and that and hopefully to have some
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it and that and hopefully to have some
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deterrent effect I assume uh but it's
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deterrent effect I assume uh but it's
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this balance and interaction between
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this balance and interaction between
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their conventional thinking and the
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their conventional thinking and the
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conventional Doctrine and defenses and
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conventional Doctrine and defenses and
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their potential use of that
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their potential use of that
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strategically ambiguous nuclear program
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strategically ambiguous nuclear program
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uh that we've been so worried about for
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uh that we've been so worried about for
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the last 25 years uh that that for me is
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the last 25 years uh that that for me is
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really fascinating and and I don't I
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really fascinating and and I don't I
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don't know where the Iranians will go
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don't know where the Iranians will go
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with that and I want to add something to
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with that and I want to add something to
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Matt too it's really important to
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Matt too it's really important to
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understand that if Iran does take the
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understand that if Iran does take the
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political decision to make a bomb that
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political decision to make a bomb that
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it will be for deterrent capabilities
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it will be for deterrent capabilities
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they don't intend I don't think under
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they don't intend I don't think under
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even the most Hardline government Iran
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even the most Hardline government Iran
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has ever experienced I don't think their
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has ever experienced I don't think their
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intention is to use it they they knew
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intention is to use it they they knew
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they know that that's suicide
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they know that that's suicide
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politically and
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politically and
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militarily wow uh uh this is uh about
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militarily wow uh uh this is uh about
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the best uh I've heard about this
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the best uh I've heard about this
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situation and thank you both and now
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situation and thank you both and now
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we're going to Morocco Muhammad Tajin
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we're going to Morocco Muhammad Tajin
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husani has the following Henry kinger
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husani has the following Henry kinger
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stated a few weeks before his death that
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stated a few weeks before his death that
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World War II would inevitably come
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World War II would inevitably come
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within three or four years for the
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within three or four years for the
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Israeli response to Iran lead to such a
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Israeli response to Iran lead to such a
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war and related to the previous question
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war and related to the previous question
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uh is Israel going to make it worse for
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uh is Israel going to make it worse for
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itself if it attacks now related to the
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itself if it attacks now related to the
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previous question in this
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previous question in this
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question which one of you you're both
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question which one of you you're both
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smiling I I I I can take it again
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smiling I I I I can take it again
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um I'm not sure I mean I I tend to think
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um I'm not sure I mean I I tend to think
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we're going to find uh we're going to
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we're going to find uh we're going to
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muddle our our way through this uh for a
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muddle our our way through this uh for a
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bit um but you know the concern of
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bit um but you know the concern of
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course you know because we have you know
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course you know because we have you know
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an ongoing conflict uh in in the Ukraine
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an ongoing conflict uh in in the Ukraine
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in addition to what's happening in Gaza
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in addition to what's happening in Gaza
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in addition to what's happening between
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in addition to what's happening between
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Iran and Israel uh and of course
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Iran and Israel uh and of course
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concerns that uh we could also have
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concerns that uh we could also have
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escalation uh you know over the Taiwan
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escalation uh you know over the Taiwan
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Strait I think for me I I think it's
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Strait I think for me I I think it's
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unlikely that all of that is going to
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unlikely that all of that is going to
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converge uh into a a larger singular
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converge uh into a a larger singular
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Conflict at the same time it is it is
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Conflict at the same time it is it is
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from my perspective clear that each of
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from my perspective clear that each of
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those theaters are interacting with each
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those theaters are interacting with each
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other uh and there and as we're seeing
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other uh and there and as we're seeing
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um Moscow and Beijing and tyon uh and
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um Moscow and Beijing and tyon uh and
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sometimes pyang and and North Korea uh
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sometimes pyang and and North Korea uh
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coordinate uh more strategically uh and
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coordinate uh more strategically uh and
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I think all of these conflicts are
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I think all of these conflicts are
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actually pushing those uh those three
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actually pushing those uh those three
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powers closer together uh to the point
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powers closer together uh to the point
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where there I you know even though they
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where there I you know even though they
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still are many challenges for them I
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still are many challenges for them I
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don't call it an alliance uh we're
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don't call it an alliance uh we're
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talking do we start talking about the
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talking do we start talking about the
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axes of evil again I don't know
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axes of evil again I don't know
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uh but you know the the concern is that
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uh but you know the the concern is that
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what's what's happening in each of these
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what's what's happening in each of these
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three theaters is is creating strategic
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three theaters is is creating strategic
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I w't say dependencies but strategic
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I w't say dependencies but strategic
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Pathways of thinking and planning as
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Pathways of thinking and planning as
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well as arming and and you know sharing
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well as arming and and you know sharing
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of Doctrine and and and Lessons Learned
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of Doctrine and and and Lessons Learned
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uh that you know technology uh
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uh that you know technology uh
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cooperation that's going on among these
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cooperation that's going on among these
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three powers and and then four including
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three powers and and then four including
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North Korea uh that is is going to kind
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North Korea uh that is is going to kind
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of create new Mutual
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of create new Mutual
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dependencies uh strategic dependencies
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dependencies uh strategic dependencies
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over time uh that could really make it
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over time uh that could really make it
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very complicated uh you know if we have
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very complicated uh you know if we have
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uh you know pressures in in the Taiwan
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uh you know pressures in in the Taiwan
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straight does that accelerate situations
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straight does that accelerate situations
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in the Middle East or or or Russia or
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in the Middle East or or or Russia or
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vice versa um you know if things get
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vice versa um you know if things get
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really bad for Iran or really bad for
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really bad for Iran or really bad for
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Russia does that put pressure on China
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Russia does that put pressure on China
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to to ramp up uh its situation uh but
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to to ramp up uh its situation uh but
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you again I think that's where I'm I'm
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you again I think that's where I'm I'm
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I'm worried about the the different
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I'm worried about the the different
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fights interacting I don't know that
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fights interacting I don't know that
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kind of merging into a full World War
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kind of merging into a full World War
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III situation I I'm I'm less convinced
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III situation I I'm I'm less convinced
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that's going to happen so I'll add my my
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that's going to happen so I'll add my my
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two cents um I believe that Ukraine is
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two cents um I believe that Ukraine is
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far more important in terms of long-term
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far more important in terms of long-term
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Western interests uh protection of
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Western interests uh protection of
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Europe protection of you know democratic
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Europe protection of you know democratic
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values and so forth uh and and I worry
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values and so forth uh and and I worry
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that the the Middle East has distracted
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that the the Middle East has distracted
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the United States because of issues of
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the United States because of issues of
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who do you Aid and how how much
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who do you Aid and how how much
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equipment do you provide and I and I'm
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equipment do you provide and I and I'm
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really sorry to see that the ukrainians
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really sorry to see that the ukrainians
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are now in a position that they're
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are now in a position that they're
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losing territory and U there's open Talk
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losing territory and U there's open Talk
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of you know even losing the war um or
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of you know even losing the war um or
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losing territory you know quazi
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losing territory you know quazi
