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everybody uh uh around the world and
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everybody uh uh around the world and
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thank you for joining us today we have
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thank you for joining us today we have
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the largest group we've ever had uh
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the largest group we've ever had uh
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450 uh and uh Rising so for I'm saying
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450 uh and uh Rising so for I'm saying
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that at the outset because if you want
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that at the outset because if you want
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question uh I learned something we had
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question uh I learned something we had
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another session yesterday and um most of
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another session yesterday and um most of
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the questions came in the last 10
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the questions came in the last 10
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minutes so most of the people didn't get
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minutes so most of the people didn't get
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a chance to ask their questions so if
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a chance to ask their questions so if
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you have a question you can start
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you have a question you can start
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thinking about them we'll be telling you
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thinking about them we'll be telling you
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how to how to do it if you don't know
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how to how to do it if you don't know
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and uh uh uh make it easier for our uh
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and uh uh uh make it easier for our uh
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speakers but uh let's uh let's deal with
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speakers but uh let's uh let's deal with
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the uh uh very quickly uh with the uh
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the uh uh very quickly uh with the uh
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backf facts we'd like to uh take a
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backf facts we'd like to uh take a
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moment to thank our UCLA co-sponsors for
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moment to thank our UCLA co-sponsors for
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helping us spread the word about this
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helping us spread the word about this
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event the most uh numbers at UCLA ever
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event the most uh numbers at UCLA ever
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uh in involving with involved with us
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uh in involving with involved with us
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joined us uh the Burl Center for
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joined us uh the Burl Center for
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the nazarian center for Israel studies
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the nazarian center for Israel studies
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the department of political science uh
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the department of political science uh
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policy now I've been asked to give you a
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policy now I've been asked to give you a
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than usual so uh uh so we'll have more
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uh time first of all when you uh while
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our Facebook page as soon as possible so
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if you want it again you want friends
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possible to see it uh if you are uh
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we will share announcements during the
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we will share announcements during the
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talk uh with you here they're always
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very useful however you will not be able
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to add comments in the chat box if you
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bottom of your screen those are for
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include your name and your country Andor
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announced aloud along with your uh
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not be able to ask a question because
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comments will be uh disabled and so now
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comments will be uh disabled and so now
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I want to uh uh interview uh two people
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I want to uh uh interview uh two people
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who do not really require uh any
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who do not really require uh any
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description so I will be short shorter
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description so I will be short shorter
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than usual uh two America's leading
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than usual uh two America's leading
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figures on these topics I I was amazed
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figures on these topics I I was amazed
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and so excited when they both
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and so excited when they both
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immediately said yes to this session uh
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immediately said yes to this session uh
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which was set up so late and uh given
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which was set up so late and uh given
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the circumstances and I know that two of
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the circumstances and I know that two of
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them have been traveling and moving
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them have been traveling and moving
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around so uh we're really really really
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around so uh we're really really really
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grateful uh miss Robin Wright uh is a
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grateful uh miss Robin Wright uh is a
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senior fellow at the US Institute of
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senior fellow at the US Institute of
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Peace and the woodro Wilson Center uh
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Peace and the woodro Wilson Center uh
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she has reported from more than 140
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she has reported from more than 140
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countries for the New Yorker or the
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countries for the New Yorker or the
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Washington Post Time the uh nyt magazine
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Washington Post Time the uh nyt magazine
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and the LA Times among others she is
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and the LA Times among others she is
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everywhere I'm always ex excited when I
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everywhere I'm always ex excited when I
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see her uh name uh she has uh received
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see her uh name uh she has uh received
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numerous awards for her work including
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numerous awards for her work including
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the UN correspondent Association gold
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the UN correspondent Association gold
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medal for international Affairs the
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medal for international Affairs the
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national magazine award for Iran
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national magazine award for Iran
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reportage and the overseas Press Club
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reportage and the overseas Press Club
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award for her coverage of African wars
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award for her coverage of African wars
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uh and she uh uh uh uh Robin Wright has
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uh and she uh uh uh uh Robin Wright has
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written eight books wow okay our second
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written eight books wow okay our second
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speaker is behind the scenes uh a great
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speaker is behind the scenes uh a great
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deal more uh Matthew mcginness is a
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deal more uh Matthew mcginness is a
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senior fellow at The Institute for the
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senior fellow at The Institute for the
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study of War he previously served as the
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study of War he previously served as the
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deputy special representative for Iran
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deputy special representative for Iran
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and as a member of policy planning at
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and as a member of policy planning at
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the US Department of State he was also a
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the US Department of State he was also a
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resident fellow at American Enterprise
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Institute in foreign events policy after
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serving for 15 years in the Department
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serving for 15 years in the Department
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of Defense as an intelligence officer
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of Defense as an intelligence officer
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and advisor on Middle East China and
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and advisor on Middle East China and
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nonproliferation uh uh uh issues uh and
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nonproliferation uh uh uh issues uh and
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uh we're very excited to have uh both of
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uh we're very excited to have uh both of
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these speak speaker it's now time for
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these speak speaker it's now time for
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the question and answer portion but
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before that uh the question answer
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before that uh the question answer
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portion is going to come from me that
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portion is going to come from me that
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was our uh Arrangement I'm going to ask
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was our uh Arrangement I'm going to ask
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one question and then we go out to
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one question and then we go out to
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everyone never done this quite as quick
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everyone never done this quite as quick
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as we're doing so again if you want to
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as we're doing so again if you want to
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get on that list this is a good time but
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get on that list this is a good time but
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I'm going to ask our two speakers where
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I'm going to ask our two speakers where
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are we now after these
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are we now after these
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two uh very important developments on
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two uh very important developments on
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the uh Israeli Palestinian front and I
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the uh Israeli Palestinian front and I
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will uh at the end I will uh invite Matt
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will uh at the end I will uh invite Matt
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first so I will ask Robin for first this
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first so I will ask Robin for first this
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time uh thanks so much Steve I'm
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time uh thanks so much Steve I'm
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delighted to be with you and I'm uh
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delighted to be with you and I'm uh
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particularly glad to be with Matt we
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particularly glad to be with Matt we
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always have an interesting back and
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always have an interesting back and
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forth uh so the twin attacks first by
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forth uh so the twin attacks first by
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Israel on an Iranian diplomatic facility
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Israel on an Iranian diplomatic facility
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in Damascus on April 1st followed by the
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in Damascus on April 1st followed by the
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Iranian retaliation stunning retaliation
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Iranian retaliation stunning retaliation
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uh against Israel on April
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uh against Israel on April
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14th um Israel they are contrast and
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14th um Israel they are contrast and
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Israel was extremely effective in
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Israel was extremely effective in
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eliminating three generals who led cobt
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eliminating three generals who led cobt
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operations by Iran in Syria and Lebanon
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operations by Iran in Syria and Lebanon
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uh they leveled a diplomatic facility
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uh they leveled a diplomatic facility
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that abutted the Syrian Embassy the
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that abutted the Syrian Embassy the
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Iranian Embassy in Syria um by contrast
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Iranian Embassy in Syria um by contrast
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the Iranian operation involving you know
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the Iranian operation involving you know
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more than 300 drones and missiles was an
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more than 300 drones and missiles was an
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utter failure the state department
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utter failure the state department
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called it um you know a spectacular
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called it um you know a spectacular
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failure an embarrassing failure the fact
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failure an embarrassing failure the fact
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that that Iran Unleashed so many weapons
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that that Iran Unleashed so many weapons
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and not a single one uh did significant
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and not a single one uh did significant
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damage uh did injure one child from
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damage uh did injure one child from
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shapol though it's not clear um shrapnel
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shapol though it's not clear um shrapnel
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from what but um so we're seeing a real
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from what but um so we're seeing a real
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imbalance I think one of the challenges
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imbalance I think one of the challenges
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is you know what happens next the two
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is you know what happens next the two
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countries have very different strategies
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countries have very different strategies
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Israel is playing the short game it's
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Israel is playing the short game it's
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very good at identifying challenges and
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very good at identifying challenges and
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preempting them either by uh physical
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preempting them either by uh physical
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attack or Cyber attack it has now proven
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attack or Cyber attack it has now proven
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its deterent capability with the help of
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its deterent capability with the help of
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the United States Britain France and
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the United States Britain France and
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Jordan um it has far superior military
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Jordan um it has far superior military
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capabilities um at the same time it's
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capabilities um at the same time it's
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not clear what its long-term strategy is
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not clear what its long-term strategy is
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in terms of what does it want does it
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in terms of what does it want does it
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want to see regime change in Iran does
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want to see regime change in Iran does
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it want to attack or prevent a nuclear
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it want to attack or prevent a nuclear
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facility in the short term is it willing
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facility in the short term is it willing
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to go that far and I worry that on the
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to go that far and I worry that on the
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Israeli side they have short-term goals
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Israeli side they have short-term goals
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and it's the same with Gaza you know
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and it's the same with Gaza you know
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there there's no visible or viable plan
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there there's no visible or viable plan
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to get out of the mess either in Gaza or
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to get out of the mess either in Gaza or
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the tensions with Iran in the meantime
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the tensions with Iran in the meantime
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Iran is playing a longer game it has uh
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Iran is playing a longer game it has uh
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since the revolution it went through an
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since the revolution it went through an
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an initial period of having uh purged
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an initial period of having uh purged
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the military having no capabilities and
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the military having no capabilities and
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having to fight an eight-year war with
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Iraq it has since develop developed an
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Iraq it has since develop developed an
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an extraordinary network of allies in
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an extraordinary network of allies in
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Lebanon Syria Iraq and Yemen it's been
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Lebanon Syria Iraq and Yemen it's been
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very effective in tapping into The
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very effective in tapping into The
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create militias that are non-state
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actors and are threats not just to
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actors and are threats not just to
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Israel but to the kind of strategic
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balance in in the region it's also
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balance in in the region it's also
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worked on its U missile
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worked on its U missile
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Arsenal it has now the largest and most
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Arsenal it has now the largest and most
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diverse missile Arsenal in the Middle
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diverse missile Arsenal in the Middle
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East the only country in the world that
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East the only country in the world that
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has a missile with a range of 200
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has a missile with a range of 200
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kilometers and doesn't also have a
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kilometers and doesn't also have a
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nuclear weapon um at the same time
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nuclear weapon um at the same time
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Iran's goals are totally unrealistic
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Iran's goals are totally unrealistic
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totally ineffective it claims to want to
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totally ineffective it claims to want to
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defeat defeat Israel and force US troops
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defeat defeat Israel and force US troops
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out of the Middle East and neither is
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out of the Middle East and neither is
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going to happen anytime soon in the same
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going to happen anytime soon in the same
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time you have the hardest line
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time you have the hardest line
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governments in both countries in Israel
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since the 1948 Independence and Iran
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1979 Revolution and there's no prospect
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that the political environment will
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that the political environment will
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change even if leaders do anytime soon
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change even if leaders do anytime soon
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so you have this growing tensions
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so you have this growing tensions
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increasingly Hardline governments with
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unrealistic goals in terms of stopping
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unrealistic goals in terms of stopping
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the other one completely and there in
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the other one completely and there in
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uh thank thanks Steve and uh always
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uh thank thanks Steve and uh always
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great to be on here with uh with you and
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great to be on here with uh with you and
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with Robin uh and I have to you know
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with Robin uh and I have to you know
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Echo most of what Robin said I think she
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Echo most of what Robin said I think she
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she captured really the the very unique
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she captured really the the very unique
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uh situation that we have right now uh
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uh situation that we have right now uh
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between Iran and Israel I think you know
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between Iran and Israel I think you know
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certainly from the uh the US perspective
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certainly from the uh the US perspective
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there was uh there was a lot of uh you
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there was uh there was a lot of uh you
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know concern uh as we saw the uh the
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know concern uh as we saw the uh the
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attack coming uh in sat uh Saturday but
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attack coming uh in sat uh Saturday but
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also frankly you know afterwards uh real
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also frankly you know afterwards uh real
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uh you know Pride that we we were able
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uh you know Pride that we we were able
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to prevent uh you know supporting Israel
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to prevent uh you know supporting Israel
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uh with our partners uh being able to
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uh with our partners uh being able to
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prevent you know almost 99% of of the
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prevent you know almost 99% of of the
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attack uh and I think for for us that is
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attack uh and I think for for us that is
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uh something that uh has really struck
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uh something that uh has really struck
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home about the effectiveness of not only
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home about the effectiveness of not only
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you know US military and Israeli milit
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you know US military and Israeli milit
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AR capabilities uh but also the the
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AR capabilities uh but also the the
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importance of of the Partnerships that
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importance of of the Partnerships that
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the US has uh in in the region uh and I
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the US has uh in in the region uh and I
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think that's one of the the biggest
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think that's one of the the biggest
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lessons coming out of it despite all the
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lessons coming out of it despite all the
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pressures on things like the Abraham
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pressures on things like the Abraham
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Accords after October 7th uh that when
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Accords after October 7th uh that when
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uh when the missiles started flying uh
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uh when the missiles started flying uh
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the uh the partners uh in really came
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the uh the partners uh in really came
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together uh in uh in supporting uh their
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together uh in uh in supporting uh their
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Mutual our in many ways our mutual
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Mutual our in many ways our mutual
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defense here in this situation uh and
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defense here in this situation uh and
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and then the other you know main thing
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and then the other you know main thing
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for us is also figuring out what are we
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for us is also figuring out what are we
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getting wrong about uh you know about
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getting wrong about uh you know about
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our assessments of Iranian calculations
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our assessments of Iranian calculations
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because I do think uh there was the the
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because I do think uh there was the the
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scope of the attack was beyond what uh
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scope of the attack was beyond what uh
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what most people anticipated uh so you
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what most people anticipated uh so you
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know we we have to think through what is
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know we we have to think through what is
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the the you know is there a new risk
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the the you know is there a new risk
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calculus uh right now uh in tran uh that
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calculus uh right now uh in tran uh that
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we uh that we don't fully understand uh
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we uh that we don't fully understand uh
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and I think this is one of the areas
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and I think this is one of the areas
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where where you know as much as we were
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where where you know as much as we were
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you know glad about our AB ability to
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you know glad about our AB ability to
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you know support Israel and its defense
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you know support Israel and its defense
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uh at the same time you know we we could
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uh at the same time you know we we could
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have had a really disastrous situation
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have had a really disastrous situation
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on Saturday it could have escalated uh
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on Saturday it could have escalated uh
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quite significantly especially if there
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quite significantly especially if there
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had been uh you know more loss of life
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had been uh you know more loss of life
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uh more damage to more sensitive
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uh more damage to more sensitive
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infrastructure uh so I think that we
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infrastructure uh so I think that we
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were still really on a knife's edge um
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were still really on a knife's edge um
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on Saturday and and that's the concern
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on Saturday and and that's the concern
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as we move forward we know that Israel
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as we move forward we know that Israel
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you know is is making clear that they
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you know is is making clear that they
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will they will almost certainly respond
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will they will almost certainly respond
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uh to this uh and then of course we
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uh to this uh and then of course we
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would you know the anticipation that you
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would you know the anticipation that you
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know Iran has made clear that it would
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know Iran has made clear that it would
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respond uh following uh any other uh
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respond uh following uh any other uh
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Israeli actions uh we the US has made
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Israeli actions uh we the US has made
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clear that we will not support uh uh
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clear that we will not support uh uh
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actual oper you know any counterattacked
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actual oper you know any counterattacked
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operations by the israelies we will
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operations by the israelies we will
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continue to support Israelis Israel's
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continue to support Israelis Israel's
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defense of course uh but I think we're
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defense of course uh but I think we're
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we're at the uh the point where you know
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we're at the uh the point where you know
