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What Is Possible When Israelis and Palestinians Work Together?

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The Hamas surprise attack on Israel last October 7 and Israel's subsequent military response have caused enormous upheaval and tragedy in the region. Hamas acted in part to stop ongoing US-brokered negotiations for Saudi Arabia to normalize relations with Israel in exchange for American defense guarantees and Israeli commitments toward Palestinian statehood. Now, more than six months later, a veteran Israeli journalist and a prominent young Palestinian leader will engage in a frank discussion regarding the eventual post-war future. Is the two-state solution still possible? What might a revitalized and reformed Palestinian authority look like? What kind of relationship will the future State of Palestine have with the State of Israel? How will Israel be able to move forward given its current domestic polarization? And how do the Palestinians and the Israelis view the impact of Iran's destabilizing presence on the two-state solution?

 

 MEET THE SPEAKERS

Mr.  Ehud Yaari has been a Middle East commentator for Israel’s Channel Two Television (now Channel 12) since 1975. He is also a Lafer international fellow at The Washington Institute and a former associate editor of The Jerusalem Report. Among his numerous awards for journalism are the Israeli press editors-in-chief prize for coverage of the peace process with Egypt, the Sokolov Prize for coverage of the Lebanon War, and the Israel broadcasting award for coverage of the Gulf War. Mr. Yaari’s articles have appeared in respected newspapers and journals such as The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, Foreign Affairs, and Atlantic Monthly. He is also the author of eight books on the Arab-Israeli conflict.

 

Mr. Samer Abdelrazzak Sinijlawi is chairman of the Jerusalem Development Fund and a Fatah political activist from Jerusalem. An opponent to President Abbass, he recently published an op-ed in the New York Times titled, “Mahmoud Abbas Must Go.” Mr. Sinijlawali belongs to a young Palestinian leadership generation that believes in the need to focus on intensive dialogue and bridge building with Israelis. To that end, he invests extensive time in discussion with Israelis from the left, center, and right. He is the most invited Palestinian to the Israeli media. Recently, Israeli TV Channel 13 interviewed him together with Ehud Barak, Boggi Aylaon, and Dennis Ross on the “Day After.”

 


MEET THE MODERATOR

Professor Steve Zipperstein is associate director of the UCLA Center for Middle East Development. He is also an adjunct assistant professor at the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs. Professor Zipperstein is a former US federal prosecutor and the former chief legal officer of Verizon Wireless and BlackBerry Ltd. He is the author of The Legal Case for Palestine: A Critical Assessment (forthcoming) (Routledge, 2024), Zionism, Palestinian Nationalism and the Law: 1939-1948 (Routledge, 2022), and Law and the Arab-Israeli Conflict: The Trials of Palestine (Routledge 2020).

 

 

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jari uh has come down with um uh a

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jari uh has come down with um uh a

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temporary illness with a very bad cold

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temporary illness with a very bad cold

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him but we also want to thank Nimrod for

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minute uh and for some here who was such

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minute uh and for some here who was such

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a sport about all of our uh changes

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a sport about all of our uh changes

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now uh to begin with I have uh uh uh one

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opening uh I want to introduce our

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moderator today Professor Steve

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moderator today Professor Steve

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zipperstein uh he is the newly uh

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zipperstein uh he is the newly uh

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usually appointed associate

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director of our effort uh and uh he will

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director of our effort uh and uh he will

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be working uh with me with a wide

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be working uh with me with a wide

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variety of uh uh new programs and

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variety of uh uh new programs and

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efforts of the UCLA Center for Middle

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efforts of the UCLA Center for Middle

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East development which makes it possible

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East development which makes it possible

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uh whenever we have this kind of

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uh whenever we have this kind of

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addition uh I will take a deep breath

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addition uh I will take a deep breath

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Professor zipperstein is a former US

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Professor zipperstein is a former US

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Federal prosecutor and the former Chief

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Federal prosecutor and the former Chief

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legal officer of Verizon Wireless and

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is the author of the legal case for

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is the author of the legal case for

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Palestine a critical assessment which is

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Palestine a critical assessment which is

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forthcoming from uh rigin this year I

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forthcoming from uh rigin this year I