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permanently I do think that the
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permanently I do think that the
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interesting dynamic between China Russia
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interesting dynamic between China Russia
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and Iran is that they are very strange
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and Iran is that they are very strange
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bad fellows you know Russia post
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bad fellows you know Russia post
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communism autocratic rule but it's not
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communism autocratic rule but it's not
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communist in ideology uh China is
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communist in ideology uh China is
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communist um Iran uh hates communism and
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communist um Iran uh hates communism and
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doesn't like you
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doesn't like you
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know kind of so they kind of they need
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know kind of so they kind of they need
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each other they use each other the
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each other they use each other the
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interesting thing is China's playing off
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interesting thing is China's playing off
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Russia against Iran with discounted oil
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Russia against Iran with discounted oil
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both countries are sanctioned need to
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both countries are sanctioned need to
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sell oil and so China's you know
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sell oil and so China's you know
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exploiting their Necessities um I I
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exploiting their Necessities um I I
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think Xi Jinping is laughing all the way
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think Xi Jinping is laughing all the way
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to the bank he's seeing the West uh
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to the bank he's seeing the West uh
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distracted especially the United States
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distracted especially the United States
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by the wars in Ukraine and the Middle
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by the wars in Ukraine and the Middle
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East uh I worry that down the road you
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East uh I worry that down the road you
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know we have some kind of uh something
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know we have some kind of uh something
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happen in the Indo Pacific particularly
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happen in the Indo Pacific particularly
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over Taiwan uh I think that that kind of
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over Taiwan uh I think that that kind of
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offensive by China is a little bit more
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offensive by China is a little bit more
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complicated than people think but Xi
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complicated than people think but Xi
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Jinping has made clear that he intends
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Jinping has made clear that he intends
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to to take back Taiwan and in his uh
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to to take back Taiwan and in his uh
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period of his Rule and of course he's
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period of his Rule and of course he's
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around um in an open-ended way now so uh
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around um in an open-ended way now so uh
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when we think about this Alliance I
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when we think about this Alliance I
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think there are ways that we can um
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think there are ways that we can um
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shortstop it that we can accentuate the
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shortstop it that we can accentuate the
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differences between the two of them but
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differences between the two of them but
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it involves again kind of imaginative um
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it involves again kind of imaginative um
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diplomacy uh doing more than we are not
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diplomacy uh doing more than we are not
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abandoning uh you know the front line in
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abandoning uh you know the front line in
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Ukraine because of the Middle East and I
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Ukraine because of the Middle East and I
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think unfortunately those issues have
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think unfortunately those issues have
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merged in a way that's
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merged in a way that's
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counterproductive kind of for for
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counterproductive kind of for for
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everything we want to see happen the
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everything we want to see happen the
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funny thing is the next question was
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funny thing is the next question was
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going to be just this so I want to give
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going to be just this so I want to give
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the person who I I think is a former
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the person who I I think is a former
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UCLA student uh as I recall La saltsman
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UCLA student uh as I recall La saltsman
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uh Community member she says can you
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uh Community member she says can you
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please address the connection between
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please address the connection between
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the war in Ukraine and the Iranian
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the war in Ukraine and the Iranian
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attack to what extent if at all is this
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attack to what extent if at all is this
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a case of fail deterrence on behalf of
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a case of fail deterrence on behalf of
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the US Administration so this relates to
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the US Administration so this relates to
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where you just were Robin any further
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where you just were Robin any further
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comments no
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comments no
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Matt only to add that I I do think uh
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Matt only to add that I I do think uh
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you know as this as this re-evaluation
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you know as this as this re-evaluation
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there there was in my opinion a failure
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there there was in my opinion a failure
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of deterrence on on our part I mean it's
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of deterrence on on our part I mean it's
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been made pretty well known uh that you
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been made pretty well known uh that you
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know we were sending uh frequent
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know we were sending uh frequent
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messages uh you know to the Iranians uh
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messages uh you know to the Iranians uh
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to you know to not conduct this attack
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to you know to not conduct this attack
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obviously that didn't work um and and
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obviously that didn't work um and and
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think that that the the US has got to
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think that that the the US has got to
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re-evaluate again uh how effective our
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re-evaluate again uh how effective our
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deterrence is right now uh at that
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deterrence is right now uh at that
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strategic level even though I think the
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strategic level even though I think the
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demonstration of our capabilities on
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demonstration of our capabilities on
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Saturday has certainly aided um our
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Saturday has certainly aided um our
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deterrence uh but you know this is a
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deterrence uh but you know this is a
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again similar to the situation that we
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again similar to the situation that we
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had with uh with Putin in in 2021 uh and
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had with uh with Putin in in 2021 uh and
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early 2022 uh where we were also you
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early 2022 uh where we were also you
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know similar to here you know dis
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know similar to here you know dis
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disclosing intelligence information
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disclosing intelligence information
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making very clear what our messages are
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making very clear what our messages are
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um which are you know I fully support
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um which are you know I fully support
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both of these policy I think that's
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both of these policy I think that's
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actually been some of the best things to
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actually been some of the best things to
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see uh in US foreign policy recently is
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see uh in US foreign policy recently is
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our use of of disclosed intelligence uh
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our use of of disclosed intelligence uh
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and and attempts to improve our
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and and attempts to improve our
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messaging uh but I I think it still
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messaging uh but I I think it still
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shows that that we have not figured out
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shows that that we have not figured out
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uh how to really deter um uh folks uh
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uh how to really deter um uh folks uh
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like either Putin or uh or uh suprem you
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like either Putin or uh or uh suprem you
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know H uh which makes me even more
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know H uh which makes me even more
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nervous that we're going to be have any
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nervous that we're going to be have any
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effect or have the effect we want with
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effect or have the effect we want with
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Xi Jinping potentially in the
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Xi Jinping potentially in the
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future this is from muhamed is husani
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future this is from muhamed is husani
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from Morocco but I think it's different
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from Morocco but I think it's different
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from the past I'm going to ask it anyway
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from the past I'm going to ask it anyway
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Israeli said there will be no ceasefire
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Israeli said there will be no ceasefire
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because the complete
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because the complete
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distraction before the complete
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distraction before the complete
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distraction of
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distraction of
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Kamas uh I think uh complete uh
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Kamas uh I think uh complete uh
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destruction I think is what's meant uh
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destruction I think is what's meant uh
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may be wrong how can we imagine
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may be wrong how can we imagine
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desolution of the crisis particularly
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desolution of the crisis particularly
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the recognition of a viable Palestinian
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the recognition of a viable Palestinian
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State also can we consider htis as a
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State also can we consider htis as a
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national movement looking for the vital
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national movement looking for the vital
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interest of yemeni people or just a tool
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interest of yemeni people or just a tool
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acting for the Iranian interests in the
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acting for the Iranian interests in the
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region we had a big discussion of that
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region we had a big discussion of that
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yesterday and of course you can anybody
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yesterday and of course you can anybody
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can read it uh uh can can can hear it
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can read it uh uh can can can hear it
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it'll be ready in a couple of days but