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are are we miscalculating here have we
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are are we miscalculating here have we
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uh not fully you know ACC assessed uh
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uh not fully you know ACC assessed uh
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you know Iranian decision making the way
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you know Iranian decision making the way
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we should uh is Iran making significant
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we should uh is Iran making significant
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miscalculations um and there's also the
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miscalculations um and there's also the
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the big issue of how this is all shaping
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the big issue of how this is all shaping
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uh the Iranian uh proxy Dynamics within
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uh the Iranian uh proxy Dynamics within
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the axis of resistance uh the the
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the axis of resistance uh the the
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internal pressures that are happening
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internal pressures that are happening
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there uh between the proxies and the and
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there uh between the proxies and the and
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the the leadership in Tyron on uh who's
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the the leadership in Tyron on uh who's
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pushing whom to do what are some of
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pushing whom to do what are some of
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those really interesting questions that
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those really interesting questions that
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uh the last few weeks have raised um and
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uh the last few weeks have raised um and
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with that I will uh pause and look
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with that I will uh pause and look
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forward to the further
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forward to the further
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conversation all right uh thank you both
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conversation all right uh thank you both
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and we are exactly on time to begin our
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and we are exactly on time to begin our
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question I appreciate it now uh uh both
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question I appreciate it now uh uh both
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of you can answer these questions or um
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of you can answer these questions or um
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one of you whichever uh both feel uh
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one of you whichever uh both feel uh
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comfortable I hope at least one will uh
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comfortable I hope at least one will uh
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first we have a good friend who uh the
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first we have a good friend who uh the
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three of us know very well Antonia deu
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three of us know very well Antonia deu
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who is the uh at The Institute for
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who is the uh at The Institute for
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security and defense analyses in Greece
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security and defense analyses in Greece
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and has been working with our program
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and has been working with our program
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over 25 years uh uh I would um uh this
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over 25 years uh uh I would um uh this
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is her question what are the new
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is her question what are the new
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preconditions that the US Administration
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preconditions that the US Administration
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is expected to set for dealing with the
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is expected to set for dealing with the
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Iranian nuclear file after Iran's attack
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Iranian nuclear file after Iran's attack
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on Israel this is about the uh about the
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on Israel this is about the uh about the
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States uh so uh that's interesting uh
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States uh so uh that's interesting uh
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either of you want to go
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either of you want to go
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first I I see Matt writing so I'll uh
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first I I see Matt writing so I'll uh
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I'll weigh in just briefly I mean when
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I'll weigh in just briefly I mean when
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we talk about preconditions we're really
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we talk about preconditions we're really
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at a an impass here the J The Joint uh
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at a an impass here the J The Joint uh
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plan of action jcpoa is now more
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plan of action jcpoa is now more
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abundant it's obsolete the U Iran has
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abundant it's obsolete the U Iran has
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moved so far beyond and so many of the
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moved so far beyond and so many of the
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the steps that were uh outlined in the
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the steps that were uh outlined in the
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deal have been you know have been passed
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deal have been you know have been passed
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I mean the the deadlines have been the
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I mean the the deadlines have been the
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sunset Clauses as they call them uh
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sunset Clauses as they call them uh
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We've passed those and um I think the
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We've passed those and um I think the
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United States really is kind of in a in
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United States really is kind of in a in
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a conundra what does it do about Iran uh
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a conundra what does it do about Iran uh
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it's being it's been very clear
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it's being it's been very clear
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in uh in either condemning or Pro
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in uh in either condemning or Pro
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promising to prevent Iran from getting a
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promising to prevent Iran from getting a
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nuclear capability it's been obvious in
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nuclear capability it's been obvious in
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its support for Israel but the question
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its support for Israel but the question
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is how do you get how do you engage or
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is how do you get how do you engage or
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how do you do
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how do you do
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something
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something
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to ensure that Iran doesn't get a bomb I
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to ensure that Iran doesn't get a bomb I
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you know this is the problem the the
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you know this is the problem the the
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mood in especially in an election year
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mood in especially in an election year
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is the United States is currently not
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is the United States is currently not
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going to take anything and there are two
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going to take anything and there are two
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very different approaches uh between
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very different approaches uh between
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Republicans and Democrats do you take on
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Republicans and Democrats do you take on
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Iran and all the issues we have at at
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Iran and all the issues we have at at
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one time or do you take it on just on
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one time or do you take it on just on
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the nuclear issue hoping that once you
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the nuclear issue hoping that once you
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get the most dangerous element uh for
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get the most dangerous element uh for
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the United States and his allies off the
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the United States and his allies off the
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table that that you can make progress on
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table that that you can make progress on
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the other we've had very different
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the other we've had very different
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approaches um but both Republicans and
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approaches um but both Republicans and
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Democrats agree that the United States
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Democrats agree that the United States
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won't let Iran get the the bomb I don't
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won't let Iran get the the bomb I don't
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know how it does that now uh since
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know how it does that now uh since
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diplomacy is dead and the US certainly
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diplomacy is dead and the US certainly
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doesn't want to get engaged in a
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doesn't want to get engaged in a
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military con fullscale military
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confrontation with Iran that's one of
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confrontation with Iran that's one of
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the reasons we've said Israel um you're
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the reasons we've said Israel um you're
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on your own if you retaliate uh we will
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on your own if you retaliate uh we will
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not be part of it so this is you know
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not be part of it so this is you know
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when we talk about preconditions the one
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when we talk about preconditions the one
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thing the United States has done
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thing the United States has done
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today April 18th is imposed new
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today April 18th is imposed new
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sanctions it has been joined by br WR
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sanctions it has been joined by br WR
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and will be joined by the Europeans in
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and will be joined by the Europeans in
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the next few days the problem is the
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the next few days the problem is the
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Biden Administration has imposed uh more
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Biden Administration has imposed uh more
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than 600 sanctions on individuals and
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than 600 sanctions on individuals and
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entities the Trump Administration
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entities the Trump Administration
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imposed more than 1500 sanctions on
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imposed more than 1500 sanctions on
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individuals and entities including the
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individuals and entities including the
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entire revolutionary guard Corp
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entire revolutionary guard Corp
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something we didn't do to the entire you
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something we didn't do to the entire you
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know the Soviet Army we've you know this
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know the Soviet Army we've you know this
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is a very was a very unique step and yet
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is a very was a very unique step and yet
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it has had
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it has had
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absolutely well you can't say none no
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absolutely well you can't say none no
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impact but it's had limited impact on
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impact but it's had limited impact on
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Iran's capabilities Iran has learned how
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Iran's capabilities Iran has learned how
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to whether it's smug smuggle technology
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to whether it's smug smuggle technology
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or parts to you know and it has a a a
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or parts to you know and it has a a a
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robust defense capability in
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robust defense capability in
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manufacturing its own Weaponry now and
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manufacturing its own Weaponry now and
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so that's the problem what are the
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so that's the problem what are the
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options and unfortunately you know um
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options and unfortunately you know um
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there aren't any that are obvious or are
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there aren't any that are obvious or are
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likely to be successful in the near
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likely to be successful in the near
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future
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Matt yeah I mean what I would uh add is
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Matt yeah I mean what I would uh add is
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that there is you know you know part of
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that there is you know you know part of
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this is because we are in an election
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this is because we are in an election
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year it's going to be very difficult uh
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year it's going to be very difficult uh
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to move forward on really anything so I
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to move forward on really anything so I
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think you know the prospects uh for
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think you know the prospects uh for
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negotiations by the the US
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negotiations by the the US
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Administration um or the Iranians is is
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Administration um or the Iranians is is
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fairly limited uh I the at the same time
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fairly limited uh I the at the same time
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I think that there's you know the
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I think that there's you know the
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beginning uh thoughts about what may be
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beginning uh thoughts about what may be
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done in 2025 live uh whether we have a
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done in 2025 live uh whether we have a
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second Biden term or we have a new Trump
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second Biden term or we have a new Trump
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uh second Trump Administration uh
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uh second Trump Administration uh
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especially given that we're going to
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especially given that we're going to
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have the expiration of the uh of the
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have the expiration of the uh of the
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Snapback uh Clauses in October of 2025
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Snapback uh Clauses in October of 2025
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so there there's a certain window that's
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so there there's a certain window that's
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going to uh occur uh next year that I
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going to uh occur uh next year that I
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think folks need to be uh potentially
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think folks need to be uh potentially
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focused on uh so I think a lot of what's
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focused on uh so I think a lot of what's
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going to happen uh depending on how
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going to happen uh depending on how
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things play out uh you know on the m
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things play out uh you know on the m
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milary side and how things are going to
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milary side and how things are going to
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play out in Gaza how things are going to
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play out in Gaza how things are going to
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play out internally in Iran uh is is
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play out internally in Iran uh is is
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many ways kind of Prelude to what may or
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many ways kind of Prelude to what may or
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may not may may try to happen in 2025
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may not may may try to happen in 2025
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the other thing is you know I you know
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the other thing is you know I you know
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Robin points out rightly you know that
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Robin points out rightly you know that
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our divide that we've had inside US
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our divide that we've had inside US
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policy on whether to you know keep a a
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policy on whether to you know keep a a
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nuke only focus uh for negotiations or
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nuke only focus uh for negotiations or
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tie in some of the regional and and
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tie in some of the regional and and
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missile and and and drone and other
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missile and and and drone and other
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proliferation concerns uh and that's
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proliferation concerns uh and that's
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that's been a debate for for many years
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that's been a debate for for many years
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I think one of the challenges you know
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I think one of the challenges you know
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especially given uh the role that uh
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especially given uh the role that uh
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Iran has played uh not just in these
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Iran has played uh not just in these
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recent attacks uh and in supplying uh
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recent attacks uh and in supplying uh
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you know you know the houthis uh Hamas
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you know you know the houthis uh Hamas
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hisbah Etc with missiles and drones but
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hisbah Etc with missiles and drones but
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also what they've been doing with Russia
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also what they've been doing with Russia
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over the last couple of years um has
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over the last couple of years um has
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kind of changed the equation for the
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kind of changed the equation for the
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ability to really separate these uh
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ability to really separate these uh
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especially the proliferation the
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especially the proliferation the
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conventional proliferation concerns from
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conventional proliferation concerns from
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the nuclear uh file uh and I think
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the nuclear uh file uh and I think
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certainly many of our European Partners
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certainly many of our European Partners
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uh you know from what they've seen of of
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uh you know from what they've seen of of
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Iran's role in the Ukraine War uh it's
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Iran's role in the Ukraine War uh it's
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just made it very difficult to to think
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just made it very difficult to to think
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about how do you separate these issues
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about how do you separate these issues
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now um and not saying they couldn't be
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now um and not saying they couldn't be
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but I I think that there is a a broader
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but I I think that there is a a broader
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perception that the uh it's it's
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perception that the uh it's it's
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increasingly difficult to
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increasingly difficult to
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disentangle uh the regional
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disentangle uh the regional
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proliferation uh conventional
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proliferation uh conventional
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proliferation concerns and the nuclear
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proliferation concerns and the nuclear
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uh file uh so I think that's one of the
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uh file uh so I think that's one of the
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things that is is still really uh a
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things that is is still really uh a
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major challenge for whoever uh is in
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major challenge for whoever uh is in
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power in
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power in
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2025 can I add what something real
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2025 can I add what something real
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quickly because I think Matt a really
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quickly because I think Matt a really
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important Point um one first of all just
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important Point um one first of all just
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to Define Snapback sanctions this is
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to Define Snapback sanctions this is
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something that if one of the parties one
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something that if one of the parties one
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of the six major parties to the deal um
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of the six major parties to the deal um
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invokes sanctions that the other five
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invokes sanctions that the other five
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have to as well and that's really
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have to as well and that's really
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important the ability uh of the world to
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important the ability uh of the world to
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to you know under terms they had agreed
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to you know under terms they had agreed
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to before all act in concert now that
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to before all act in concert now that
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plays into something else Matt said
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plays into something else Matt said
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which is really important and that's the
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which is really important and that's the
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global divide in between 2013 and 2015
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global divide in between 2013 and 2015
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you saw the world's six major Powers
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you saw the world's six major Powers
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agree on something even as Russia was
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agree on something even as Russia was
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invading Crimea Russia or China um
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invading Crimea Russia or China um
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Britain France Germany and the United
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Britain France Germany and the United
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States negot NE iated tortured tortured
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States negot NE iated tortured tortured
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negotiations sometimes to come up with I
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negotiations sometimes to come up with I
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think it was 159 pages of terms and
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think it was 159 pages of terms and
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today you see a very different global
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today you see a very different global
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environment where China and Russia are
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environment where China and Russia are
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siding with Iran they did at the special
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siding with Iran they did at the special
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un session at the security Council on
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un session at the security Council on
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Sunday uh they're blaming Israel for
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Sunday uh they're blaming Israel for
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starting this kind of it's more than a
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starting this kind of it's more than a
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tit fortat but this series of escalatory
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tit fortat but this series of escalatory
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steps and the idea that you'd have this
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steps and the idea that you'd have this
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the world's six major power ever speak
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the world's six major power ever speak
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together again at least anytime soon is
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together again at least anytime soon is
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you know just not going to
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you know just not going to
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happen such an important Point um well
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happen such an important Point um well
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uh we have a lot of questions coming in
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uh we have a lot of questions coming in
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as expected but I'm going to keep for a
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as expected but I'm going to keep for a
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little while uh the Iranian questions
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little while uh the Iranian questions
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that are coming in and next is uh
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that are coming in and next is uh
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Professor Joyce glanced at UCLA and the
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Professor Joyce glanced at UCLA and the
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question is uh although I understand
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question is uh although I understand
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that Iran's political structure must be
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that Iran's political structure must be
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eradicated how do we protect the good
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eradicated how do we protect the good
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population of Iran who hate their
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population of Iran who hate their
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governments I'm happy to jump in I often
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governments I'm happy to jump in I often
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I also wanted to defer to Matt any on
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I also wanted to defer to Matt any on
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any issue um look one of the great
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any issue um look one of the great
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challenges
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challenges
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is is dealing with Iran not just its
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is is dealing with Iran not just its
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leadership how do we try to factor in
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leadership how do we try to factor in
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the entire population the rule of of
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the entire population the rule of of
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thumb in political science is that a
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thumb in political science is that a
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dictator an auto autocrat an
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dictator an auto autocrat an
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authoritarian needs 30% of the
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authoritarian needs 30% of the
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population to back it um to man the
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population to back it um to man the
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security forces to pay at least
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security forces to pay at least
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partially taxes um and to run the
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partially taxes um and to run the
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bureaucracy uh I've thought for a number
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bureaucracy uh I've thought for a number
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of years that Iran was hovering on the
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of years that Iran was hovering on the
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cusp of that 30% I think it may be a
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cusp of that 30% I think it may be a
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little bit less now the reality is that
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little bit less now the reality is that
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the
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inspiring demonstrations we saw in
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inspiring demonstrations we saw in
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2022 uh over the issue of hijab personal
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2022 uh over the issue of hijab personal
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freedoms and event and eventually you
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freedoms and event and eventually you
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know challenges to the the regime itself
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know challenges to the the regime itself
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uh didn't have the kind of network
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uh didn't have the kind of network
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resources
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platform um you know game plan they knew
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platform um you know game plan they knew