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think it's closer than that uh Zionism

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think it's closer than that uh Zionism

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Palestinian nationalism and the law 1939

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Palestinian nationalism and the law 1939

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to 1948 a also rage in 2022 and law and

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to 1948 a also rage in 2022 and law and

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the Arab Israeli conflict the trials of

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the Arab Israeli conflict the trials of

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2020 and so ladies and gentlemen Steve

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2020 and so ladies and gentlemen Steve

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ziin thank you so much Professor Spiegel

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ziin thank you so much Professor Spiegel

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pleasure to be with all of you thank you

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pleasure to be with all of you thank you

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all for joining us for what I promise

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all for joining us for what I promise

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will be a very interesting webinar with

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will be a very interesting webinar with

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two fantastic speakers joining us here's

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two fantastic speakers joining us here's

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what we're going to do I'm going to

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what we're going to do I'm going to

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introduce both both speakers then I will

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introduce both both speakers then I will

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ask each of them to speak uh in the form

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ask each of them to speak uh in the form

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of opening comments for roughly seven

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of opening comments for roughly seven

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minutes each as they are speaking please

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be thinking of questions that you would

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be thinking of questions that you would

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like me to ask them

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on your behalf as Professor Spiegel said

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on your behalf as Professor Spiegel said

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please type those questions into the Q&A

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please type those questions into the Q&A

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box at the bottom of your Zoom screen I

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box at the bottom of your Zoom screen I

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want to get as many of your questions in

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want to get as many of your questions in

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as possible we'll go for about an hour

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as possible we'll go for about an hour

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and a half or so and and see where it

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and a half or so and and see where it

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takes us so uh without further Ado let

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takes us so uh without further Ado let

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me introduce both speakers uh as Steve

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me introduce both speakers uh as Steve

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Spiegel said uh very very uh privileged

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Spiegel said uh very very uh privileged

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to be joined this evening by Dr Nimrod

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to be joined this evening by Dr Nimrod

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novic who stepped in at the last minute

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novic who stepped in at the last minute

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thank you so much Dr novic Dr novic is

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thank you so much Dr novic Dr novic is

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former senior policy advisor to prime

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former senior policy advisor to prime

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minister Shimon Perez special Ambassador

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minister Shimon Perez special Ambassador

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and adviser to the National Security

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and adviser to the National Security

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Council of Israel he's also a member of

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a very important or a very important

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a very important or a very important

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organization called commanders for

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Israel's security an organization of

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Israel's security an organization of

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about 550 former IDF generals as well as

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about 550 former IDF generals as well as

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mosad Shin betet police National

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equivalents Dr novic also serves as the

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equivalents Dr novic also serves as the

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Israel fellow of the Israel policy Forum

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organization active in Washington DC he

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has worked as past chair and is the

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has worked as past chair and is the

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current senior fellow at the economic

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current senior fellow at the economic

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cooperation Foundation an NGO that

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cooperation Foundation an NGO that

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launched the Oslo process and has ever

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launched the Oslo process and has ever

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since been involved in All Phases of the

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since been involved in All Phases of the

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Israeli Palestinian negotiations Dr

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novic also has extensive experience in

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novic also has extensive experience in

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back channnel diplomacy employing a wide

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back channnel diplomacy employing a wide

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network of security and diplomatic

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network of security and diplomatic

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contacts in the region and Beyond we're

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contacts in the region and Beyond we're

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also very very honored this afternoon to

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also very very honored this afternoon to

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be joined by Sam Abdul razak s sini who

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be joined by Sam Abdul razak s sini who

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is Chairman of the Jerusalem Development

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is Chairman of the Jerusalem Development

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Fund and a fatak political activist from

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Jerusalem he is an opponent of

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Jerusalem he is an opponent of

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Palestinian Authority president Mahmud

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Palestinian Authority president Mahmud

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Abbas uh indicated most notably in a

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Abbas uh indicated most notably in a

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recent article in the New York Times in

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recent article in the New York Times in

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oped authored by suir entitled quote

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oped authored by suir entitled quote

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Mahmud abas must go Samir belongs to a

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Mahmud abas must go Samir belongs to a

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young Palestinian leadership uh

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young Palestinian leadership uh