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it'll be ready in a couple of days but
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to the two of
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to the two of
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you uh H how um
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you uh H how um
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uh uh what do you think of that and
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uh uh what do you think of that and
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there's another similar question that
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there's another similar question that
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I'm going to ask because it's related to
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I'm going to ask because it's related to
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the previous one this is from helner in
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the previous one this is from helner in
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Oxford although the Saudi amirati
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Oxford although the Saudi amirati
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rivalry was first visible in Yemen in
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rivalry was first visible in Yemen in
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about uh 2017 is now far broader and
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about uh 2017 is now far broader and
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expanding in all kinds of other sectors
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expanding in all kinds of other sectors
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oil prices now Al plenty others although
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oil prices now Al plenty others although
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Yemen remains a major focus and as AG
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Yemen remains a major focus and as AG
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said it is keeping the Saudis in the
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said it is keeping the Saudis in the
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yemeni Quagmire also as a person who
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yemeni Quagmire also as a person who
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worked in rural development in Yemen for
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worked in rural development in Yemen for
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decades and someone who believes in
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decades and someone who believes in
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community L on issues and democracy no
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community L on issues and democracy no
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way can be transformed into a solution
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way can be transformed into a solution
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to the National fragmentation of the
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to the National fragmentation of the
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leadership rather the contrary so we're
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leadership rather the contrary so we're
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dealing with ye Yemen and a couple of
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dealing with ye Yemen and a couple of
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ideas good luck and I think you're
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ideas good luck and I think you're
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coming in
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coming in
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first so uh go right ahead
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first so uh go right ahead
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so I love Yemen I took my mother there
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so I love Yemen I took my mother there
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uh in the mid1 1990s on vacation um I
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uh in the mid1 1990s on vacation um I
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mean it was it's just such a wonderful
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mean it was it's just such a wonderful
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place I I always say it's the closest
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place I I always say it's the closest
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place on Earth to know what it's like to
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place on Earth to know what it's like to
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live on another planet because uh
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live on another planet because uh
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everything is different in terms of
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everything is different in terms of
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human settlements and um the way things
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human settlements and um the way things
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get done I just want to make one point
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get done I just want to make one point
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generally on the houthis and on Iran's
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generally on the houthis and on Iran's
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axis of resistance we tend to always
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axis of resistance we tend to always
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just say Iranian backed Hezbollah
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just say Iranian backed Hezbollah
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Iranian backed houthis whatever what all
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Iranian backed houthis whatever what all
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of these groups have their own agenda uh
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of these groups have their own agenda uh
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all of them are exploiting Iran in the
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all of them are exploiting Iran in the
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same way Iran is exploiting them uh
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same way Iran is exploiting them uh
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where they have commonalities but they
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where they have commonalities but they
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are also issues on which they have
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are also issues on which they have
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differences and and they all emerged in
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differences and and they all emerged in
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context of local politics um so no huis
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context of local politics um so no huis
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you know don't represent all of Yemen
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you know don't represent all of Yemen
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and they don't hold all of Yemen and you
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and they don't hold all of Yemen and you
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know the tragedy is that uh on the eeve
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know the tragedy is that uh on the eeve
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of October 7th we saw some movement
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of October 7th we saw some movement
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toward a resolution of the conflict
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toward a resolution of the conflict
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between Yemen and Saudi Arabia but
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between Yemen and Saudi Arabia but
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everything is frozen whether it's uh the
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everything is frozen whether it's uh the
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future of Yemen or the Saudi
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future of Yemen or the Saudi
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relationship with Israel and I mean
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relationship with Israel and I mean
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that's one of the tragic byproducts uh
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that's one of the tragic byproducts uh
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Matt<01:00:22.760> all<01:00:22.960> right<01:00:23.720> uh<01:00:23.960> Matt
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Matt all right uh Matt
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Matt all right uh Matt
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yeah I I think you know
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yeah I I think you know
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for you know and I'm honestly I'm not a
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for you know and I'm honestly I'm not a
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specialist on the uh on the the
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specialist on the uh on the the
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Palestinian uh you know issue but I I
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Palestinian uh you know issue but I I
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think the the concern that Israel is
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think the the concern that Israel is
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facing is that it's current effort to
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facing is that it's current effort to
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you know destroy Hamas which I think
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you know destroy Hamas which I think
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we've already seen indications that
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we've already seen indications that
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their recognition that it's not going to
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their recognition that it's not going to
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quite play out like that that they're
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quite play out like that that they're
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going to have to um reevaluate that Str
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going to have to um reevaluate that Str
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and probably are re evaluating exactly
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and probably are re evaluating exactly
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what that's going to look like because
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what that's going to look like because
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we're seeing you know Hamas uh in
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we're seeing you know Hamas uh in
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limited ways is already reconstituting
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limited ways is already reconstituting
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in areas after the Israelis have left I
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in areas after the Israelis have left I
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think the Israelis are are going to
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think the Israelis are are going to
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eventually find themselves uh you know
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eventually find themselves uh you know
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in a in a combination of of of uh
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in a in a combination of of of uh
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counterinsurgency Counter Intelligence
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counterinsurgency Counter Intelligence
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and uh peacekeeping and uh and and in
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and uh peacekeeping and uh and and in
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Redevelopment all at the same time uh
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Redevelopment all at the same time uh
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which I you know this as some have noted
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which I you know this as some have noted
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this you know is going to feel a little
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this you know is going to feel a little
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bit like Iraq uh was for us um and and I
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bit like Iraq uh was for us um and and I
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think that which is kind of goes to one
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think that which is kind of goes to one
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of Robin's earlier points about how long
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of Robin's earlier points about how long
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this the situation could go on uh and
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this the situation could go on uh and
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and so I think for for the Israelis
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and so I think for for the Israelis
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they're they're going to have to think
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they're they're going to have to think
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through what is really uh going to get
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through what is really uh going to get
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them the security that they they want uh
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them the security that they they want uh
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in the end uh certainly the US still
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in the end uh certainly the US still
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supports a two-state solution um and and
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supports a two-state solution um and and
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I think some some form of that is still
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I think some some form of that is still
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most likely The Way Forward uh that that
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most likely The Way Forward uh that that
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would provide that uh obviously I'm
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would provide that uh obviously I'm
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pessimistic we're going to get that
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pessimistic we're going to get that
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right uh in in the near term uh but I I
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right uh in in the near term uh but I I
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do think that the the the whole region
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do think that the the the whole region
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is going to have to re-evaluate the uh
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is going to have to re-evaluate the uh
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its policies towards the Palestinians uh
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its policies towards the Palestinians uh
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in general uh both those that support
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in general uh both those that support
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and those that have been you know at
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and those that have been you know at
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least you know supporting Hamas or
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least you know supporting Hamas or
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supporting F or opposing it uh that I
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supporting F or opposing it uh that I
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think all of that is going to be
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think all of that is going to be
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re-evaluated is being reevaluated on y
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re-evaluated is being reevaluated on y
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uh it's you know it's important to
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uh it's you know it's important to
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understand this uh this evolution of the
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understand this uh this evolution of the
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axis of resistance that you know that
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axis of resistance that you know that
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the houthis were a thing before there
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the houthis were a thing before there