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what they were against and now what they
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what they were against and now what they
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were for this is an evolutionary process
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were for this is an evolutionary process
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and the danger is that if outside Powers
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and the danger is that if outside Powers
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try to go in and dictate you know know
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try to go in and dictate you know know
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who should be in power or facilitate
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who should be in power or facilitate
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regime change that we're back in that
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regime change that we're back in that
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cycle that we were in after
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cycle that we were in after
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1953 when the US and Britain helped
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1953 when the US and Britain helped
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orchestrate a coup against a
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orchestrate a coup against a
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democratically elected government so
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democratically elected government so
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this is the conundrum uh diplomatically
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this is the conundrum uh diplomatically
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in terms of policy going forward uh I I
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in terms of policy going forward uh I I
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have a new piece in the New Yorker today
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have a new piece in the New Yorker today
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about a a wonderful film about a single
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about a a wonderful film about a single
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act of descent it's a it's a short
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act of descent it's a it's a short
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called the smallest power and about one
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called the smallest power and about one
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woman who did one a thing during those
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woman who did one a thing during those
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protests and how it changed her view
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protests and how it changed her view
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before she had wanted to leave Iran she
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before she had wanted to leave Iran she
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learned she had a medical degree she
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learned she had a medical degree she
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learned to speak English fluently but
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learned to speak English fluently but
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after the protest in which she carried
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after the protest in which she carried
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out one small act she decided she didn't
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out one small act she decided she didn't
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want to leave that she wanted to fight
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want to leave that she wanted to fight
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for her country and it's how do we do
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for her country and it's how do we do
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things that don't dictate but help
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things that don't dictate but help
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nurture without getting involved the
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nurture without getting involved the
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population so they can decide what their
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population so they can decide what their
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own future
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own future
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is um Matt do you want to get in on this
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is um Matt do you want to get in on this
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or should we move on whatever you say uh
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or should we move on whatever you say uh
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no I I think Robin makes some great
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no I I think Robin makes some great
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points there I think we have uh we we
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points there I think we have uh we we
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have focused uh so much on how to
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have focused uh so much on how to
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support the Iranian people and we're not
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support the Iranian people and we're not
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always to be frank know exactly what we
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always to be frank know exactly what we
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need to do uh obviously we have many
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need to do uh obviously we have many
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efforts uh ongoing quickly out of the
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efforts uh ongoing quickly out of the
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state department uh to support Civil
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state department uh to support Civil
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Society uh and uh and and and support
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Society uh and uh and and and support
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the Irani people you know free you know
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the Irani people you know free you know
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getting around uh internet blockages Etc
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getting around uh internet blockages Etc
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that there's all sorts of ways that we
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that there's all sorts of ways that we
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can help the Iranian people frankly be
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can help the Iranian people frankly be
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able to make uh their own choices and be
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able to make uh their own choices and be
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able to have their own their voices
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able to have their own their voices
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heard and and and be able to pressure
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heard and and and be able to pressure
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the the leadership from within uh but at
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the the leadership from within uh but at
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the same time you know this is something
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the same time you know this is something
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that really needs to come from the
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that really needs to come from the
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Iranian people uh and you know we need
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Iranian people uh and you know we need
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to show our our support and solidarity
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to show our our support and solidarity
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uh but it is very challenging to to
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uh but it is very challenging to to
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Think Through uh more radical options
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Think Through uh more radical options
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otherwise so I'll leave it at
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otherwise so I'll leave it at
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that well uh we're gonna have another uh
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that well uh we're gonna have another uh
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another Aran question uh and then move
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another Aran question uh and then move
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on to some other issues that people are
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on to some other issues that people are
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uh bringing uh to uh the discussion but
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uh bringing uh to uh the discussion but
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uh Professor Alin also of UCLA uh ask
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uh Professor Alin also of UCLA uh ask
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the following uh I wouldn't want to be
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the following uh I wouldn't want to be
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having to ask answer this look into your
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having to ask answer this look into your
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Crystal all one year from now will Iran
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Crystal all one year from now will Iran
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be the main focus of our foreign policy
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be the main focus of our foreign policy
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in the Middle East and not the war in
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in the Middle East and not the war in
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Gaza no it's an interesting question
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Gaza no it's an interesting question
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because uh you know obviously that could
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because uh you know obviously that could
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be very uh could be very different
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be very uh could be very different
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depending on who is elected in November
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depending on who is elected in November
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uh even though I think frankly uh either
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uh even though I think frankly uh either
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Biden uh or Trump uh are going to have
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Biden uh or Trump uh are going to have
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an approach where they they do not want
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an approach where they they do not want
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major expansion of of conflict in the
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major expansion of of conflict in the
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region uh so that that that pull away
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region uh so that that that pull away
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from the Middle East which for better
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from the Middle East which for better
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for worse has been uh President Biden's
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for worse has been uh President Biden's
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approach I think that there is you know
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approach I think that there is you know
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you know very fair criticism that a
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you know very fair criticism that a
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little too much neglect or desire to
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little too much neglect or desire to
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pull away uh at the same time I I think
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pull away uh at the same time I I think
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a president Trump uh is is certainly
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a president Trump uh is is certainly
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going to want to to move quickly to kind
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going to want to to move quickly to kind
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of I I don't say calm down or or try to
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of I I don't say calm down or or try to
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fix the the situation uh but I I also
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fix the the situation uh but I I also
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really doubt that that he's going to
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really doubt that that he's going to
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want major escalations uh you know in
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want major escalations uh you know in
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the region uh immediately uh so I think
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the region uh immediately uh so I think
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that that you know this time of you know
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that that you know this time of you know
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this time next year we're going to be in
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this time next year we're going to be in
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a state of of flux on our policy uh in
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a state of of flux on our policy uh in
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in trying to figure out what's the next
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in trying to figure out what's the next
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steps for either Biden to or for Trump
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steps for either Biden to or for Trump
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to uh but I I think that the uh my
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to uh but I I think that the uh my
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expectation is that the Gaza situation
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expectation is that the Gaza situation
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will likely have have died down uh by
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will likely have have died down uh by
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then uh and I think that that it's more
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then uh and I think that that it's more
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likely we are going to have a greater
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likely we are going to have a greater
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focus on Iran at that
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focus on Iran at that
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point
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point
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relatively I would have said the
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relatively I would have said the
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same so I'd probably take a slightly
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same so I'd probably take a slightly
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different Tech I don't think that Hamas
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different Tech I don't think that Hamas
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is going to disappear even if its
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is going to disappear even if its
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leadership is decapitated its Arsenal
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leadership is decapitated its Arsenal
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destroyed that this is an idea and one
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destroyed that this is an idea and one
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of the things that's been
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of the things that's been
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striking is that there are many people
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striking is that there are many people
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across the
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across the
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region I've found anyway who disapprove
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region I've found anyway who disapprove
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of hamas's tactics don't like its
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of hamas's tactics don't like its
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ideology but see it as the only force
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ideology but see it as the only force
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that is acting on behalf of the
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that is acting on behalf of the
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Palestinians they see it as the
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Palestinians they see it as the
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resistance uh even if we in the outside
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resistance uh even if we in the outside
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world look at it very differently and
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world look at it very differently and
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and I think with the destruction that's
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and I think with the destruction that's
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happened in Gaza um that the focus will
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happened in Gaza um that the focus will
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be on either rebuilding building or you
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be on either rebuilding building or you
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know finding a solution the problem is
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know finding a solution the problem is
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you know all the ideas that the United
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you know all the ideas that the United
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States has put forward about who rules
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States has put forward about who rules
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in Gaza after a war uh who's in charge
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in Gaza after a war uh who's in charge
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of of security all these questions don't
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of of security all these questions don't
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have
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have
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takers uh or don't have buyin from
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takers uh or don't have buyin from
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either side and so there's a danger that
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either side and so there's a danger that
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that this fers on in a way and it's
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that this fers on in a way and it's
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obviously related to whe it's what the
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obviously related to whe it's what the
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houthis are doing in the Red Sea and
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houthis are doing in the Red Sea and
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disrupting International Trade what
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disrupting International Trade what
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hisbah is doing on the border what uh
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hisbah is doing on the border what uh
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the groups in Iraq and Syria have done
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the groups in Iraq and Syria have done
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all of them say they will not stop until
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all of them say they will not stop until
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the end of the war in Gaza and so in
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the end of the war in Gaza and so in
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many ways both what happens in Gaza and
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many ways both what happens in Gaza and
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happens in Iran are absolutely related
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happens in Iran are absolutely related
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and I think Matt made an important point
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and I think Matt made an important point
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we're going to be in flux whoever uh is
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we're going to be in flux whoever uh is
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in power a year from now because
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in power a year from now because
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remember uh after the inauguration it
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remember uh after the inauguration it
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takes months to get officials confirmed
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takes months to get officials confirmed
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there's likely to be changes in senior
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there's likely to be changes in senior
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positions in the second term
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positions in the second term
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of either man and so the idea that we
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of either man and so the idea that we
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can push forward simply after an
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can push forward simply after an
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inauguration is an illusion uh this is
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inauguration is an illusion uh this is
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going to be I think a
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going to be I think a
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complicated issue now the one of the big
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complicated issue now the one of the big
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questions is what is it going to take
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questions is what is it going to take
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for the main focus of the United States
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for the main focus of the United States
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to shift you know does chy to do
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to shift you know does chy to do
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something on Taiwan um do we see some
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something on Taiwan um do we see some
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turning point in the war in Ukraine um
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turning point in the war in Ukraine um
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or Beyond uh and so there are ways that
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or Beyond uh and so there are ways that
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other factors because they are become
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other factors because they are become
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more dynamic or more immediate overtake
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more dynamic or more immediate overtake
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it but I think the idea that we're going
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it but I think the idea that we're going
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to solve either problem in Gaza or Iran
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to solve either problem in Gaza or Iran
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um within the next year in a way that
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um within the next year in a way that
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satisfies all that uh calms down and re
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satisfies all that uh calms down and re
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stabilizes well it's never been stable
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stabilizes well it's never been stable
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but stabilizes the situation in the
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but stabilizes the situation in the
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Middle East I don't see it but I want to
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Middle East I don't see it but I want to
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tell you I really really hope I'm wrong
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tell you I really really hope I'm wrong
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well that's interesting ending
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well that's interesting ending
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um but we did hear two different
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um but we did hear two different
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versions which is so helpful uh uh to
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versions which is so helpful uh uh to
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all of us uh now we're going to step a
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all of us uh now we're going to step a
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little bit away from where we've been
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little bit away from where we've been
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but not from UCA uh Warren funy who's a
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but not from UCA uh Warren funy who's a
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uh major figure in our Institute I uh
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uh major figure in our Institute I uh
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he's got a question and it goes like
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he's got a question and it goes like
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this in light of recent events do you
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this in light of recent events do you
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feel there is a strong chance that both
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feel there is a strong chance that both
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Jordan and Egypt who both have
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Jordan and Egypt who both have
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long-standing treaties with Israel could
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long-standing treaties with Israel could
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face protests that reach the level of
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face protests that reach the level of
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the 2010 2011 Arab Spring protests if
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the 2010 2011 Arab Spring protests if
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they reach this level what are the
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they reach this level what are the
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chances that one or both countries
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chances that one or both countries
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revoke their treaties with Israel given
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revoke their treaties with Israel given
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that in both countries the treaties are
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that in both countries the treaties are
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unpopular with the general
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unpopular with the general
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population I can uh take it uh yeah I
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population I can uh take it uh yeah I
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think the uh there obviously is great
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think the uh there obviously is great
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concern uh on the Jordanian side right
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concern uh on the Jordanian side right
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now uh I mean Egypt has you know ever
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now uh I mean Egypt has you know ever
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since October 7th the the concerns that
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since October 7th the the concerns that
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Egypt may feel or feel it has to be
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Egypt may feel or feel it has to be
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forced to re-evaluate uh its treaty with
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forced to re-evaluate uh its treaty with
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Israel I think that's been a steady
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Israel I think that's been a steady
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thing but I I think the events of this
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thing but I I think the events of this
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past weekend um are putting very
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past weekend um are putting very
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significant pressure uh on Jordan uh and
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significant pressure uh on Jordan uh and
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uh and the uh and the pressure from you
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uh and the uh and the pressure from you
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know the domestic population of which as
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know the domestic population of which as
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most of you know a large portion of that
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most of you know a large portion of that
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is Palestinian so that is certainly a
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is Palestinian so that is certainly a
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concern of the you know that I think the
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concern of the you know that I think the
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US Administration has uh I don't think
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US Administration has uh I don't think
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you're going to hit a point where either
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you're going to hit a point where either
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side uh is going to want to abgate or
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side uh is going to want to abgate or
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pull out of their respective treaties
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pull out of their respective treaties
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with Israel I think that would be a
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with Israel I think that would be a
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pretty extreme situation for either of
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pretty extreme situation for either of
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them but I do think that they both risk
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them but I do think that they both risk
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um pretty uh pretty significant uh
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um pretty uh pretty significant uh
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domestic stability uh if this situation
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domestic stability uh if this situation
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as as Robin was describing in the last
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as as Robin was describing in the last
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question uh you know that that we have
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question uh you know that that we have
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this ongoing uh fight in uh you know
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this ongoing uh fight in uh you know
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even if we ended quote unquote major you
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even if we ended quote unquote major you
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know combat operations or uh or whatever
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know combat operations or uh or whatever
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inside Gaza that there's going to be
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inside Gaza that there's going to be
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longstanding um you know continued
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longstanding um you know continued
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military counterterrorism
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military counterterrorism
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counterinsurgency rebuilding uh
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counterinsurgency rebuilding uh
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political infighting you
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political infighting you
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know a situation that and of course a
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know a situation that and of course a
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humanitarian situation that will s
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humanitarian situation that will s
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continue all these things could be going
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continue all these things could be going
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on uh for for an indefinite amount of
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on uh for for an indefinite amount of
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time uh and so I that that for me is is
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time uh and so I that that for me is is
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I'm worried about the domestic I'm not
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I'm worried about the domestic I'm not
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as worried ultimately about the Treaty
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as worried ultimately about the Treaty
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pressures so I agree with Matt uh but I
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pressures so I agree with Matt uh but I
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do think I mean remember 2010 2011 were
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do think I mean remember 2010 2011 were
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against uh autocratic leaders and it's
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against uh autocratic leaders and it's
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now harder particularly in Egypt to
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now harder particularly in Egypt to
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protest because people whether it's in
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protest because people whether it's in
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Independent Media or quazi Independent
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Independent Media or quazi Independent
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Media um protesters dissident a lot of
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Media um protesters dissident a lot of
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them have been locked up silenced
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them have been locked up silenced
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harassed intimidated uh we're in a very
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harassed intimidated uh we're in a very
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different kind of world uh in in the
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different kind of world uh in in the
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aftermath of the apring for the same
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aftermath of the apring for the same
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reason that the Iranians protests in
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reason that the Iranians protests in
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2022 didn't work because again these
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2022 didn't work because again these
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were predominantly young people without
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were predominantly young people without
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a platform without the resources without
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a platform without the resources without