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generation believing in the need to

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generation believing in the need to

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focus on intensive dialogue and bridge

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focus on intensive dialogue and bridge

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building with Israelis and to that end

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building with Israelis and to that end

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he's invested extensive time in

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he's invested extensive time in

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discussions with Israelis from all walks

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discussions with Israelis from all walks

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of a political life left Cent Center and

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of a political life left Cent Center and

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right he is the most invited Palestinian

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right he is the most invited Palestinian

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to appear on Israeli television and

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to appear on Israeli television and

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Israeli media recently Channel 13 and

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Israeli media recently Channel 13 and

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Israel interviewed some together with

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Israel interviewed some together with

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former prime minister Barack uh with

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former prime minister Barack uh with

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Former Defense Minister boji ayone and

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Former Defense Minister boji ayone and

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with us former Envoy Dennis Ross on

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with us former Envoy Dennis Ross on

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questions regarding what will happen in

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questions regarding what will happen in

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Gaza the day after the war so Samir I'm

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Gaza the day after the war so Samir I'm

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going to start with you the floor is

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going to start with you the floor is

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yours for seven minutes thank you so

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yours for seven minutes thank you so

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much for being with us everyone please

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much for being with us everyone please

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questions well thank you very much

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questions well thank you very much

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Professor Steve bin and I have the honor

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Professor Steve bin and I have the honor

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to be here I would like to thank also uh

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to be here I would like to thank also uh

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professor swel and the team of the

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professor swel and the team of the

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center for the Middle East development

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center for the Middle East development

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usla for organizing this

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usla for organizing this

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event uh I will start

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event uh I will start

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by briefly introducing myself uh um I am

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by briefly introducing myself uh um I am

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Palestinian uh political activist I

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Palestinian uh political activist I

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started my political life very early at

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started my political life very early at

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the age of 14 as a kid of of the anti

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the age of 14 as a kid of of the anti

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father who was throwing stones at that

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father who was throwing stones at that

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time spent 5 years in Israeli jails and

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time spent 5 years in Israeli jails and

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that's where I learned my Hebrew and I

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that's where I learned my Hebrew and I

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think it was very

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think it was very

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useful my Hebrew skills has allowed me

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useful my Hebrew skills has allowed me

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to communicate in a very easy way to

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to communicate in a very easy way to

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most of the Israelis that I know and

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most of the Israelis that I know and

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when I was released it was also

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when I was released it was also

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agreement the doors were open when I was

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agreement the doors were open when I was

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out for more communication with the

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out for more communication with the

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Israeli side I was elected as the

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Israeli side I was elected as the

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international secretary for fat Youth

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international secretary for fat Youth

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and there we started talking to the

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and there we started talking to the

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labor youth the party of the late uh

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labor youth the party of the late uh

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prime minister Rabin 96 when there was a

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prime minister Rabin 96 when there was a

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change in power we continue talking to

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change in power we continue talking to

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Theus and I contined this habit until

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Theus and I contined this habit until

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today so investing

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today so investing

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33 years of my life into talking to the

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33 years of my life into talking to the

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Israelis I think it was the best

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Israelis I think it was the best

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investment that I have done in my life

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investment that I have done in my life

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and it is a learning

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and it is a learning

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care it allows you to start

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care it allows you to start

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understanding the conflict

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understanding the conflict

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from the eyes of the other

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from the eyes of the other

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side

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and taking this experience is very

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and taking this experience is very

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important to start trying to find ways

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important to start trying to find ways

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out of this

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out of this

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conflict and uh I believe it applies

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conflict and uh I believe it applies

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also to the other side when Israelis

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also to the other side when Israelis

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start looking at this conflict from the

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start looking at this conflict from the

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eyes of Palestinians it will help a lot

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eyes of Palestinians it will help a lot

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understanding better this

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understanding better this

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conflict uh I believe that any political

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conflict uh I believe that any political

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road that might lead to political

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road that might lead to political

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Horizons for us as Palestinians will not

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Horizons for us as Palestinians will not

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pass through Washington DC or London or

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pass through Washington DC or London or

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Paris or Berlin or Cairo it passes only

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Paris or Berlin or Cairo it passes