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was an access of resistance uh and uh
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was an access of resistance uh and uh
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well at least in its kind of modern form
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well at least in its kind of modern form
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uh and and of course over the years they
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uh and and of course over the years they
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have you know developed close
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have you know developed close
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relationships with his with L hisbah and
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relationships with his with L hisbah and
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of course with the uh you know Islamic
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of course with the uh you know Islamic
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revolutionary guard Corps and the Kuts
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revolutionary guard Corps and the Kuts
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force uh and they have become obviously
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force uh and they have become obviously
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a very important part of that axis now
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a very important part of that axis now
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but at the same time you know since
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but at the same time you know since
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October 7th they have really appreciated
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October 7th they have really appreciated
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the The credibility that they have
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the The credibility that they have
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appeared to have gained within the
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appeared to have gained within the
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Islamic community uh within the Arab
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Islamic community uh within the Arab
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Community as as the ones fighting for uh
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Community as as the ones fighting for uh
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for the Palestinians uh more directly
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for the Palestinians uh more directly
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than anyone else and I think it's it's
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than anyone else and I think it's it's
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put some very interesting pressures on
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put some very interesting pressures on
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Iran uh to be able to you know continue
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Iran uh to be able to you know continue
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what it believes is its rightful place
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what it believes is its rightful place
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to lead the Islamic community and not
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to lead the Islamic community and not
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only from an Islamic revolutionary
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only from an Islamic revolutionary
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standpoint but just from the uh Islamic
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standpoint but just from the uh Islamic
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community as a whole uh and and I think
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community as a whole uh and and I think
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that's that's part of what uh is is is
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that's that's part of what uh is is is
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interesting right now of what you know
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interesting right now of what you know
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why things were more uh you know uh more
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why things were more uh you know uh more
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significant in the in the
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significant in the in the
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retaliation on Saturday uh and why some
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retaliation on Saturday uh and why some
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of this is we're seeing greater risk uh
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of this is we're seeing greater risk uh
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taken by the uh Irani leadership you
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taken by the uh Irani leadership you
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know is this kind of pressure from the
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know is this kind of pressure from the
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houthis that you know they are not
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houthis that you know they are not
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simply proxies here they are Partners uh
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simply proxies here they are Partners uh
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and and sometimes in certain ways they
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and and sometimes in certain ways they
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are kind of taking the lead on things uh
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are kind of taking the lead on things uh
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and in ways that may not always align
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and in ways that may not always align
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with where Iran wants to go or at least
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with where Iran wants to go or at least
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at the the tempo that Iran wants to go
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at the the tempo that Iran wants to go
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uh and so for me this this Dynamic of
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uh and so for me this this Dynamic of
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pressure between uh you know among the
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pressure between uh you know among the
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you know among the key groups within the
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you know among the key groups within the
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axis and Iran um really where where
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axis and Iran um really where where
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Lebanese hisb is going to go we haven't
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Lebanese hisb is going to go we haven't
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really talked much about Lebanon uh in
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really talked much about Lebanon uh in
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this situation for for next uh next
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this situation for for next uh next
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steps uh but certainly everyone's
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steps uh but certainly everyone's
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concerned that we're going to have uh
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concerned that we're going to have uh
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another opening of of a full uh Le on
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another opening of of a full uh Le on
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front we always we already have a lower
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front we always we already have a lower
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level amount of of of activity uh but
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level amount of of of activity uh but
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that is one of the things that you know
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that is one of the things that you know
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hisbah for now uh is is restrained and
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hisbah for now uh is is restrained and
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and does not necessarily want to go
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and does not necessarily want to go
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further uh the Israelis also I don't
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further uh the Israelis also I don't
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think want to but I think they feel like
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think want to but I think they feel like
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they may need to uh which is the big
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they may need to uh which is the big
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concern uh so I think that the you know
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concern uh so I think that the you know
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really where baa where the houthis are
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really where baa where the houthis are
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and where the uh where the Irani
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and where the uh where the Irani
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leadership and particularly the
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leadership and particularly the
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Revolutionary guard are um is a very
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Revolutionary guard are um is a very
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changing quickly evolving Dynamic uh
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changing quickly evolving Dynamic uh
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since October
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since October
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7th okay we move on uh this is
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7th okay we move on uh this is
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interesting n n Nikolai COV from Moscow
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interesting n n Nikolai COV from Moscow
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are there immediate risks for the GCC if
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are there immediate risks for the GCC if
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there are any what are
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there are any what are
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they either of you want to take this on
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they either of you want to take this on
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I um I I do think that uh as we were
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I um I I do think that uh as we were
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talking about before on the domestic uh
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talking about before on the domestic uh
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concerns that you have in Jordan and
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concerns that you have in Jordan and
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Egypt I think the those domestic
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Egypt I think the those domestic
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concerns probably exist to a more
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concerns probably exist to a more
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limited degree uh within the GCC itself
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limited degree uh within the GCC itself
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um you know there's there was obviously
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um you know there's there was obviously
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you know some uh rumor is very kind of
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you know some uh rumor is very kind of
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Uncertain exactly if if what played out
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Uncertain exactly if if what played out
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about you know the willingness for the
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about you know the willingness for the
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the Gulf States uh to to uh to allow you
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the Gulf States uh to to uh to allow you
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know their uh territory to be used for
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know their uh territory to be used for
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uh the any kind of us response uh to in
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uh the any kind of us response uh to in
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the defense of Israel I think that's
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the defense of Israel I think that's
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something that from what I understand uh
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something that from what I understand uh
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in the end that the aises that the US
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in the end that the aises that the US
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needed uh were provided so in the end
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needed uh were provided so in the end
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that there was there was no actual
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that there was there was no actual
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concern uh but I think that that is
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concern uh but I think that that is
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something that uh each of the Gulf
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something that uh each of the Gulf
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States are going to have to evaluate
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States are going to have to evaluate
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after this that uh you know on the one
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after this that uh you know on the one
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hand uh there's obviously you know some
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hand uh there's obviously you know some
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debate in fear about becoming more
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debate in fear about becoming more
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directly in meshed in the Gaza conflict
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directly in meshed in the Gaza conflict
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they don't want to do that uh but I I
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they don't want to do that uh but I I
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also see you know from you know what
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also see you know from you know what
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we're hearing from the region that you
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we're hearing from the region that you
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know the the performance of the the the
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know the the performance of the the the
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partners uh in the on Saturday is
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partners uh in the on Saturday is
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actually encouraging greater discussion
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actually encouraging greater discussion
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about uh how we can uh you know go
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about uh how we can uh you know go
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further with this uh and and in a way
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further with this uh and and in a way
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which really is surprising after October
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which really is surprising after October
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7th which we thought as as Robin pointed
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7th which we thought as as Robin pointed
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out you know so much of that progress on
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out you know so much of that progress on
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uh normalization and and and increasing
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uh normalization and and and increasing
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our diplomatic uh relationships across
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our diplomatic uh relationships across
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the region really was being put on hold