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the network without the you know they
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the network without the you know they
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didn't have parties they didn't know
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didn't have parties they didn't know
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they knew what they were against and not
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they knew what they were against and not
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what they were for I don't see that
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what they were for I don't see that
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happening soon but I think there are
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happening soon but I think there are
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other factors that are going to lead to
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other factors that are going to lead to
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destabilization and challenge
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destabilization and challenge
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governments and I think what's happening
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governments and I think what's happening
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in the West Bank we can't forget that
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in the West Bank we can't forget that
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the number of people who've been killed
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the number of people who've been killed
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in Israeli raids the number of people
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in Israeli raids the number of people
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who've been arrested the the settler
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who've been arrested the the settler
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violence that has uh escalated tensions
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violence that has uh escalated tensions
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in the region uh this is you know this
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in the region uh this is you know this
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is adding to the
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is adding to the
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challenges uh both of the moment and of
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challenges uh both of the moment and of
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the future and I you know um speaking of
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the future and I you know um speaking of
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Aging leadership mmud Abbas is what 86
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Aging leadership mmud Abbas is what 86
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87 um that's been in power two decades
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87 um that's been in power two decades
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and hasn't allowed an
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and hasn't allowed an
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election um to take place and so there
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election um to take place and so there
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are other things that will inflame I
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are other things that will inflame I
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think the the Arab populations and the
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think the the Arab populations and the
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question is how far they willing to go
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question is how far they willing to go
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um uh to make their voices heard and so
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um uh to make their voices heard and so
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I think again and when we we we can tend
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I think again and when we we we can tend
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to be kind of siloed in this problem
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to be kind of siloed in this problem
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Gaza and then this problem Iran but that
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Gaza and then this problem Iran but that
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there is a potential for wider just one
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there is a potential for wider just one
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thing quickly to add and that is that
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thing quickly to add and that is that
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you see Arab governments taking sides uh
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you see Arab governments taking sides uh
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Jordan participated there are reports
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Jordan participated there are reports
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that there are other Arab countries who
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that there are other Arab countries who
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may have engaged but didn't want their
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may have engaged but didn't want their
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names out there to reflect their role in
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names out there to reflect their role in
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um deflecting uh Iran's attack so that's
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um deflecting uh Iran's attack so that's
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an interesting Dynamic too and how far
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an interesting Dynamic too and how far
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does that
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does that
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go that's a very interesting uh point
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go that's a very interesting uh point
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and I think myself that that we don't
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and I think myself that that we don't
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know all the all the countries but I'll
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know all the all the countries but I'll
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leave at that and now we're going to go
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leave at that and now we're going to go
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to a very interesting uh question from M
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to a very interesting uh question from M
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abua from who is from Gaza
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abua from who is from Gaza
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although uh was able to get out of it
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although uh was able to get out of it
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for the at the present time uh a very uh
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for the at the present time uh a very uh
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complex story anyway Dr Robin just
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complex story anyway Dr Robin just
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indicated the US policy and sanctions
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indicated the US policy and sanctions
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have limited impact on
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have limited impact on
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Iran the question is what policy should
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Iran the question is what policy should
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the US adopt to put more pressure on
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the US adopt to put more pressure on
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Iran or do you think that it's about
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Iran or do you think that it's about
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time to switch gears toward Iran before
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time to switch gears toward Iran before
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the whole middle east region is on fire
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the whole middle east region is on fire
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you should be first on this since you're
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you should be first on this since you're
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mentioned here Robin if your game well I
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mentioned here Robin if your game well I
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kind of answered that before and that is
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kind of answered that before and that is
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you know the US has limited options here
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you know the US has limited options here
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we have two ba basic toolkits in uh our
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we have two ba basic toolkits in uh our
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Arsenal diplom or our military and
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Arsenal diplom or our military and
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diplomatic Arsenal uh one is sanctions
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diplomatic Arsenal uh one is sanctions
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and which we've used extensively and and
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and which we've used extensively and and
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to limited impact and the other is
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to limited impact and the other is
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military um and we have been willing to
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military um and we have been willing to
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to go only so far with the military
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to go only so far with the military
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option I don't think we're willing
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option I don't think we're willing
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anytime in the near future to go much
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anytime in the near future to go much
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further and that's what the conundrum is
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further and that's what the conundrum is
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for for Washington uh how do you have
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for for Washington uh how do you have
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influence remember the United States
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influence remember the United States
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can't do things alone that have the kind
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can't do things alone that have the kind
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of sweeping attack on Iran in uh from
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of sweeping attack on Iran in uh from
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2003 to 2006 I think it was or 2010 to
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2003 to 2006 I think it was or 2010 to
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2013 we we we engaged in a number of
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2013 we we we engaged in a number of
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sanctions but we did it with the
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sanctions but we did it with the
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International Community through the
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International Community through the
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United Nations and that then ultimately
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United Nations and that then ultimately
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played a major role in getting Iran to
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played a major role in getting Iran to
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the negotiating table in 2013
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the negotiating table in 2013
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uh today we have been predominantly
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uh today we have been predominantly
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alone for years we've been predominantly
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alone for years we've been predominantly
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alone now you see Britain signing on to
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alone now you see Britain signing on to
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some the Europeans perhaps next week but
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some the Europeans perhaps next week but
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are they going to be the kind of big
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are they going to be the kind of big
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things that will make Iran rethink its
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things that will make Iran rethink its
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strategy particularly when it believes
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strategy particularly when it believes
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that it's under Fire that there are
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that it's under Fire that there are
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existential threats to the regime when
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existential threats to the regime when
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it faces a political turning point and
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it faces a political turning point and
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so I wish there were a simple answer I
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so I wish there were a simple answer I
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think the United States you know has
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think the United States you know has
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tried to say Israel use restraint take
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tried to say Israel use restraint take
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this as a win you know let's stop but
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this as a win you know let's stop but
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Israel feels differently and under prime
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Israel feels differently and under prime
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minister Netanyahu Israel has um taken a
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minister Netanyahu Israel has um taken a
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much tougher
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much tougher
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course uh
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course uh
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Matt yeah I I think you know again
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Matt yeah I I think you know again
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sanctions sanctions work to a point when
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sanctions sanctions work to a point when
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there is a there's a policy objective
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there is a there's a policy objective
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tied to it and that there are uh clear
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tied to it and that there are uh clear
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there there there I don't sayur is not
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there there there I don't sayur is not
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the right word there understanding that
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the right word there understanding that
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uh you know sanctions will be relieved
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uh you know sanctions will be relieved
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uh if certain policy changes are made uh
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uh if certain policy changes are made uh
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and I think that you know the challenge
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and I think that you know the challenge
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in as someone obviously that was very
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in as someone obviously that was very
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much involved in the maximum pressure
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much involved in the maximum pressure
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campaign in the last Administration you
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campaign in the last Administration you
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know I I try to remind uh folks that it
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know I I try to remind uh folks that it
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it is a the the purpose of the sanctions
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it is a the the purpose of the sanctions
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in in reality was you know was to get
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in in reality was you know was to get
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Iran to the point of wanting to
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Iran to the point of wanting to
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negotiate again uh for a new deal which
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negotiate again uh for a new deal which
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is what president Trump wanted uh and I
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is what president Trump wanted uh and I
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think you know there was obviously some
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think you know there was obviously some
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internal debates over over the years
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internal debates over over the years
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about you know how how much pressure is
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about you know how how much pressure is
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needed in order to get the right amount
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needed in order to get the right amount
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of Leverage to get the right position
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of Leverage to get the right position
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for the right types of
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for the right types of
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negotiations um and I think you know
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negotiations um and I think you know
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when you when you look at that like the
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when you when you look at that like the
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same thing with the sanctions regime
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same thing with the sanctions regime
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that uh that was established beginning
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that uh that was established beginning
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uh in the George W bush years and
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uh in the George W bush years and
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certainly expanded uh during President
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certainly expanded uh during President
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Obama's term as Rob was discussing with
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Obama's term as Rob was discussing with
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with uh Partners allies the rest of the
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with uh Partners allies the rest of the
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the
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the
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UNSC uh that you know you know you need
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UNSC uh that you know you know you need
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that kind of pressure as part of of of
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that kind of pressure as part of of of
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but it can't be the only thing it needs
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but it can't be the only thing it needs
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to be part of you know diplomatic
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to be part of you know diplomatic
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efforts that are uh oriented towards you
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efforts that are uh oriented towards you
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know isolating or pressuring or
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know isolating or pressuring or
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encouraging um Iran to take certain
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encouraging um Iran to take certain
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policy steps as well as frankly to you
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policy steps as well as frankly to you
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know demonstrate that that there's going
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know demonstrate that that there's going
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to be uh you know potential military
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to be uh you know potential military
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consequences uh at the the far end of
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consequences uh at the the far end of
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this that if there is you know if Ty
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this that if there is you know if Ty
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we're talking about the nuclear program
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we're talking about the nuclear program
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and the moves towards a nuclear weapon
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and the moves towards a nuclear weapon
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uh if we see that we're committed to uh
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uh if we see that we're committed to uh
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you know preventing that that's
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you know preventing that that's
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something that's been our policy uh you
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something that's been our policy uh you
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know certainly the the British and the
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know certainly the the British and the
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French's policy for a long time the
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French's policy for a long time the
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Israeli policy uh so you know we we have
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Israeli policy uh so you know we we have
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to be able to use the Diplomatic the
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to be able to use the Diplomatic the
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economic and the military uh and and
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economic and the military uh and and
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find the right way uh to uh to pressure
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find the right way uh to uh to pressure
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as well as encourage uh and that's
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as well as encourage uh and that's
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that's a real challenge to do and I
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that's a real challenge to do and I
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think right now you know given uh all
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think right now you know given uh all
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the the success and failures we've had
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the the success and failures we've had
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over the past you know 20 you know 15 10
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over the past you know 20 you know 15 10
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10 15 20 years uh I think that you know
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10 15 20 years uh I think that you know
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for us right now we are in a stage of of
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for us right now we are in a stage of of
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uh frankly trying to contain the issue
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uh frankly trying to contain the issue
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uh as much as possible uh and uh and and
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uh as much as possible uh and uh and and
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basic and try to encourage the region
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basic and try to encourage the region
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itself to you know further integrate
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itself to you know further integrate
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further cooperate uh and as you know
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further cooperate uh and as you know
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maybe we're never going to get to
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maybe we're never going to get to
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Collective Security but I think the more
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Collective Security but I think the more
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that that is shown as we've seen this
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that that is shown as we've seen this
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past weekend that the the region is not
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past weekend that the the region is not
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you know is not going to find Iran's uh
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you know is not going to find Iran's uh
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military activities and Military
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military activities and Military
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pressure uh acceptable I think that's
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pressure uh acceptable I think that's
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going to help uh you know I think push
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going to help uh you know I think push
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Iran to to rethink a bit about how it's
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Iran to to rethink a bit about how it's
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been postured regionally which I think
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been postured regionally which I think
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is is is a First Step at least on that
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is is is a First Step at least on that
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on that part of the pathway
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on that part of the pathway
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well we have a very interesting question
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well we have a very interesting question
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from Sari of the University of uh
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from Sari of the University of uh
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College London and she was for several
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College London and she was for several
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years uh uh assistance for us uh at Co
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years uh uh assistance for us uh at Co
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assuming Iran knows the strength of the
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assuming Iran knows the strength of the
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Iran Dome did they really expect the
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Iran Dome did they really expect the
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missiles to cause mass destruction in
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missiles to cause mass destruction in
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Israel or were there other intentions
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Israel or were there other intentions
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can we believe Iranian officials when
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can we believe Iranian officials when
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they say they don't intend to to
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they say they don't intend to to
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this yeah I I can take uh the first stab
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this yeah I I can take uh the first stab
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of that I think it's it's you know it's
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of that I think it's it's you know it's
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interesting we of course the Iranians
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interesting we of course the Iranians
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have been trying to understand and the
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have been trying to understand and the
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the Iron Dome as well as David sling and
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the Iron Dome as well as David sling and
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the and the rest of the uh the
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the and the rest of the uh the
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integrated air and missile defense
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integrated air and missile defense
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capacity that Israel has you know they
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capacity that Israel has you know they
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they've been studying it for a long time
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they've been studying it for a long time
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uh and so it's an it's a very intriguing
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uh and so it's an it's a very intriguing
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question of why uh did they did they
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question of why uh did they did they
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under estimate uh the the strength of
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under estimate uh the the strength of
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that and certainly so much of what we've
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that and certainly so much of what we've
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seen over the years from Iranian
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seen over the years from Iranian
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exercises what we we think we know about
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exercises what we we think we know about
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their Doctrine you know certainly in
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their Doctrine you know certainly in
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what they've been working with hisbah
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what they've been working with hisbah
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and more recently the houthis and others
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and more recently the houthis and others
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you know is this saturation idea of how
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you know is this saturation idea of how
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do you uh overload uh the iron system uh
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do you uh overload uh the iron system uh
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to the point where you know it just it
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to the point where you know it just it
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can't uh it can't handle repeated salvos
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can't uh it can't handle repeated salvos
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of of of these types of uh munitions and
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of of of these types of uh munitions and
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I think that the the Iranians were ex my
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I think that the the Iranians were ex my
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guess is that they were expecting to
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guess is that they were expecting to
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have much more penetration uh in fact
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have much more penetration uh in fact
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one of the things that you know we're um
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one of the things that you know we're um
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looking at my my home institution at at
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looking at my my home institution at at
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at Institute for study of war is looking
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at Institute for study of war is looking
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at what the kind of the learning that
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at what the kind of the learning that
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may be going on uh you know between
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may be going on uh you know between
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Russia and Iran in the Ukraine theater
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Russia and Iran in the Ukraine theater
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uh and uh and really try to understand
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uh and uh and really try to understand
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you know our you know the kind of rates
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you know our you know the kind of rates
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of penetration that the Shahed and and
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of penetration that the Shahed and and
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the other Iranian drones are having
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the other Iranian drones are having
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against uh Ukraine as well as with the
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against uh Ukraine as well as with the
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with the missiles you know at much
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with the missiles you know at much
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higher penetration you know where they
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higher penetration you know where they
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could and perhaps they were you know
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could and perhaps they were you know
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anticipating given the success of their
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anticipating given the success of their
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systems in the Ukraine theater that that
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systems in the Ukraine theater that that
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their systems in the Israeli theater
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their systems in the Israeli theater
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could have had that same same type of
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could have had that same same type of
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effect or at least a little bit better
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effect or at least a little bit better
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than what they actually ended up with so
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than what they actually ended up with so
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I think this is one of the things that
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I think this is one of the things that
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uh is really uh really interesting about
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uh is really uh really interesting about
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how the the Iranians are going to
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how the the Iranians are going to
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recalculate uh after uh the the events
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recalculate uh after uh the the events
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of of of of Saturday uh and think
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of of of of Saturday uh and think
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through how can they uh improve that
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through how can they uh improve that
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rate um and uh you know does you know
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rate um and uh you know does you know