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the region really was being put on hold
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if not reversed uh and I think uh
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if not reversed uh and I think uh
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Saturday's attack is putting that back
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Saturday's attack is putting that back
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on the agenda uh in a very strong way uh
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on the agenda uh in a very strong way uh
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so I think that the Gulf States are
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so I think that the Gulf States are
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still making their own uh their own
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still making their own uh their own
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hedging uh and calculations about how to
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hedging uh and calculations about how to
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manage both Iran and the US and Israel
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manage both Iran and the US and Israel
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uh they're going to continue to navigate
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uh they're going to continue to navigate
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that uh but I I do think that the uh
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that uh but I I do think that the uh
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that the Gulf States um are I in some
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that the Gulf States um are I in some
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ways in a better place now than they
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ways in a better place now than they
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were before
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were before
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Saturday and we've only got 10 minutes
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Saturday and we've only got 10 minutes
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uh for questions and answers I'm trying
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uh for questions and answers I'm trying
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desperately to get everybody in uh next
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desperately to get everybody in uh next
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is Eric sov of UCLA Alum since China and
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is Eric sov of UCLA Alum since China and
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Russia support Iran do you think
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Russia support Iran do you think
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sanctions on Iran would be effective if
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sanctions on Iran would be effective if
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China and Russia do not honor those
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China and Russia do not honor those
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sanctions also Israel wants to go into
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sanctions also Israel wants to go into
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Rafa to destroy the tunnels that go into
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Rafa to destroy the tunnels that go into
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Egypt and have uh Supply Kamas to
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Egypt and have uh Supply Kamas to
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destroy the last Hamas battalions and to
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destroy the last Hamas battalions and to
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free the hostages you see any scenario
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free the hostages you see any scenario
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that Israel will listen to the US and
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that Israel will listen to the US and
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not go into Rafa and why do you think
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not go into Rafa and why do you think
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the US does not understand the
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the US does not understand the
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importance of going into Rafa so uh big
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importance of going into Rafa so uh big
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question not less time who wants to go
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question not less time who wants to go
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first I'll go first very quickly uh
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first I'll go first very quickly uh
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first I don't think Israel is listening
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first I don't think Israel is listening
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to the United States on very much uh
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to the United States on very much uh
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there are passion there were passions
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there are passion there were passions
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Unleashed on October 7th uh they
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Unleashed on October 7th uh they
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continue to Define policy and politics
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continue to Define policy and politics
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in Israel I I see no um despite the
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in Israel I I see no um despite the
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death toll despite the destruction
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death toll despite the destruction
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despite the you know human stories
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despite the you know human stories
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coming out of Gaza I don't see any major
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coming out of Gaza I don't see any major
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change in public opinion um Beyond you
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change in public opinion um Beyond you
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know questions about BB and the desire
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know questions about BB and the desire
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to get hostages home I think that's uh
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to get hostages home I think that's uh
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again this is a domestic focus and not
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again this is a domestic focus and not
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one on what's happening in in Gaza um I
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one on what's happening in in Gaza um I
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I don't think that you know the the
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I don't think that you know the the
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question is is destroying an
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question is is destroying an
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infrastructure destroying tunnels is is
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infrastructure destroying tunnels is is
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that going to be enough to destroy Hamas
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that going to be enough to destroy Hamas
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and I'm not so sure long term again
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and I'm not so sure long term again
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there are differences between uh kind of
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there are differences between uh kind of
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what some would describe as a military
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what some would describe as a military
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success versus a political or public
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success versus a political or public
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opinion
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opinion
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um success and I think that the Israelis
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um success and I think that the Israelis
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are not being uh as thoughtful as they
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are not being uh as thoughtful as they
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could be in terms of their long-term
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could be in terms of their long-term
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interests uh and look Russia and China
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interests uh and look Russia and China
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are not going to join in the United
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are not going to join in the United
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States or help sanctions and as a result
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States or help sanctions and as a result
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the impact of sanctions will be partial
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the impact of sanctions will be partial
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but certainly not completely effective
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but certainly not completely effective
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or we're going to go on so um I I'm
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or we're going to go on so um I I'm
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looking for it we have one I believe we
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looking for it we have one I believe we
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have one more question I don't see
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have one more question I don't see
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anymore and um perhaps Manny Jad who's
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anymore and um perhaps Manny Jad who's
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been providing all this and making so
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been providing all this and making so
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much uh uh making this so much easier
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much uh uh making this so much easier
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will tell me if I'm wrong anyway this is
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will tell me if I'm wrong anyway this is
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from um dear suan who his third question
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from um dear suan who his third question
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it seems there was a contradiction in
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it seems there was a contradiction in
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the points being made on one hand
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the points being made on one hand
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there's an expressed desire to Halt
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there's an expressed desire to Halt
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hooti momentum yet on the other there
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hooti momentum yet on the other there
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appears to be reluctance to support
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appears to be reluctance to support
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anti- hooti group groups why not look
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anti- hooti group groups why not look
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into a proven track record such as the
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into a proven track record such as the
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success of the
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success of the
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Southern
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Southern
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governorates Governor had in
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governorates Governor had in
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repelling the uh
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repelling the uh
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hooes so um I don't know uh either one
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hooes so um I don't know uh either one
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of you has any questions on that and as
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of you has any questions on that and as
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I say I am looking to make sure but no
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I say I am looking to make sure but no
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we have another
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we have another
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question uh uh there there may be at
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question uh uh there there may be at
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least I may not have been okay no worry
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least I may not have been okay no worry
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about that what about
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about that what about
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this either one of you want to take
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this either one of you want to take
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it yeah um I I can take that one uh you
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it yeah um I I can take that one uh you
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know this has actually been a real
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know this has actually been a real
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challenge uh for US policy uh especially
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challenge uh for US policy uh especially
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you know you know since October 7th uh
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you know you know since October 7th uh
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in the in the Red Sea that you know we
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in the in the Red Sea that you know we
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were heading towards uh and I think it's
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were heading towards uh and I think it's
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still you know the after October 7 we
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still you know the after October 7 we
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were still heading towards uh the the
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were still heading towards uh the the
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pathway I forget exactly the term that
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pathway I forget exactly the term that
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we use for the uh kind of uh resolution
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we use for the uh kind of uh resolution
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of the the Saudi houthi fight that we
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of the the Saudi houthi fight that we
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were uh we were facilitating uh that was
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were uh we were facilitating uh that was
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something that uh was was our number one
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something that uh was was our number one
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priority uh it was certainly what the
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priority uh it was certainly what the
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the Saudis wanted uh and I think that
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the Saudis wanted uh and I think that
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when the the houthis began um escalating
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when the the houthis began um escalating
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against Red Sea shipping it became very
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against Red Sea shipping it became very
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complicated for us uh and it frankly uh
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complicated for us uh and it frankly uh
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really delayed what I think should have
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really delayed what I think should have
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been better better uh policy or
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been better better uh policy or
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decision-making on our part recognizing
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decision-making on our part recognizing
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the situation had really changed uh and
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the situation had really changed uh and
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that you know we were reluctant to
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that you know we were reluctant to
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pressure the houthis uh and uh you know
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pressure the houthis uh and uh you know
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with any effect uh given that we were on
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with any effect uh given that we were on
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this this peace pathway with the Saudis
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this this peace pathway with the Saudis
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I think that's obviously changed a bit
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I think that's obviously changed a bit
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because it became just simply
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because it became just simply
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intolerable uh but I I would agree in
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intolerable uh but I I would agree in
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some with the with the the questioner
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some with the with the the questioner
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that it's very unlikely that the types
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that it's very unlikely that the types
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of uh of of kind of punches in the face
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of uh of of kind of punches in the face
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that we're doing right now in addition
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that we're doing right now in addition
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you know to the
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you know to the
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uh as well as our our cooperation we're
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uh as well as our our cooperation we're
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doing with our partners and trying to
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doing with our partners and trying to
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protect freedom of freedom of navigation
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protect freedom of freedom of navigation
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uh that that's probably not going to be
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uh that that's probably not going to be
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sufficient to really change houti
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sufficient to really change houti
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Behavior Uh and I and I think that's
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Behavior Uh and I and I think that's
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something that we you know looking at
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something that we you know looking at
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ways to pressure the houthis again
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ways to pressure the houthis again
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without completely derailing the peace
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without completely derailing the peace
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process which is the difficulty uh but
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process which is the difficulty uh but
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to you know encourage those types of uh
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to you know encourage those types of uh
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those groups or uh Civil Society within
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those groups or uh Civil Society within
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within Yemen uh that were frankly before
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within Yemen uh that were frankly before
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October 7th were not very happy with
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October 7th were not very happy with
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houthi leadership the houthis were
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houthi leadership the houthis were
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facing a lot of push back uh from some
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facing a lot of push back uh from some
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of the the the the the Clans and from
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of the the the the the Clans and from
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the the larger population the cities and
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the the larger population the cities and
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elsewhere uh and so I think that those
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elsewhere uh and so I think that those
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are areas where you know that that we
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are areas where you know that that we
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could be encouraging the m& people still
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could be encouraging the m& people still
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it's not going to solve all of it but I
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it's not going to solve all of it but I
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think we can we can increase that
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think we can we can increase that
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pressure on the houthis to pull back is
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pressure on the houthis to pull back is
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beyond just simply punching them in the
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beyond just simply punching them in the
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face every now and
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face every now and
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again can I just very Qui to that um I
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again can I just very Qui to that um I
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worry a little bit and you Matt may have
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worry a little bit and you Matt may have
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a better definition of the word
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a better definition of the word
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encourage I worry a lot about where the
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encourage I worry a lot about where the
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United States goes in and kind of
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United States goes in and kind of
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decides well we like you know we don't
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decides well we like you know we don't
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like the people who are the military or
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like the people who are the military or
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the political power so we're going to do
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the political power so we're going to do
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a a lot of things uh you know engage
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a a lot of things uh you know engage
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more visibly in trying to create an
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more visibly in trying to create an
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alternative um I just want to point out
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alternative um I just want to point out
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what we did in Iraq and how successful
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what we did in Iraq and how successful
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that was right um that you know I we
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that was right um that you know I we
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need to be very careful and let kind of
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need to be very careful and let kind of
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local politics play out I do think we've
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local politics play out I do think we've
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something interesting happened has
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something interesting happened has
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happened in Yemen that we're not paying
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happened in Yemen that we're not paying
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enough attention to in the early days as
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enough attention to in the early days as
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uh the houthis escalated their attacks
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uh the houthis escalated their attacks
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on Red Sea shipping after the Gaza War
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on Red Sea shipping after the Gaza War
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um erupted that we were in the early
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um erupted that we were in the early
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days engaging in intercepts trying to
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days engaging in intercepts trying to
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prevent the houthi missiles and drones
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prevent the houthi missiles and drones
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from hitting uh international shipping
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from hitting uh international shipping
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uh but we have very steadily started
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uh but we have very steadily started
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going after anything we see being loaded
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going after anything we see being loaded
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in in Yemen um we did not pay enough
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in in Yemen um we did not pay enough
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attention in the runup even though the
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attention in the runup even though the
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houthis were active against
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houthis were active against
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international shipping before October uh
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international shipping before October uh
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7th we we had no idea what the no
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7th we we had no idea what the no
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estimate of what the houthi Arsenal was
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estimate of what the houthi Arsenal was
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and so now we've gotten to a point that
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and so now we've gotten to a point that
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we're actually taking the war to the to
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we're actually taking the war to the to
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the houthis and I think at some point
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the houthis and I think at some point
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that could you know look as if we're
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that could you know look as if we're
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we're engaged in a war with the houthis
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we're engaged in a war with the houthis
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not just trying to be protective or
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not just trying to be protective or
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defensive or a deterrent and no one's
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defensive or a deterrent and no one's
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paying much attention to that but it's
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paying much attention to that but it's
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an interesting question and and
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an interesting question and and
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something we should all watch
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something we should all watch
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interesting well we have one more
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interesting well we have one more
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question and we have five more minutes
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question and we have five more minutes
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before we go to our
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before we go to our
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conclusion uh so I've never seen a
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conclusion uh so I've never seen a
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program that actually came uh uh uh this
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program that actually came uh uh uh this
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uh this way and we don't have so we have
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uh this way and we don't have so we have
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everybody Israel this is Eric salov from
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everybody Israel this is Eric salov from
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us Alum the second question um oh
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us Alum the second question um oh
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somebody just
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somebody just
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uh all right we'll do our best Israel
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uh all right we'll do our best Israel
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says that they have killed 14,000 Kamas
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says that they have killed 14,000 Kamas
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terrorists and if 30,000 gosms were
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terrorists and if 30,000 gosms were
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killed that would mean that almost half
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killed that would mean that almost half
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of the deaths were Kamas militants Kamas
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of the deaths were Kamas militants Kamas
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claims that two-thirds of its deaths are
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claims that two-thirds of its deaths are
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women and children and does not release
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women and children and does not release
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numbers of how many of its militants
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numbers of how many of its militants
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have been killed also many sources
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have been killed also many sources
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doubt uh the Kamas released numbers of
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doubt uh the Kamas released numbers of
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deaths if the Israeli numbers are
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deaths if the Israeli numbers are
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correct why doesn't the world understand
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correct why doesn't the world understand
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how careful Israel has been to avoid
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how careful Israel has been to avoid
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civilian uh deaths and we have from
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civilian uh deaths and we have from
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David Canard what are Israel's options
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David Canard what are Israel's options
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in deciding its response to
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in deciding its response to
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Iran and uh uh so we can do a last uh
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Iran and uh uh so we can do a last uh
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Fatma Abdullah uh to Matthew you