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again because you know 100 plus
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again because you know 100 plus
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ballistic missiles uh is is quite a bit
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ballistic missiles uh is is quite a bit
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uh and it didn't get through at least
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uh and it didn't get through at least
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most of it did not get through uh and so
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most of it did not get through uh and so
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I think this is a this but my fear is
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I think this is a this but my fear is
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that the Iranians are going to learn a
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that the Iranians are going to learn a
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lot from what happened uh and and
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lot from what happened uh and and
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recalibrate uh for the next round if we
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recalibrate uh for the next round if we
have
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have
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have
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one I agree I I agree completely with
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one I agree I I agree completely with
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Matt I think there are two things we
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Matt I think there are two things we
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need to understand though that Iran as
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need to understand though that Iran as
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stunning as its attack was in terms of
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stunning as its attack was in terms of
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more than 330 missiles and drones that
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more than 330 missiles and drones that
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that was just a fraction of its Arsenal
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that was just a fraction of its Arsenal
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it has over 3,000 ballistic missiles
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it has over 3,000 ballistic missiles
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alone uh and that yes it was a learning
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alone uh and that yes it was a learning
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experience but yes they've got a they've
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experience but yes they've got a they've
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got an awful lot to unleash and frankly
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got an awful lot to unleash and frankly
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uh I wrote a piece three years ago about
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uh I wrote a piece three years ago about
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how Iran because of its largely because
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how Iran because of its largely because
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of its missile capabilities has reached
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of its missile capabilities has reached
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a point that the Pentagon calls
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a point that the Pentagon calls
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overmatch and that is where Iran and its
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overmatch and that is where Iran and its
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allies could if they Unleashed half or
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allies could if they Unleashed half or
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more of what they have collectively they
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more of what they have collectively they
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could penetrate now it would be a very
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could penetrate now it would be a very
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expensive because it would it could sap
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expensive because it would it could sap
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their arsenals sa their you know the
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their arsenals sa their you know the
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things the arsenals they've built over
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things the arsenals they've built over
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years but they could would do damage so
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years but they could would do damage so
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we shouldn't take for granted that
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we shouldn't take for granted that
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Israel has a foolproof deterrent system
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Israel has a foolproof deterrent system
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I think there's um a real danger in kind
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I think there's um a real danger in kind
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of coming to that conclusion and I do
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of coming to that conclusion and I do
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think that um I just actually uh was
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think that um I just actually uh was
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sent something um kind of a News
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sent something um kind of a News
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Bulletin out of uh Iran that the general
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Bulletin out of uh Iran that the general
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hak talab who is in charge of nuclear
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hak talab who is in charge of nuclear
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security for the Revolutionary guards
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security for the Revolutionary guards
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has come out today and said because of
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has come out today and said because of
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what's going on with Israel we are going
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what's going on with Israel we are going
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to to reconsider our nuclear strategy
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to to reconsider our nuclear strategy
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and our nuclear policy and you know we
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and our nuclear policy and you know we
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can only hope that's Bluff and rhetoric
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can only hope that's Bluff and rhetoric
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but there's a real danger that Iran now
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but there's a real danger that Iran now
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feels and remember it's a paranoid
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feels and remember it's a paranoid
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Revolution xenophobic um suspicious
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Revolution xenophobic um suspicious
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because of its minority status whether
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because of its minority status whether
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it's ethnically politically in in terms
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it's ethnically politically in in terms
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of religion
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of religion
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that it will look for a way to prove
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that it will look for a way to prove
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that it has a deterrent cap ability too
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that it has a deterrent cap ability too
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and that's the danger when we talk about
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and that's the danger when we talk about
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escalation and a wher war yes you know
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escalation and a wher war yes you know
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there are obviously dangers that it
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there are obviously dangers that it
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brings in whether it's a greater role by
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brings in whether it's a greater role by
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the proxies or brings in other countries
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the proxies or brings in other countries
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but the real danger is a revision in
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but the real danger is a revision in
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Israeli Strate Iranian strategy that
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Israeli Strate Iranian strategy that
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really brings us into a whole new ball
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really brings us into a whole new ball
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game and frankly I'm at the point that I
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game and frankly I'm at the point that I
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believe that Iran will become the 10th
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believe that Iran will become the 10th
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power if I can add one other uh note on
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power if I can add one other uh note on
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on Rob's great comments uh for me as we
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on Rob's great comments uh for me as we
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were watching what may happen with uh
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were watching what may happen with uh
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with the Iranian nuclear program after
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with the Iranian nuclear program after
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Saturday for me you know moving if they
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Saturday for me you know moving if they
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decide to move towards a uh you know
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decide to move towards a uh you know
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towards a weapon it it I wonder if it is
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towards a weapon it it I wonder if it is
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almost kind of admitting uh the failure
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almost kind of admitting uh the failure
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of what they've been trying to do for so
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of what they've been trying to do for so
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uh for the last you know 10 plus years
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uh for the last you know 10 plus years
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of really building up their conventional
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of really building up their conventional
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defenses and their conventional off
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defenses and their conventional off
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offensive and defensive capabilities to
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offensive and defensive capabilities to
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be on that as Robin was describing both
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be on that as Robin was describing both
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the overmatch as well as having the
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the overmatch as well as having the
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defensive capacity to to withstand what
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defensive capacity to to withstand what
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they think the Israelis or the us could
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they think the Israelis or the us could
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throw at them that you know they've been
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throw at them that you know they've been
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very focused uh in addition to
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very focused uh in addition to
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everything happening with the nuclear
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everything happening with the nuclear
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program to really build up their
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program to really build up their
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conventional capacity uh and and in some
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conventional capacity uh and and in some
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ways kind of after everything they find
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ways kind of after everything they find
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we're just gonna have to go for a nuke
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we're just gonna have to go for a nuke
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um it's I mean they could do that uh
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um it's I mean they could do that uh
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it's certainly a fear but it does feel a
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it's certainly a fear but it does feel a
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bit like that's kind of admitting that
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bit like that's kind of admitting that
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their strategy hasn't quite worked uh
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their strategy hasn't quite worked uh
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and I don't quite know if they're if
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and I don't quite know if they're if
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they're ready for that I think they
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they're ready for that I think they
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certainly want to be telegraphing right
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certainly want to be telegraphing right
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now at least they seem to be wanting to
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now at least they seem to be wanting to
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Telegraph that they are thinking about
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Telegraph that they are thinking about
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it and that and hopefully to have some
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it and that and hopefully to have some
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deterrent effect I assume uh but it's
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deterrent effect I assume uh but it's
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this balance and interaction between
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this balance and interaction between
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their conventional thinking and the
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their conventional thinking and the
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conventional Doctrine and defenses and
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conventional Doctrine and defenses and
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their potential use of that
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their potential use of that
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strategically ambiguous nuclear program
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strategically ambiguous nuclear program
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uh that we've been so worried about for
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uh that we've been so worried about for
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the last 25 years uh that that for me is
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the last 25 years uh that that for me is
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really fascinating and and I don't I
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really fascinating and and I don't I
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don't know where the Iranians will go
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don't know where the Iranians will go
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with that and I want to add something to
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with that and I want to add something to
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Matt too it's really important to
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Matt too it's really important to
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understand that if Iran does take the
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understand that if Iran does take the
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political decision to make a bomb that
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political decision to make a bomb that
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it will be for deterrent capabilities
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it will be for deterrent capabilities
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they don't intend I don't think under
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they don't intend I don't think under
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even the most Hardline government Iran
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even the most Hardline government Iran
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has ever experienced I don't think their
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has ever experienced I don't think their
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intention is to use it they they knew
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intention is to use it they they knew
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they know that that's suicide
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they know that that's suicide
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politically and
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politically and
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militarily wow uh uh this is uh about
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militarily wow uh uh this is uh about
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the best uh I've heard about this
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the best uh I've heard about this
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situation and thank you both and now
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situation and thank you both and now
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we're going to Morocco Muhammad Tajin
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we're going to Morocco Muhammad Tajin
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husani has the following Henry kinger
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husani has the following Henry kinger
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stated a few weeks before his death that
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stated a few weeks before his death that
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World War II would inevitably come
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World War II would inevitably come
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within three or four years for the
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within three or four years for the
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Israeli response to Iran lead to such a
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Israeli response to Iran lead to such a
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war and related to the previous question
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war and related to the previous question
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uh is Israel going to make it worse for
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uh is Israel going to make it worse for
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itself if it attacks now related to the
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itself if it attacks now related to the
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previous question in this
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previous question in this
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question which one of you you're both
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question which one of you you're both
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smiling I I I I can take it again
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smiling I I I I can take it again
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um I'm not sure I mean I I tend to think
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um I'm not sure I mean I I tend to think
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we're going to find uh we're going to
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we're going to find uh we're going to
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muddle our our way through this uh for a
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muddle our our way through this uh for a
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bit um but you know the concern of
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bit um but you know the concern of
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course you know because we have you know
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course you know because we have you know
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an ongoing conflict uh in in the Ukraine
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an ongoing conflict uh in in the Ukraine
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in addition to what's happening in Gaza
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in addition to what's happening in Gaza
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in addition to what's happening between
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in addition to what's happening between
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Iran and Israel uh and of course
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Iran and Israel uh and of course
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concerns that uh we could also have
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concerns that uh we could also have
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escalation uh you know over the Taiwan
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escalation uh you know over the Taiwan
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Strait I think for me I I think it's
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Strait I think for me I I think it's
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unlikely that all of that is going to
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unlikely that all of that is going to
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converge uh into a a larger singular
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converge uh into a a larger singular
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Conflict at the same time it is it is
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Conflict at the same time it is it is
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from my perspective clear that each of
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from my perspective clear that each of
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those theaters are interacting with each
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those theaters are interacting with each
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other uh and there and as we're seeing
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other uh and there and as we're seeing
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um Moscow and Beijing and tyon uh and
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um Moscow and Beijing and tyon uh and
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sometimes pyang and and North Korea uh
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sometimes pyang and and North Korea uh
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coordinate uh more strategically uh and
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coordinate uh more strategically uh and
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I think all of these conflicts are
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I think all of these conflicts are
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actually pushing those uh those three
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actually pushing those uh those three
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powers closer together uh to the point
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powers closer together uh to the point
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where there I you know even though they
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where there I you know even though they
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still are many challenges for them I
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still are many challenges for them I
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don't call it an alliance uh we're
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don't call it an alliance uh we're
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talking do we start talking about the
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talking do we start talking about the
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axes of evil again I don't know
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axes of evil again I don't know
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uh but you know the the concern is that
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uh but you know the the concern is that
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what's what's happening in each of these
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what's what's happening in each of these
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three theaters is is creating strategic
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three theaters is is creating strategic
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I w't say dependencies but strategic
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I w't say dependencies but strategic
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Pathways of thinking and planning as
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Pathways of thinking and planning as
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well as arming and and you know sharing
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well as arming and and you know sharing
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of Doctrine and and and Lessons Learned
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of Doctrine and and and Lessons Learned
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uh that you know technology uh
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uh that you know technology uh
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cooperation that's going on among these
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cooperation that's going on among these
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three powers and and then four including
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three powers and and then four including
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North Korea uh that is is going to kind
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North Korea uh that is is going to kind
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of create new Mutual
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of create new Mutual
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dependencies uh strategic dependencies
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dependencies uh strategic dependencies
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over time uh that could really make it
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over time uh that could really make it
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very complicated uh you know if we have
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very complicated uh you know if we have
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uh you know pressures in in the Taiwan
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uh you know pressures in in the Taiwan
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straight does that accelerate situations
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straight does that accelerate situations
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in the Middle East or or or Russia or
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in the Middle East or or or Russia or
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vice versa um you know if things get
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vice versa um you know if things get
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really bad for Iran or really bad for
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really bad for Iran or really bad for
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Russia does that put pressure on China
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Russia does that put pressure on China
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to to ramp up uh its situation uh but
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to to ramp up uh its situation uh but
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you again I think that's where I'm I'm
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you again I think that's where I'm I'm
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I'm worried about the the different
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I'm worried about the the different
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fights interacting I don't know that
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fights interacting I don't know that
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kind of merging into a full World War
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kind of merging into a full World War
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III situation I I'm I'm less convinced
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III situation I I'm I'm less convinced
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that's going to happen so I'll add my my
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that's going to happen so I'll add my my
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two cents um I believe that Ukraine is
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two cents um I believe that Ukraine is
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far more important in terms of long-term
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far more important in terms of long-term
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Western interests uh protection of
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Western interests uh protection of
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Europe protection of you know democratic
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Europe protection of you know democratic
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values and so forth uh and and I worry
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values and so forth uh and and I worry
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that the the Middle East has distracted
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that the the Middle East has distracted
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the United States because of issues of
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the United States because of issues of
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who do you Aid and how how much
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who do you Aid and how how much
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equipment do you provide and I and I'm
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equipment do you provide and I and I'm
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really sorry to see that the ukrainians
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really sorry to see that the ukrainians
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are now in a position that they're
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are now in a position that they're
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losing territory and U there's open Talk
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losing territory and U there's open Talk
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of you know even losing the war um or
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of you know even losing the war um or
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losing territory you know quazi
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losing territory you know quazi
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permanently I do think that the
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permanently I do think that the
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interesting dynamic between China Russia
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interesting dynamic between China Russia
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and Iran is that they are very strange
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and Iran is that they are very strange
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bad fellows you know Russia post
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bad fellows you know Russia post
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communism autocratic rule but it's not
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communism autocratic rule but it's not
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communist in ideology uh China is
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communist in ideology uh China is
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communist um Iran uh hates communism and
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communist um Iran uh hates communism and
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doesn't like you
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doesn't like you
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know kind of so they kind of they need
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know kind of so they kind of they need
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each other they use each other the
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each other they use each other the
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interesting thing is China's playing off
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interesting thing is China's playing off
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Russia against Iran with discounted oil
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Russia against Iran with discounted oil
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both countries are sanctioned need to
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both countries are sanctioned need to
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sell oil and so China's you know
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sell oil and so China's you know
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exploiting their Necessities um I I
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exploiting their Necessities um I I
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think Xi Jinping is laughing all the way
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think Xi Jinping is laughing all the way
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to the bank he's seeing the West uh
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to the bank he's seeing the West uh
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distracted especially the United States
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distracted especially the United States
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by the wars in Ukraine and the Middle
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by the wars in Ukraine and the Middle
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East uh I worry that down the road you
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East uh I worry that down the road you
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know we have some kind of uh something
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know we have some kind of uh something
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happen in the Indo Pacific particularly
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happen in the Indo Pacific particularly
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over Taiwan uh I think that that kind of
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over Taiwan uh I think that that kind of
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offensive by China is a little bit more
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offensive by China is a little bit more
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complicated than people think but Xi
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complicated than people think but Xi
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Jinping has made clear that he intends
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Jinping has made clear that he intends
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to to take back Taiwan and in his uh
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to to take back Taiwan and in his uh
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period of his Rule and of course he's
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period of his Rule and of course he's
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around um in an open-ended way now so uh
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around um in an open-ended way now so uh
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when we think about this Alliance I
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when we think about this Alliance I
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think there are ways that we can um
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think there are ways that we can um
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shortstop it that we can accentuate the
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shortstop it that we can accentuate the
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differences between the two of them but
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differences between the two of them but
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it involves again kind of imaginative um
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it involves again kind of imaginative um
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diplomacy uh doing more than we are not
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diplomacy uh doing more than we are not