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Fatma Abdullah uh to Matthew you
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mentioned that October 7th has stopped
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mentioned that October 7th has stopped
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to talks between KSA and hoties how do
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to talks between KSA and hoties how do
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you explain the visit to Saudi earlier
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you explain the visit to Saudi earlier
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this week so this does allow us to
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this week so this does allow us to
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finish everything I don't envy the two
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finish everything I don't envy the two
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of you see what you can do uh let's
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of you see what you can do uh let's
start
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start
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start
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with let's we'll deal uh uh uh let's do
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with let's we'll deal uh uh uh let's do
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it this way Matt I'm uh who I know has
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it this way Matt I'm uh who I know has
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to leave slightly early I'm going to
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to leave slightly early I'm going to
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give you now you can say everything you
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give you now you can say everything you
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want about these or anything else and
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want about these or anything else and
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then uh for the last uh uh section we'll
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then uh for the last uh uh section we'll
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turn to Robin and in Robin's case you
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turn to Robin and in Robin's case you
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can talk as long as you want because
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can talk as long as you want because
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else<01:17:16.320> uh<01:17:16.560> yeah<01:17:17.520> yeah<01:17:17.960> thanks<01:17:18.280> thanks<01:17:18.520> J<01:17:19.480> uh<01:17:19.639> you
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else uh yeah yeah thanks thanks J uh you
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else uh yeah yeah thanks thanks J uh you
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know for the the issue on October 7th
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know for the the issue on October 7th
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that the questioner had uh I I didn't
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that the questioner had uh I I didn't
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imp want to imply that there the talks
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imp want to imply that there the talks
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had stopped I think the the concern was
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had stopped I think the the concern was
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that you know we didn't want to
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that you know we didn't want to
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derail uh those talks that were were
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derail uh those talks that were were
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ongoing uh and and you know that uh that
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ongoing uh and and you know that uh that
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our our special Envoy uh you know Tim
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our our special Envoy uh you know Tim
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blender King was leading or helping to
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blender King was leading or helping to
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facilitate that those were um you know
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facilitate that those were um you know
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an effort that we we were very concerned
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an effort that we we were very concerned
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about disrupting by uh going after the
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about disrupting by uh going after the
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uh the houthis more directly uh so you
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uh the houthis more directly uh so you
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know the that's that was the real
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know the that's that was the real
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conundrum I think for the United States
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conundrum I think for the United States
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to the beginning uh of that of the Red
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to the beginning uh of that of the Red
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Sea escalation uh but I think that right
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Sea escalation uh but I think that right
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now I think we we' we're kind of past
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now I think we we' we're kind of past
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that a bit uh it's still ongoing uh as
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that a bit uh it's still ongoing uh as
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far as I know uh I haven't actually
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far as I know uh I haven't actually
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haven't been updated uh more recently on
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haven't been updated uh more recently on
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that but I I I think we're still trying
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that but I I I think we're still trying
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to pursue everything pushing back the
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to pursue everything pushing back the
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hoies keeping the talks of the Saudis
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hoies keeping the talks of the Saudis
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going uh and uh as well as addressing
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going uh and uh as well as addressing
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the humanitarian situation so uh all of
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the humanitarian situation so uh all of
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that's happening I would say on the the
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that's happening I would say on the the
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Israel uh Israeli options for Iran you
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Israel uh Israeli options for Iran you
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know the the you know we're obvious from
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know the the you know we're obvious from
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what I understand we're encouraging for
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what I understand we're encouraging for
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better for worse the Israelis uh to uh
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better for worse the Israelis uh to uh
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you know to be restrained or to Simply
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you know to be restrained or to Simply
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kind of take take the win uh given the
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kind of take take the win uh given the
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success of our our our Collective
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success of our our our Collective
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defenses on Saturday but uh the you know
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defenses on Saturday but uh the you know
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certainly you the the US uh will not be
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certainly you the the US uh will not be
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supporting uh any uh Israeli counter-
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supporting uh any uh Israeli counter-
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strike uh and that we made that pretty
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strike uh and that we made that pretty
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clear and that is that is certainly what
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clear and that is that is certainly what
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we will be doing uh but the uh the
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we will be doing uh but the uh the
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options uh you know the Israelis will
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options uh you know the Israelis will
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have a lot of options uh but you know
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have a lot of options uh but you know
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that that debate about whether we go uh
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that that debate about whether we go uh
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whe whether they go for uh things like
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whe whether they go for uh things like
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the nuclear infrastructure or they go
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the nuclear infrastructure or they go
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for say for example
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for say for example
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irgc uh command and control or they go
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irgc uh command and control or they go
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for say you know missile uh production
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for say you know missile uh production
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facilities or missile deployment sites
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facilities or missile deployment sites
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uh you know that there's you know given
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uh you know that there's you know given
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if you're looking for uh you know
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if you're looking for uh you know
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retaliatory options given what was
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retaliatory options given what was
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targeted on Saturday there's a whole
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targeted on Saturday there's a whole
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wealth of things that theoretically uh
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wealth of things that theoretically uh
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the Israelis could go for um and you
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the Israelis could go for um and you
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know from you know the US concern the
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know from you know the US concern the
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the issue is you know do you know we
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the issue is you know do you know we
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really want to be you know careful about
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really want to be you know careful about
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uh or encouraging the Israelis to be
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uh or encouraging the Israelis to be
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very uh very uh uh very thoughtful about
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very uh very uh uh very thoughtful about
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the types of targets uh if they are
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the types of targets uh if they are
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going to do something uh that is
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going to do something uh that is
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something that is going to be able to
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something that is going to be able to
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manage the escalation because you know
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manage the escalation because you know
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we we we again we liked what uh how how
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we we we again we liked what uh how how
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we performed on on Saturday but
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we performed on on Saturday but
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obviously we don't want to have a repeat
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obviously we don't want to have a repeat
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of that if we can avoid it uh and and
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of that if we can avoid it uh and and
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given that the risk of of f
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given that the risk of of f
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miscalculation uh I think that's that's
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miscalculation uh I think that's that's
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the real concern but the Israelis do
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the real concern but the Israelis do
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have a number of options uh that they
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have a number of options uh that they
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can through their missile or Air Forces
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can through their missile or Air Forces
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uh can
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uh can
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conduct you have anything else to say
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conduct you have anything else to say
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since I know you have to leave
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since I know you have to leave
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us um I can I can stay on for a couple
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us um I can I can stay on for a couple
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minutes but uh but otherwise it's been
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minutes but uh but otherwise it's been
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great joining you and this has been a
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great joining you and this has been a
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really uh excellent uh conversation uh
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really uh excellent uh conversation uh
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with you and Robin it's been quite an
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with you and Robin it's been quite an
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experience thank you all right Robin
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experience thank you all right Robin
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your turn thanks Matt he's always a
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your turn thanks Matt he's always a
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dynamic speaker and I always learn from
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dynamic speaker and I always learn from
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him a couple of things you know when it
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him a couple of things you know when it
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comes to the options for Israel frankly
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comes to the options for Israel frankly
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I don't know what Israel's objective is
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I don't know what Israel's objective is
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uh we know that BB Netanyahu doesn't
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uh we know that BB Netanyahu doesn't
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want Iran to get a bomb but when it
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want Iran to get a bomb but when it
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comes to what is it trying to do when it
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comes to what is it trying to do when it
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comes to Iran politically kinetically
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comes to Iran politically kinetically
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you know across the board uh in a in a
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you know across the board uh in a in a
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broader way what does uh we know that
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broader way what does uh we know that
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that Israel wants to destroy Hamas
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that Israel wants to destroy Hamas
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annihilate a some of its officials have
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annihilate a some of its officials have
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said uh we know that it wants to to uh
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said uh we know that it wants to to uh
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his bullet to push back on the board I
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his bullet to push back on the board I
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actually think i' and I've talked to
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actually think i' and I've talked to
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senior us officials involved in this
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senior us officials involved in this
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diplomacy that there is a deal that is
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diplomacy that there is a deal that is
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attainable if the Gaza war ends with
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attainable if the Gaza war ends with
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hamama with Hezbollah hisbah is now so
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hamama with Hezbollah hisbah is now so
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far back from the border that it
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far back from the border that it
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wouldn't involve a major withdrawal
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wouldn't involve a major withdrawal
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something that would be you know kind of
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something that would be you know kind of
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embarrassing for hisbah it's already
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embarrassing for hisbah it's already
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lost territory equipment leadership in
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lost territory equipment leadership in
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the South uh and I think for the first
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the South uh and I think for the first
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time NASA wants to Define that border in
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time NASA wants to Define that border in
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a way he didn't after the 2006 War
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a way he didn't after the 2006 War
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because that would mean that his bua was
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because that would mean that his bua was
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recognized recognizes recognizing
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recognized recognizes recognizing
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Israel's right to exist now he has a
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Israel's right to exist now he has a
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security interest in defining that
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security interest in defining that
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border um when it comes to the number of
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border um when it comes to the number of
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deaths they're talking about 33,000 look
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deaths they're talking about 33,000 look
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um has Hamas has provided names whether
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um has Hamas has provided names whether
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they're real or not I don't know there
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they're real or not I don't know there
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are those on the ground International um
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are those on the ground International um
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Aid organizations the United Nations
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Aid organizations the United Nations
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agencies that have used some of these
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agencies that have used some of these
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figures but to me you know you know um
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figures but to me you know you know um
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you're talking about 33,000 even if half
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you're talking about 33,000 even if half
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of them are Hamas that still means
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of them are Hamas that still means
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15,000 uh civilians have been killed and
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15,000 uh civilians have been killed and
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that's really painful um you know a lot
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that's really painful um you know a lot
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of us expected Israel to be a little bit
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of us expected Israel to be a little bit
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more careful in its military operations
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more careful in its military operations
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to avoid deaths we've all seen videos of
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to avoid deaths we've all seen videos of
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um you know the children really young
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um you know the children really young
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children not teenagers who might be
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children not teenagers who might be
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members of Hamas uh you know but the the
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members of Hamas uh you know but the the
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re really little ones who died and I
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re really little ones who died and I
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think this is not good for Israel's
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think this is not good for Israel's
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long-term image um or its kind of
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long-term image um or its kind of
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reputation as being one of the most
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reputation as being one of the most
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moral states in the world so uh do you
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moral states in the world so uh do you
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have any other comments as
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have any other comments as
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we no I think we covered on an awful lot
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we no I think we covered on an awful lot
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of basis today it's very impressive and
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of basis today it's very impressive and
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thank you Steve for organizing this and
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thank you Steve for organizing this and
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to solom and mani for um organizing
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to solom and mani for um organizing
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everything thank you actually I uh we're
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everything thank you actually I uh we're
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g to move right into this uh and be
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g to move right into this uh and be
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right on time first of all the two of
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right on time first of all the two of
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you were amazing and
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you were amazing and
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uh uh we're so lucky to have both of you
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uh uh we're so lucky to have both of you
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and I think the country is so lucky to
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and I think the country is so lucky to
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have both of you and uh this was a
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have both of you and uh this was a
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critical moment and uh we were able to
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critical moment and uh we were able to
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have this kind of uh session I know I
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have this kind of uh session I know I
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feel like I know more about what's going
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feel like I know more about what's going
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on and I hope everyone else does too and
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on and I hope everyone else does too and
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my next point is is your last Point uh
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my next point is is your last Point uh
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Manny Jad who uh uh was behind the
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Manny Jad who uh uh was behind the
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scenes the entire program and uh was
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scenes the entire program and uh was
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giving me all the uh questions want to
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giving me all the uh questions want to
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thank her so much Salam mohajer and Lura
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thank her so much Salam mohajer and Lura
Lee<01:24:11.520> who
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Lee who
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Lee who
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um Monday morning preparing for a
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um Monday morning preparing for a
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session on Wednesday learned that we
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session on Wednesday learned that we
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were goingon to do something on Thursday
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were goingon to do something on Thursday
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and pulled it off it was amazing it's
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and pulled it off it was amazing it's
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the quickest and highest number we've
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the quickest and highest number we've
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ever had maybe couple of days we should
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ever had maybe couple of days we should
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do when we have it faster no I'm kidding
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do when we have it faster no I'm kidding
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but the point is we do thank them and
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but the point is we do thank them and
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Emily pisto who always helps so much and
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Emily pisto who always helps so much and
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I work with uh very strongly uh but I
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I work with uh very strongly uh but I
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should tell everyone that CED is not
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should tell everyone that CED is not
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finished it has a we've been working on
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finished it has a we've been working on
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this for months and we have quite a bit
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this for months and we have quite a bit
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to offer in the next few weeks and so
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to offer in the next few weeks and so
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you all see this uh what is possible
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you all see this uh what is possible
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when it's Israelis and Palestinians work
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when it's Israelis and Palestinians work
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together which would be a little
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together which would be a little
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different is a little different does
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different is a little different does
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occur uh and we'll be discussing that on
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occur uh and we'll be discussing that on
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Thursday uh at 1M Pacific time uh uh a
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Thursday uh at 1M Pacific time uh uh a
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live event and registration is required
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live event and registration is required
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as always as all of these but are
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as always as all of these but are
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available women in Conflict voices
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available women in Conflict voices
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resilience and solutions we'll have
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resilience and solutions we'll have
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Wednesday May
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Wednesday May
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1st uh the following week and then Sudan
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1st uh the following week and then Sudan
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uh the Lesser known war a terrible War
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uh the Lesser known war a terrible War
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uh that we felt we had to discuss uh and
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uh that we felt we had to discuss uh and
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nobody pays much attention to it but we
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nobody pays much attention to it but we
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know people and uh it's just awful
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know people and uh it's just awful
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Thursday May 16th the details are coming
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Thursday May 16th the details are coming
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soon in the latter two cases but uh we
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soon in the latter two cases but uh we
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are up and running for the Thursday
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are up and running for the Thursday
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April 20 uh uh 5th so uh
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April 20 uh uh 5th so uh
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we hope to see you soon we have an
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we hope to see you soon we have an
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exciting series over the next few weeks
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exciting series over the next few weeks
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and again we thank both of our speakers
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and again we thank both of our speakers
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for this very useful session in very
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for this very useful session in very
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difficult times uh we hope to see you
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difficult times uh we hope to see you
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