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abandoning uh you know the front line in
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abandoning uh you know the front line in
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Ukraine because of the Middle East and I
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Ukraine because of the Middle East and I
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think unfortunately those issues have
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think unfortunately those issues have
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merged in a way that's
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merged in a way that's
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counterproductive kind of for for
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counterproductive kind of for for
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everything we want to see happen the
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everything we want to see happen the
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funny thing is the next question was
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funny thing is the next question was
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going to be just this so I want to give
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going to be just this so I want to give
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the person who I I think is a former
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the person who I I think is a former
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UCLA student uh as I recall La saltsman
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UCLA student uh as I recall La saltsman
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uh Community member she says can you
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uh Community member she says can you
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please address the connection between
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please address the connection between
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the war in Ukraine and the Iranian
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the war in Ukraine and the Iranian
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attack to what extent if at all is this
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attack to what extent if at all is this
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a case of fail deterrence on behalf of
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a case of fail deterrence on behalf of
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the US Administration so this relates to
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the US Administration so this relates to
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where you just were Robin any further
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where you just were Robin any further
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comments no
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comments no
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Matt only to add that I I do think uh
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Matt only to add that I I do think uh
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you know as this as this re-evaluation
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you know as this as this re-evaluation
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there there was in my opinion a failure
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there there was in my opinion a failure
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of deterrence on on our part I mean it's
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of deterrence on on our part I mean it's
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been made pretty well known uh that you
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been made pretty well known uh that you
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know we were sending uh frequent
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know we were sending uh frequent
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messages uh you know to the Iranians uh
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messages uh you know to the Iranians uh
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to you know to not conduct this attack
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to you know to not conduct this attack
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obviously that didn't work um and and
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obviously that didn't work um and and
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think that that the the US has got to
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think that that the the US has got to
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re-evaluate again uh how effective our
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re-evaluate again uh how effective our
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deterrence is right now uh at that
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deterrence is right now uh at that
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strategic level even though I think the
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strategic level even though I think the
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demonstration of our capabilities on
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demonstration of our capabilities on
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Saturday has certainly aided um our
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Saturday has certainly aided um our
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deterrence uh but you know this is a
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deterrence uh but you know this is a
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again similar to the situation that we
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again similar to the situation that we
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had with uh with Putin in in 2021 uh and
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had with uh with Putin in in 2021 uh and
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early 2022 uh where we were also you
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early 2022 uh where we were also you
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know similar to here you know dis
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know similar to here you know dis
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disclosing intelligence information
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disclosing intelligence information
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making very clear what our messages are
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making very clear what our messages are
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um which are you know I fully support
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um which are you know I fully support
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both of these policy I think that's
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both of these policy I think that's
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actually been some of the best things to
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actually been some of the best things to
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see uh in US foreign policy recently is
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see uh in US foreign policy recently is
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our use of of disclosed intelligence uh
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our use of of disclosed intelligence uh
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and and attempts to improve our
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and and attempts to improve our
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messaging uh but I I think it still
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messaging uh but I I think it still
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shows that that we have not figured out
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shows that that we have not figured out
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uh how to really deter um uh folks uh
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uh how to really deter um uh folks uh
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like either Putin or uh or uh suprem you
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like either Putin or uh or uh suprem you
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know H uh which makes me even more
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know H uh which makes me even more
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nervous that we're going to be have any
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nervous that we're going to be have any
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effect or have the effect we want with
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effect or have the effect we want with
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Xi Jinping potentially in the
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Xi Jinping potentially in the
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future this is from muhamed is husani
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future this is from muhamed is husani
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from Morocco but I think it's different
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from Morocco but I think it's different
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from the past I'm going to ask it anyway
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from the past I'm going to ask it anyway
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Israeli said there will be no ceasefire
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Israeli said there will be no ceasefire
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because the complete
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because the complete
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distraction before the complete
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distraction before the complete
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distraction of
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distraction of
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Kamas uh I think uh complete uh
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Kamas uh I think uh complete uh
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destruction I think is what's meant uh
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destruction I think is what's meant uh
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may be wrong how can we imagine
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may be wrong how can we imagine
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desolution of the crisis particularly
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desolution of the crisis particularly
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the recognition of a viable Palestinian
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the recognition of a viable Palestinian
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State also can we consider htis as a
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State also can we consider htis as a
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national movement looking for the vital
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national movement looking for the vital
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interest of yemeni people or just a tool
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interest of yemeni people or just a tool
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acting for the Iranian interests in the
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acting for the Iranian interests in the
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region we had a big discussion of that
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region we had a big discussion of that
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yesterday and of course you can anybody
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yesterday and of course you can anybody
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can read it uh uh can can can hear it
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can read it uh uh can can can hear it
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it'll be ready in a couple of days but
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it'll be ready in a couple of days but
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to the two of
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to the two of
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you uh H how um
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you uh H how um
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uh uh what do you think of that and
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uh uh what do you think of that and
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there's another similar question that
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there's another similar question that
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I'm going to ask because it's related to
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I'm going to ask because it's related to
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the previous one this is from helner in
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the previous one this is from helner in
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Oxford although the Saudi amirati
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Oxford although the Saudi amirati
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rivalry was first visible in Yemen in
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rivalry was first visible in Yemen in
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about uh 2017 is now far broader and
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about uh 2017 is now far broader and
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expanding in all kinds of other sectors
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expanding in all kinds of other sectors
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oil prices now Al plenty others although
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oil prices now Al plenty others although
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Yemen remains a major focus and as AG
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Yemen remains a major focus and as AG
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said it is keeping the Saudis in the
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said it is keeping the Saudis in the
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yemeni Quagmire also as a person who
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yemeni Quagmire also as a person who
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worked in rural development in Yemen for
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worked in rural development in Yemen for
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decades and someone who believes in
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decades and someone who believes in
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community L on issues and democracy no
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community L on issues and democracy no
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way can be transformed into a solution
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way can be transformed into a solution
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to the National fragmentation of the
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to the National fragmentation of the
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leadership rather the contrary so we're
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leadership rather the contrary so we're
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dealing with ye Yemen and a couple of
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dealing with ye Yemen and a couple of
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ideas good luck and I think you're
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ideas good luck and I think you're
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coming in
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coming in
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first so uh go right ahead
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first so uh go right ahead
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so I love Yemen I took my mother there
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so I love Yemen I took my mother there
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uh in the mid1 1990s on vacation um I
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uh in the mid1 1990s on vacation um I
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mean it was it's just such a wonderful
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mean it was it's just such a wonderful
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place I I always say it's the closest
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place I I always say it's the closest
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place on Earth to know what it's like to
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place on Earth to know what it's like to
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live on another planet because uh
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live on another planet because uh
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everything is different in terms of
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everything is different in terms of
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human settlements and um the way things
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human settlements and um the way things
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get done I just want to make one point
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get done I just want to make one point
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generally on the houthis and on Iran's
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generally on the houthis and on Iran's
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axis of resistance we tend to always
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axis of resistance we tend to always
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just say Iranian backed Hezbollah
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just say Iranian backed Hezbollah
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Iranian backed houthis whatever what all
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Iranian backed houthis whatever what all
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of these groups have their own agenda uh
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of these groups have their own agenda uh
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all of them are exploiting Iran in the
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all of them are exploiting Iran in the
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same way Iran is exploiting them uh
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same way Iran is exploiting them uh
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where they have commonalities but they
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where they have commonalities but they
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are also issues on which they have
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are also issues on which they have
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differences and and they all emerged in
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differences and and they all emerged in
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context of local politics um so no huis
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context of local politics um so no huis
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you know don't represent all of Yemen
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you know don't represent all of Yemen
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and they don't hold all of Yemen and you
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and they don't hold all of Yemen and you
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know the tragedy is that uh on the eeve
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know the tragedy is that uh on the eeve
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of October 7th we saw some movement
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of October 7th we saw some movement
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toward a resolution of the conflict
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toward a resolution of the conflict
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between Yemen and Saudi Arabia but
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between Yemen and Saudi Arabia but
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everything is frozen whether it's uh the
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everything is frozen whether it's uh the
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future of Yemen or the Saudi
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future of Yemen or the Saudi
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relationship with Israel and I mean
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relationship with Israel and I mean
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that's one of the tragic byproducts uh
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that's one of the tragic byproducts uh
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Matt<01:00:22.760> all<01:00:22.960> right<01:00:23.720> uh<01:00:23.960> Matt
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Matt all right uh Matt
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Matt all right uh Matt
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yeah I I think you know
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yeah I I think you know
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for you know and I'm honestly I'm not a
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for you know and I'm honestly I'm not a
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specialist on the uh on the the
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specialist on the uh on the the
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Palestinian uh you know issue but I I
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Palestinian uh you know issue but I I
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think the the concern that Israel is
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think the the concern that Israel is
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facing is that it's current effort to
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facing is that it's current effort to
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you know destroy Hamas which I think
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you know destroy Hamas which I think
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we've already seen indications that
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we've already seen indications that
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their recognition that it's not going to
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their recognition that it's not going to
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quite play out like that that they're
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quite play out like that that they're
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going to have to um reevaluate that Str
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going to have to um reevaluate that Str
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and probably are re evaluating exactly
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and probably are re evaluating exactly
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what that's going to look like because
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what that's going to look like because
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we're seeing you know Hamas uh in
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we're seeing you know Hamas uh in
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limited ways is already reconstituting
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limited ways is already reconstituting
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in areas after the Israelis have left I
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in areas after the Israelis have left I
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think the Israelis are are going to
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think the Israelis are are going to
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eventually find themselves uh you know
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eventually find themselves uh you know
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in a in a combination of of of uh
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in a in a combination of of of uh
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counterinsurgency Counter Intelligence
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counterinsurgency Counter Intelligence
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and uh peacekeeping and uh and and in
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and uh peacekeeping and uh and and in
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Redevelopment all at the same time uh
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Redevelopment all at the same time uh
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which I you know this as some have noted
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which I you know this as some have noted
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this you know is going to feel a little
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this you know is going to feel a little
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bit like Iraq uh was for us um and and I
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bit like Iraq uh was for us um and and I
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think that which is kind of goes to one
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think that which is kind of goes to one
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of Robin's earlier points about how long
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of Robin's earlier points about how long
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this the situation could go on uh and
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this the situation could go on uh and
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and so I think for for the Israelis
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and so I think for for the Israelis
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they're they're going to have to think
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they're they're going to have to think
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through what is really uh going to get
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through what is really uh going to get
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them the security that they they want uh
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them the security that they they want uh
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in the end uh certainly the US still
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in the end uh certainly the US still
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supports a two-state solution um and and
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supports a two-state solution um and and
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I think some some form of that is still
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I think some some form of that is still
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most likely The Way Forward uh that that
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most likely The Way Forward uh that that
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would provide that uh obviously I'm
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would provide that uh obviously I'm
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pessimistic we're going to get that
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pessimistic we're going to get that
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right uh in in the near term uh but I I
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right uh in in the near term uh but I I
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do think that the the the whole region
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do think that the the the whole region
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is going to have to re-evaluate the uh
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is going to have to re-evaluate the uh
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its policies towards the Palestinians uh
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its policies towards the Palestinians uh
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in general uh both those that support
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in general uh both those that support
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and those that have been you know at
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and those that have been you know at
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least you know supporting Hamas or
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least you know supporting Hamas or
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supporting F or opposing it uh that I
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supporting F or opposing it uh that I
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think all of that is going to be
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think all of that is going to be
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re-evaluated is being reevaluated on y
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re-evaluated is being reevaluated on y
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uh it's you know it's important to
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uh it's you know it's important to
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understand this uh this evolution of the
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understand this uh this evolution of the
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axis of resistance that you know that
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axis of resistance that you know that
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the houthis were a thing before there
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the houthis were a thing before there
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was an access of resistance uh and uh
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was an access of resistance uh and uh
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well at least in its kind of modern form
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well at least in its kind of modern form
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uh and and of course over the years they
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uh and and of course over the years they
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have you know developed close
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have you know developed close
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relationships with his with L hisbah and
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relationships with his with L hisbah and
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of course with the uh you know Islamic
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of course with the uh you know Islamic
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revolutionary guard Corps and the Kuts
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revolutionary guard Corps and the Kuts
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force uh and they have become obviously
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force uh and they have become obviously
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a very important part of that axis now
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a very important part of that axis now
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but at the same time you know since
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but at the same time you know since
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October 7th they have really appreciated
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October 7th they have really appreciated
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the The credibility that they have
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the The credibility that they have
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appeared to have gained within the
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appeared to have gained within the
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Islamic community uh within the Arab
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Islamic community uh within the Arab
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Community as as the ones fighting for uh
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Community as as the ones fighting for uh
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for the Palestinians uh more directly
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for the Palestinians uh more directly
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than anyone else and I think it's it's
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than anyone else and I think it's it's
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put some very interesting pressures on
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put some very interesting pressures on
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Iran uh to be able to you know continue
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Iran uh to be able to you know continue
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what it believes is its rightful place
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what it believes is its rightful place
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to lead the Islamic community and not
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to lead the Islamic community and not
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only from an Islamic revolutionary
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only from an Islamic revolutionary
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standpoint but just from the uh Islamic
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standpoint but just from the uh Islamic
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community as a whole uh and and I think
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community as a whole uh and and I think
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that's that's part of what uh is is is
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that's that's part of what uh is is is
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interesting right now of what you know
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interesting right now of what you know
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why things were more uh you know uh more
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why things were more uh you know uh more
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significant in the in the
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significant in the in the
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retaliation on Saturday uh and why some
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retaliation on Saturday uh and why some
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of this is we're seeing greater risk uh
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of this is we're seeing greater risk uh
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taken by the uh Irani leadership you
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taken by the uh Irani leadership you
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know is this kind of pressure from the
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know is this kind of pressure from the
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houthis that you know they are not
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houthis that you know they are not
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simply proxies here they are Partners uh
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simply proxies here they are Partners uh
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and and sometimes in certain ways they
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and and sometimes in certain ways they
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are kind of taking the lead on things uh
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are kind of taking the lead on things uh
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and in ways that may not always align
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and in ways that may not always align
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with where Iran wants to go or at least
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with where Iran wants to go or at least
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at the the tempo that Iran wants to go
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at the the tempo that Iran wants to go
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uh and so for me this this Dynamic of
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uh and so for me this this Dynamic of
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pressure between uh you know among the
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pressure between uh you know among the
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you know among the key groups within the
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you know among the key groups within the
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axis and Iran um really where where
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axis and Iran um really where where
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Lebanese hisb is going to go we haven't
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Lebanese hisb is going to go we haven't
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really talked much about Lebanon uh in
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really talked much about Lebanon uh in
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this situation for for next uh next
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this situation for for next uh next
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steps uh but certainly everyone's
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steps uh but certainly everyone's
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concerned that we're going to have uh
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concerned that we're going to have uh
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another opening of of a full uh Le on
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another opening of of a full uh Le on
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front we always we already have a lower
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front we always we already have a lower
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level amount of of of activity uh but
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level amount of of of activity uh but
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that is one of the things that you know
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that is one of the things that you know
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hisbah for now uh is is restrained and
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hisbah for now uh is is restrained and
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and does not necessarily want to go
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and does not necessarily want to go
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further uh the Israelis also I don't
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further uh the Israelis also I don't
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think want to but I think they feel like
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think want to but I think they feel like
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they may need to uh which is the big
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they may need to uh which is the big
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concern uh so I think that the you know
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concern uh so I think that the you know
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really where baa where the houthis are
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really where baa where the houthis are
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and where the uh where the Irani
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and where the uh where the Irani
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leadership and particularly the
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leadership and particularly the
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Revolutionary guard are um is a very
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Revolutionary guard are um is a very
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changing quickly evolving Dynamic uh
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changing quickly evolving Dynamic uh
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since October
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since October
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7th okay we move on uh this is
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7th okay we move on uh this is
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interesting n n Nikolai COV from Moscow
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interesting n n Nikolai COV from Moscow
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are there immediate risks for the GCC if
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are there immediate risks for the GCC if
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there are any what are
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there are any what are
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they either of you want to take this on
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they either of you want to take this on
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I um I I do think that uh as we were
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I um I I do think that uh as we were
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talking about before on the domestic uh
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talking about before on the domestic uh
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concerns that you have in Jordan and
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concerns that you have in Jordan and
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Egypt I think the those domestic
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Egypt I think the those domestic
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concerns probably exist to a more
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concerns probably exist to a more
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limited degree uh within the GCC itself
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limited degree uh within the GCC itself
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um you know there's there was obviously
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um you know there's there was obviously
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you know some uh rumor is very kind of
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you know some uh rumor is very kind of
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Uncertain exactly if if what played out
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Uncertain exactly if if what played out
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about you know the willingness for the
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about you know the willingness for the
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the Gulf States uh to to uh to allow you
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the Gulf States uh to to uh to allow you
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know their uh territory to be used for
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know their uh territory to be used for
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uh the any kind of us response uh to in
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uh the any kind of us response uh to in
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the defense of Israel I think that's
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the defense of Israel I think that's
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something that from what I understand uh
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something that from what I understand uh
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in the end that the aises that the US
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in the end that the aises that the US
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needed uh were provided so in the end
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needed uh were provided so in the end
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that there was there was no actual
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that there was there was no actual
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concern uh but I think that that is
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concern uh but I think that that is
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something that uh each of the Gulf
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something that uh each of the Gulf
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States are going to have to evaluate
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States are going to have to evaluate
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after this that uh you know on the one
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after this that uh you know on the one
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hand uh there's obviously you know some
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hand uh there's obviously you know some
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debate in fear about becoming more
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debate in fear about becoming more
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directly in meshed in the Gaza conflict
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directly in meshed in the Gaza conflict
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they don't want to do that uh but I I
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they don't want to do that uh but I I
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also see you know from you know what
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also see you know from you know what
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we're hearing from the region that you
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we're hearing from the region that you
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know the the performance of the the the
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know the the performance of the the the
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partners uh in the on Saturday is
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partners uh in the on Saturday is
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actually encouraging greater discussion
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actually encouraging greater discussion
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about uh how we can uh you know go
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about uh how we can uh you know go
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further with this uh and and in a way
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further with this uh and and in a way
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which really is surprising after October
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which really is surprising after October
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7th which we thought as as Robin pointed
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7th which we thought as as Robin pointed
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out you know so much of that progress on
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out you know so much of that progress on
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uh normalization and and and increasing
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uh normalization and and and increasing
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our diplomatic uh relationships across
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our diplomatic uh relationships across
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the region really was being put on hold
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the region really was being put on hold
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if not reversed uh and I think uh
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if not reversed uh and I think uh
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Saturday's attack is putting that back
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Saturday's attack is putting that back
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on the agenda uh in a very strong way uh
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on the agenda uh in a very strong way uh
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so I think that the Gulf States are
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so I think that the Gulf States are
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still making their own uh their own
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still making their own uh their own
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hedging uh and calculations about how to
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hedging uh and calculations about how to
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manage both Iran and the US and Israel
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manage both Iran and the US and Israel
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uh they're going to continue to navigate
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uh they're going to continue to navigate
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that uh but I I do think that the uh
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that uh but I I do think that the uh
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that the Gulf States um are I in some
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that the Gulf States um are I in some
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ways in a better place now than they
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ways in a better place now than they
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were before
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were before
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Saturday and we've only got 10 minutes
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Saturday and we've only got 10 minutes
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uh for questions and answers I'm trying
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uh for questions and answers I'm trying
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desperately to get everybody in uh next
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desperately to get everybody in uh next
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is Eric sov of UCLA Alum since China and
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is Eric sov of UCLA Alum since China and
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Russia support Iran do you think
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Russia support Iran do you think
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sanctions on Iran would be effective if
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sanctions on Iran would be effective if
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China and Russia do not honor those
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China and Russia do not honor those
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sanctions also Israel wants to go into
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sanctions also Israel wants to go into
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Rafa to destroy the tunnels that go into
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Rafa to destroy the tunnels that go into
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Egypt and have uh Supply Kamas to
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Egypt and have uh Supply Kamas to
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destroy the last Hamas battalions and to
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destroy the last Hamas battalions and to
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free the hostages you see any scenario
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free the hostages you see any scenario
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that Israel will listen to the US and
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that Israel will listen to the US and
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not go into Rafa and why do you think
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not go into Rafa and why do you think
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the US does not understand the
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the US does not understand the
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importance of going into Rafa so uh big
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importance of going into Rafa so uh big
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question not less time who wants to go
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question not less time who wants to go
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first I'll go first very quickly uh
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first I'll go first very quickly uh
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first I don't think Israel is listening
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first I don't think Israel is listening
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to the United States on very much uh
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to the United States on very much uh
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there are passion there were passions
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there are passion there were passions
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Unleashed on October 7th uh they
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Unleashed on October 7th uh they
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continue to Define policy and politics
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continue to Define policy and politics
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in Israel I I see no um despite the
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in Israel I I see no um despite the
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death toll despite the destruction
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death toll despite the destruction
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despite the you know human stories
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despite the you know human stories
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coming out of Gaza I don't see any major
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coming out of Gaza I don't see any major
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change in public opinion um Beyond you
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change in public opinion um Beyond you
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know questions about BB and the desire
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know questions about BB and the desire
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to get hostages home I think that's uh
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to get hostages home I think that's uh
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again this is a domestic focus and not
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again this is a domestic focus and not
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one on what's happening in in Gaza um I
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one on what's happening in in Gaza um I
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I don't think that you know the the
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I don't think that you know the the
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question is is destroying an
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question is is destroying an
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infrastructure destroying tunnels is is
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infrastructure destroying tunnels is is
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that going to be enough to destroy Hamas
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that going to be enough to destroy Hamas
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and I'm not so sure long term again
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and I'm not so sure long term again
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there are differences between uh kind of
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there are differences between uh kind of
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what some would describe as a military
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what some would describe as a military
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success versus a political or public
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success versus a political or public
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opinion
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opinion
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um success and I think that the Israelis
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um success and I think that the Israelis
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are not being uh as thoughtful as they
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are not being uh as thoughtful as they
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could be in terms of their long-term
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could be in terms of their long-term
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interests uh and look Russia and China
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interests uh and look Russia and China
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are not going to join in the United
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are not going to join in the United
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States or help sanctions and as a result
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States or help sanctions and as a result
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the impact of sanctions will be partial
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the impact of sanctions will be partial
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but certainly not completely effective
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but certainly not completely effective
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or we're going to go on so um I I'm
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or we're going to go on so um I I'm
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looking for it we have one I believe we
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looking for it we have one I believe we
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have one more question I don't see
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have one more question I don't see
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anymore and um perhaps Manny Jad who's
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anymore and um perhaps Manny Jad who's
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been providing all this and making so
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been providing all this and making so
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much uh uh making this so much easier
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much uh uh making this so much easier
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will tell me if I'm wrong anyway this is
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will tell me if I'm wrong anyway this is
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from um dear suan who his third question
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from um dear suan who his third question
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it seems there was a contradiction in
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it seems there was a contradiction in
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the points being made on one hand
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the points being made on one hand
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there's an expressed desire to Halt
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there's an expressed desire to Halt
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hooti momentum yet on the other there
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hooti momentum yet on the other there
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appears to be reluctance to support
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appears to be reluctance to support
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anti- hooti group groups why not look
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anti- hooti group groups why not look
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into a proven track record such as the
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into a proven track record such as the
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success of the
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success of the
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Southern
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Southern
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governorates Governor had in
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governorates Governor had in
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repelling the uh
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repelling the uh
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hooes so um I don't know uh either one
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hooes so um I don't know uh either one
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of you has any questions on that and as
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of you has any questions on that and as
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I say I am looking to make sure but no
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I say I am looking to make sure but no
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we have another
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we have another
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question uh uh there there may be at
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question uh uh there there may be at
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least I may not have been okay no worry
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least I may not have been okay no worry
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about that what about
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about that what about
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this either one of you want to take
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this either one of you want to take
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it yeah um I I can take that one uh you
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it yeah um I I can take that one uh you
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know this has actually been a real
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know this has actually been a real
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challenge uh for US policy uh especially
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challenge uh for US policy uh especially
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you know you know since October 7th uh
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you know you know since October 7th uh
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in the in the Red Sea that you know we
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in the in the Red Sea that you know we
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were heading towards uh and I think it's
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were heading towards uh and I think it's
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still you know the after October 7 we
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still you know the after October 7 we
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were still heading towards uh the the
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were still heading towards uh the the
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pathway I forget exactly the term that
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pathway I forget exactly the term that
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we use for the uh kind of uh resolution
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we use for the uh kind of uh resolution
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of the the Saudi houthi fight that we
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of the the Saudi houthi fight that we
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were uh we were facilitating uh that was
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were uh we were facilitating uh that was
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something that uh was was our number one
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something that uh was was our number one
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priority uh it was certainly what the
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priority uh it was certainly what the
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the Saudis wanted uh and I think that
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the Saudis wanted uh and I think that
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when the the houthis began um escalating
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when the the houthis began um escalating
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against Red Sea shipping it became very
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against Red Sea shipping it became very
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complicated for us uh and it frankly uh
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complicated for us uh and it frankly uh
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really delayed what I think should have
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really delayed what I think should have
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been better better uh policy or
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been better better uh policy or
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decision-making on our part recognizing
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decision-making on our part recognizing
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the situation had really changed uh and
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the situation had really changed uh and
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that you know we were reluctant to
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that you know we were reluctant to
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pressure the houthis uh and uh you know
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pressure the houthis uh and uh you know
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with any effect uh given that we were on
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with any effect uh given that we were on
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this this peace pathway with the Saudis
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this this peace pathway with the Saudis
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I think that's obviously changed a bit
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I think that's obviously changed a bit
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because it became just simply
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because it became just simply
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intolerable uh but I I would agree in
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intolerable uh but I I would agree in
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some with the with the the questioner
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some with the with the the questioner
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that it's very unlikely that the types
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that it's very unlikely that the types
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of uh of of kind of punches in the face
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of uh of of kind of punches in the face
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that we're doing right now in addition
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that we're doing right now in addition
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you know to the
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you know to the
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uh as well as our our cooperation we're
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uh as well as our our cooperation we're
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doing with our partners and trying to
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doing with our partners and trying to
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protect freedom of freedom of navigation
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protect freedom of freedom of navigation
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uh that that's probably not going to be
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uh that that's probably not going to be
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sufficient to really change houti
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sufficient to really change houti
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Behavior Uh and I and I think that's
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Behavior Uh and I and I think that's
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something that we you know looking at
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something that we you know looking at
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ways to pressure the houthis again
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ways to pressure the houthis again
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without completely derailing the peace
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without completely derailing the peace
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process which is the difficulty uh but
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process which is the difficulty uh but
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to you know encourage those types of uh
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to you know encourage those types of uh
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those groups or uh Civil Society within
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those groups or uh Civil Society within
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within Yemen uh that were frankly before
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within Yemen uh that were frankly before
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October 7th were not very happy with
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October 7th were not very happy with
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houthi leadership the houthis were
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houthi leadership the houthis were
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facing a lot of push back uh from some
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facing a lot of push back uh from some
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of the the the the the Clans and from
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of the the the the the Clans and from
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the the larger population the cities and
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the the larger population the cities and
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elsewhere uh and so I think that those
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elsewhere uh and so I think that those
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are areas where you know that that we
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are areas where you know that that we
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could be encouraging the m& people still
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could be encouraging the m& people still
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it's not going to solve all of it but I
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it's not going to solve all of it but I
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think we can we can increase that
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think we can we can increase that
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pressure on the houthis to pull back is
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pressure on the houthis to pull back is
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beyond just simply punching them in the
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beyond just simply punching them in the
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face every now and
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face every now and
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again can I just very Qui to that um I
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again can I just very Qui to that um I
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worry a little bit and you Matt may have
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worry a little bit and you Matt may have
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a better definition of the word
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a better definition of the word
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encourage I worry a lot about where the
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encourage I worry a lot about where the
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United States goes in and kind of
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United States goes in and kind of
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decides well we like you know we don't
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decides well we like you know we don't
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like the people who are the military or
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like the people who are the military or
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the political power so we're going to do
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the political power so we're going to do
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a a lot of things uh you know engage
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a a lot of things uh you know engage
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more visibly in trying to create an
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more visibly in trying to create an
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alternative um I just want to point out
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alternative um I just want to point out
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what we did in Iraq and how successful
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what we did in Iraq and how successful
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that was right um that you know I we
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that was right um that you know I we
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need to be very careful and let kind of
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need to be very careful and let kind of
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local politics play out I do think we've
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local politics play out I do think we've
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something interesting happened has
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something interesting happened has
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happened in Yemen that we're not paying
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happened in Yemen that we're not paying
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enough attention to in the early days as
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enough attention to in the early days as
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uh the houthis escalated their attacks
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uh the houthis escalated their attacks
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on Red Sea shipping after the Gaza War
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on Red Sea shipping after the Gaza War
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um erupted that we were in the early
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um erupted that we were in the early
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days engaging in intercepts trying to
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days engaging in intercepts trying to
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prevent the houthi missiles and drones
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prevent the houthi missiles and drones
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from hitting uh international shipping
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from hitting uh international shipping
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uh but we have very steadily started
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uh but we have very steadily started
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going after anything we see being loaded
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going after anything we see being loaded
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in in Yemen um we did not pay enough
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in in Yemen um we did not pay enough
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attention in the runup even though the
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attention in the runup even though the
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houthis were active against
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houthis were active against
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international shipping before October uh
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international shipping before October uh
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7th we we had no idea what the no
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7th we we had no idea what the no
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estimate of what the houthi Arsenal was
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estimate of what the houthi Arsenal was
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and so now we've gotten to a point that
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and so now we've gotten to a point that
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we're actually taking the war to the to
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we're actually taking the war to the to
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the houthis and I think at some point
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the houthis and I think at some point
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that could you know look as if we're
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that could you know look as if we're
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we're engaged in a war with the houthis
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we're engaged in a war with the houthis
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not just trying to be protective or
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not just trying to be protective or
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defensive or a deterrent and no one's
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defensive or a deterrent and no one's
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paying much attention to that but it's
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paying much attention to that but it's
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an interesting question and and
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an interesting question and and
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something we should all watch
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something we should all watch
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interesting well we have one more
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interesting well we have one more
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question and we have five more minutes
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question and we have five more minutes
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before we go to our
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before we go to our
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conclusion uh so I've never seen a
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conclusion uh so I've never seen a
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program that actually came uh uh uh this
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program that actually came uh uh uh this
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uh this way and we don't have so we have
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uh this way and we don't have so we have
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everybody Israel this is Eric salov from
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everybody Israel this is Eric salov from
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us Alum the second question um oh
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us Alum the second question um oh
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somebody just
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somebody just
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uh all right we'll do our best Israel
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uh all right we'll do our best Israel
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says that they have killed 14,000 Kamas
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says that they have killed 14,000 Kamas
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terrorists and if 30,000 gosms were
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terrorists and if 30,000 gosms were
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killed that would mean that almost half
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killed that would mean that almost half
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of the deaths were Kamas militants Kamas
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of the deaths were Kamas militants Kamas
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claims that two-thirds of its deaths are
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claims that two-thirds of its deaths are
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women and children and does not release
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women and children and does not release
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numbers of how many of its militants
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numbers of how many of its militants
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have been killed also many sources
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have been killed also many sources
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doubt uh the Kamas released numbers of
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doubt uh the Kamas released numbers of
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deaths if the Israeli numbers are
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deaths if the Israeli numbers are
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correct why doesn't the world understand
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correct why doesn't the world understand
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how careful Israel has been to avoid
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how careful Israel has been to avoid
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civilian uh deaths and we have from
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civilian uh deaths and we have from
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David Canard what are Israel's options
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David Canard what are Israel's options
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in deciding its response to
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in deciding its response to
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Iran and uh uh so we can do a last uh
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Iran and uh uh so we can do a last uh
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Fatma Abdullah uh to Matthew you
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Fatma Abdullah uh to Matthew you
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mentioned that October 7th has stopped
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mentioned that October 7th has stopped
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to talks between KSA and hoties how do
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to talks between KSA and hoties how do
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you explain the visit to Saudi earlier
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you explain the visit to Saudi earlier
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this week so this does allow us to
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this week so this does allow us to
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finish everything I don't envy the two
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finish everything I don't envy the two
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of you see what you can do uh let's
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of you see what you can do uh let's
start
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start
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start
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with let's we'll deal uh uh uh let's do
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with let's we'll deal uh uh uh let's do
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it this way Matt I'm uh who I know has
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it this way Matt I'm uh who I know has
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to leave slightly early I'm going to
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to leave slightly early I'm going to
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give you now you can say everything you
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give you now you can say everything you
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want about these or anything else and
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want about these or anything else and
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then uh for the last uh uh section we'll
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then uh for the last uh uh section we'll
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turn to Robin and in Robin's case you
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turn to Robin and in Robin's case you
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can talk as long as you want because
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can talk as long as you want because
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else<01:17:16.320> uh<01:17:16.560> yeah<01:17:17.520> yeah<01:17:17.960> thanks<01:17:18.280> thanks<01:17:18.520> J<01:17:19.480> uh<01:17:19.639> you
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else uh yeah yeah thanks thanks J uh you
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else uh yeah yeah thanks thanks J uh you
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know for the the issue on October 7th
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know for the the issue on October 7th
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that the questioner had uh I I didn't
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that the questioner had uh I I didn't
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imp want to imply that there the talks
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imp want to imply that there the talks
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had stopped I think the the concern was
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had stopped I think the the concern was
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that you know we didn't want to
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that you know we didn't want to
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derail uh those talks that were were
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derail uh those talks that were were
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ongoing uh and and you know that uh that
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ongoing uh and and you know that uh that
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our our special Envoy uh you know Tim
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our our special Envoy uh you know Tim
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blender King was leading or helping to
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blender King was leading or helping to
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facilitate that those were um you know
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facilitate that those were um you know
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an effort that we we were very concerned
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an effort that we we were very concerned
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about disrupting by uh going after the
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about disrupting by uh going after the
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uh the houthis more directly uh so you
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uh the houthis more directly uh so you
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know the that's that was the real
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know the that's that was the real
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conundrum I think for the United States
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conundrum I think for the United States
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to the beginning uh of that of the Red
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to the beginning uh of that of the Red
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Sea escalation uh but I think that right
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Sea escalation uh but I think that right
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now I think we we' we're kind of past
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now I think we we' we're kind of past
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that a bit uh it's still ongoing uh as
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that a bit uh it's still ongoing uh as
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far as I know uh I haven't actually
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far as I know uh I haven't actually
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haven't been updated uh more recently on
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haven't been updated uh more recently on
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that but I I I think we're still trying
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that but I I I think we're still trying
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to pursue everything pushing back the
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to pursue everything pushing back the
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hoies keeping the talks of the Saudis
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hoies keeping the talks of the Saudis
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going uh and uh as well as addressing
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going uh and uh as well as addressing
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the humanitarian situation so uh all of
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the humanitarian situation so uh all of
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that's happening I would say on the the
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that's happening I would say on the the
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Israel uh Israeli options for Iran you
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Israel uh Israeli options for Iran you
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know the the you know we're obvious from
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know the the you know we're obvious from
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what I understand we're encouraging for
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what I understand we're encouraging for
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better for worse the Israelis uh to uh
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better for worse the Israelis uh to uh
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you know to be restrained or to Simply
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you know to be restrained or to Simply
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kind of take take the win uh given the
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kind of take take the win uh given the
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success of our our our Collective
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success of our our our Collective
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defenses on Saturday but uh the you know
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defenses on Saturday but uh the you know
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certainly you the the US uh will not be
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certainly you the the US uh will not be
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supporting uh any uh Israeli counter-
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supporting uh any uh Israeli counter-
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strike uh and that we made that pretty
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strike uh and that we made that pretty
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clear and that is that is certainly what
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clear and that is that is certainly what
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we will be doing uh but the uh the
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we will be doing uh but the uh the
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options uh you know the Israelis will
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options uh you know the Israelis will
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have a lot of options uh but you know
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have a lot of options uh but you know
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that that debate about whether we go uh
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that that debate about whether we go uh
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whe whether they go for uh things like
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whe whether they go for uh things like
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the nuclear infrastructure or they go
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the nuclear infrastructure or they go
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for say for example
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for say for example
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irgc uh command and control or they go
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irgc uh command and control or they go
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for say you know missile uh production
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for say you know missile uh production
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facilities or missile deployment sites
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facilities or missile deployment sites
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uh you know that there's you know given
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uh you know that there's you know given
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if you're looking for uh you know
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if you're looking for uh you know
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retaliatory options given what was
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retaliatory options given what was
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targeted on Saturday there's a whole
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targeted on Saturday there's a whole
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wealth of things that theoretically uh
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wealth of things that theoretically uh
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the Israelis could go for um and you
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the Israelis could go for um and you
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know from you know the US concern the
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know from you know the US concern the
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the issue is you know do you know we
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the issue is you know do you know we
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really want to be you know careful about
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really want to be you know careful about
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uh or encouraging the Israelis to be
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uh or encouraging the Israelis to be
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very uh very uh uh very thoughtful about
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very uh very uh uh very thoughtful about
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the types of targets uh if they are
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the types of targets uh if they are
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going to do something uh that is
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going to do something uh that is
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something that is going to be able to
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something that is going to be able to
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manage the escalation because you know
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manage the escalation because you know
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we we we again we liked what uh how how
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we we we again we liked what uh how how
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we performed on on Saturday but
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we performed on on Saturday but
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obviously we don't want to have a repeat
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obviously we don't want to have a repeat
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of that if we can avoid it uh and and
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of that if we can avoid it uh and and
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given that the risk of of f
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given that the risk of of f
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miscalculation uh I think that's that's
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miscalculation uh I think that's that's
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the real concern but the Israelis do
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the real concern but the Israelis do
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have a number of options uh that they
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have a number of options uh that they
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can through their missile or Air Forces
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can through their missile or Air Forces
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uh can
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uh can
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conduct you have anything else to say
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conduct you have anything else to say
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since I know you have to leave
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since I know you have to leave
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us um I can I can stay on for a couple
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us um I can I can stay on for a couple
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minutes but uh but otherwise it's been
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minutes but uh but otherwise it's been
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great joining you and this has been a
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great joining you and this has been a
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really uh excellent uh conversation uh
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really uh excellent uh conversation uh
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with you and Robin it's been quite an
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with you and Robin it's been quite an
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experience thank you all right Robin
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experience thank you all right Robin
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your turn thanks Matt he's always a
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your turn thanks Matt he's always a
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dynamic speaker and I always learn from
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dynamic speaker and I always learn from
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him a couple of things you know when it
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him a couple of things you know when it
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comes to the options for Israel frankly
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comes to the options for Israel frankly
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I don't know what Israel's objective is
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I don't know what Israel's objective is
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uh we know that BB Netanyahu doesn't
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uh we know that BB Netanyahu doesn't
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want Iran to get a bomb but when it
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want Iran to get a bomb but when it
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comes to what is it trying to do when it
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comes to what is it trying to do when it
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comes to Iran politically kinetically
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comes to Iran politically kinetically
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you know across the board uh in a in a
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you know across the board uh in a in a
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broader way what does uh we know that
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broader way what does uh we know that
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that Israel wants to destroy Hamas
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that Israel wants to destroy Hamas
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annihilate a some of its officials have
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annihilate a some of its officials have
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said uh we know that it wants to to uh
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said uh we know that it wants to to uh
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his bullet to push back on the board I
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his bullet to push back on the board I
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actually think i' and I've talked to
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actually think i' and I've talked to
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senior us officials involved in this
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senior us officials involved in this
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diplomacy that there is a deal that is
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diplomacy that there is a deal that is
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attainable if the Gaza war ends with
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attainable if the Gaza war ends with
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hamama with Hezbollah hisbah is now so
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hamama with Hezbollah hisbah is now so
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far back from the border that it
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far back from the border that it
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wouldn't involve a major withdrawal
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wouldn't involve a major withdrawal
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something that would be you know kind of
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something that would be you know kind of
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embarrassing for hisbah it's already
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embarrassing for hisbah it's already
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lost territory equipment leadership in
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lost territory equipment leadership in
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the South uh and I think for the first
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the South uh and I think for the first
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time NASA wants to Define that border in
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time NASA wants to Define that border in
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a way he didn't after the 2006 War
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a way he didn't after the 2006 War
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because that would mean that his bua was
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because that would mean that his bua was
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recognized recognizes recognizing
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recognized recognizes recognizing
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Israel's right to exist now he has a
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Israel's right to exist now he has a
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security interest in defining that
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security interest in defining that
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border um when it comes to the number of
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border um when it comes to the number of
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deaths they're talking about 33,000 look
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deaths they're talking about 33,000 look
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um has Hamas has provided names whether
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um has Hamas has provided names whether
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they're real or not I don't know there
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they're real or not I don't know there
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are those on the ground International um
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are those on the ground International um
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Aid organizations the United Nations
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Aid organizations the United Nations
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agencies that have used some of these
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agencies that have used some of these
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figures but to me you know you know um
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figures but to me you know you know um
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you're talking about 33,000 even if half
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you're talking about 33,000 even if half
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of them are Hamas that still means
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of them are Hamas that still means
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15,000 uh civilians have been killed and
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15,000 uh civilians have been killed and
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that's really painful um you know a lot
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that's really painful um you know a lot
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of us expected Israel to be a little bit
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of us expected Israel to be a little bit
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more careful in its military operations
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more careful in its military operations
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to avoid deaths we've all seen videos of
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to avoid deaths we've all seen videos of
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um you know the children really young
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um you know the children really young
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children not teenagers who might be
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children not teenagers who might be
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members of Hamas uh you know but the the
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members of Hamas uh you know but the the
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re really little ones who died and I
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re really little ones who died and I
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think this is not good for Israel's
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think this is not good for Israel's
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long-term image um or its kind of
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long-term image um or its kind of
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reputation as being one of the most
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reputation as being one of the most
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moral states in the world so uh do you
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moral states in the world so uh do you
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have any other comments as
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have any other comments as
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we no I think we covered on an awful lot
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we no I think we covered on an awful lot
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of basis today it's very impressive and
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of basis today it's very impressive and
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thank you Steve for organizing this and
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thank you Steve for organizing this and
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to solom and mani for um organizing
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to solom and mani for um organizing
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everything thank you actually I uh we're
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everything thank you actually I uh we're
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g to move right into this uh and be
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g to move right into this uh and be
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right on time first of all the two of
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right on time first of all the two of
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you were amazing and
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you were amazing and
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uh uh we're so lucky to have both of you
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uh uh we're so lucky to have both of you
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and I think the country is so lucky to
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and I think the country is so lucky to
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have both of you and uh this was a
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have both of you and uh this was a
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critical moment and uh we were able to
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critical moment and uh we were able to
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have this kind of uh session I know I
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have this kind of uh session I know I
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feel like I know more about what's going
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feel like I know more about what's going
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on and I hope everyone else does too and
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on and I hope everyone else does too and
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my next point is is your last Point uh
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my next point is is your last Point uh
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Manny Jad who uh uh was behind the
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Manny Jad who uh uh was behind the
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scenes the entire program and uh was
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scenes the entire program and uh was
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giving me all the uh questions want to
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giving me all the uh questions want to
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thank her so much Salam mohajer and Lura
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thank her so much Salam mohajer and Lura
Lee<01:24:11.520> who
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Lee who
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Lee who
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um Monday morning preparing for a
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um Monday morning preparing for a
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session on Wednesday learned that we
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session on Wednesday learned that we
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were goingon to do something on Thursday
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were goingon to do something on Thursday
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and pulled it off it was amazing it's
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and pulled it off it was amazing it's
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the quickest and highest number we've
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the quickest and highest number we've
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ever had maybe couple of days we should
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ever had maybe couple of days we should
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do when we have it faster no I'm kidding
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do when we have it faster no I'm kidding
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but the point is we do thank them and
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but the point is we do thank them and
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Emily pisto who always helps so much and
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Emily pisto who always helps so much and
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I work with uh very strongly uh but I
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I work with uh very strongly uh but I
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should tell everyone that CED is not
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should tell everyone that CED is not
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finished it has a we've been working on
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finished it has a we've been working on
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this for months and we have quite a bit
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this for months and we have quite a bit
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to offer in the next few weeks and so
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to offer in the next few weeks and so
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you all see this uh what is possible
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you all see this uh what is possible
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when it's Israelis and Palestinians work
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when it's Israelis and Palestinians work
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together which would be a little
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together which would be a little
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different is a little different does
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different is a little different does
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occur uh and we'll be discussing that on
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occur uh and we'll be discussing that on
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Thursday uh at 1M Pacific time uh uh a
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Thursday uh at 1M Pacific time uh uh a
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live event and registration is required
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live event and registration is required
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as always as all of these but are
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as always as all of these but are
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available women in Conflict voices
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available women in Conflict voices
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resilience and solutions we'll have
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resilience and solutions we'll have
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Wednesday May
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Wednesday May
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1st uh the following week and then Sudan
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1st uh the following week and then Sudan
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uh the Lesser known war a terrible War
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uh the Lesser known war a terrible War
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uh that we felt we had to discuss uh and
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uh that we felt we had to discuss uh and
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nobody pays much attention to it but we
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nobody pays much attention to it but we
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know people and uh it's just awful
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know people and uh it's just awful
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Thursday May 16th the details are coming
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Thursday May 16th the details are coming
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soon in the latter two cases but uh we
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soon in the latter two cases but uh we
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are up and running for the Thursday
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are up and running for the Thursday
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April 20 uh uh 5th so uh
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April 20 uh uh 5th so uh
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we hope to see you soon we have an
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we hope to see you soon we have an
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exciting series over the next few weeks
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exciting series over the next few weeks
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and again we thank both of our speakers
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and again we thank both of our speakers
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for this very useful session in very
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for this very useful session in very
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difficult times uh we hope to see you
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difficult times uh we hope to see you
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