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would like to welcome you to our very
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first episode of a unique monthly series
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we are calling cmed chats my name is
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we are calling cmed chats my name is
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cmed's project manager and i'm very
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cmed's project manager and i'm very
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excited that you have joined us today
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this new project will engage charismatic
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this new project will engage charismatic
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we plan to bring you anyone from
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more guests who can help us dig
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for at least 30 minutes they will cover
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a variety of topics and highlight the
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many diverse voices and realities that
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the colorful region we lovingly know as
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the colorful region we lovingly know as
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within 24 hours of this live broadcast
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we will not be accepting audience
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however if you have any logistics
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feel free to let us know in the q a
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window at the bottom of your screen
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we will do our best to address your
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and without further ado i will pass the
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microphone to cmed's fearless leader
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microphone to cmed's fearless leader
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professor steven spiegel a man who has
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professor steven spiegel a man who has
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to the betterment of the region and who
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is highly regarded in the world of
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take it away thank you very much salman
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take it away thank you very much salman
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when you use that introduction in the uh
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when you use that introduction in the uh
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well we were practicing i didn't realize
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well we were practicing i didn't realize
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you were going to really use it
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you were going to really use it
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all right so what an exciting moment
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all right so what an exciting moment
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for for us at cmed uh as selma has
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for for us at cmed uh as selma has
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uh suggested to bring together prominent
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uh suggested to bring together prominent
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who uh can discuss issues of the time
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who uh can discuss issues of the time
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and tell us a lot about themselves it's
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and tell us a lot about themselves it's
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uh that we've never tried before so this
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uh that we've never tried before so this
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for us an exceptionally important uh
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uh there are a lot of discussions going
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uh there are a lot of discussions going
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about the events of the last couple of
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uh but what we're trying to do here is
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to talk with major figures
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to talk with major figures
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alone so we can see what they think and
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alone so we can see what they think and
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uh get a a better sense and so we're so
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uh get a a better sense and so we're so
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to have hisham yusuf
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to have hisham yusuf
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uh and uh he is of course i see mid
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uh and uh he is of course i see mid
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uh he has been
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uh he has been
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uh with us with us for a long time and
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uh with us with us for a long time and
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with so many people for a long time
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with so many people for a long time
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he joined the united states institute of
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he joined the united states institute of
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peace as a senior fellow in july 2019
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peace as a senior fellow in july 2019
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so he's in washington now but before
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so he's in washington now but before
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that he joined the organization of
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that he joined the organization of
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islamic cooperation as an assistant
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islamic cooperation as an assistant
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general for humanitarian affairs in july
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general for humanitarian affairs in july
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uh uh yousef joined the ministry of
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uh uh yousef joined the ministry of
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foreign affairs of egypt in 1985
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foreign affairs of egypt in 1985
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and was posted in canada and geneva he
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and was posted in canada and geneva he
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served twice in the cabinet of the
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served twice in the cabinet of the
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he joined the arab league where he was
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he joined the arab league where he was
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the official spokesman and in 203 became
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the official spokesman and in 203 became
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mr youthful was the campaign manager for
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mr youthful was the campaign manager for
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moosa's presidential campaign which he
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moosa's presidential campaign which he
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uh unfortunately by mid 2011 mr youssef
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uh unfortunately by mid 2011 mr youssef
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uh by mid-2012 i'm sorry he became a
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uh by mid-2012 i'm sorry he became a
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before we begin uh really to have our
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before we begin uh really to have our
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i'd like to ask hisham how he feels
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i'd like to ask hisham how he feels
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about the prominent role played by egypt
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about the prominent role played by egypt
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in uh in ameliorating the current crisis
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in uh in ameliorating the current crisis
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and at least for now ending the
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and at least for now ending the
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so-called war between uh
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israel and hamas yosemite welcome aboard
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israel and hamas yosemite welcome aboard
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hisham malcolm aboard
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well steve let me start by thanking you
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well steve let me start by thanking you
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it's uh it's indeed a privilege to be
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it's uh it's indeed a privilege to be
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the first in this new series so
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the first in this new series so
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i'm very happy to be here and very happy
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i'm very happy to be here and very happy
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to discuss uh
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all all that's on your mind in relation
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all all that's on your mind in relation
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to developments in the middle east
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to developments in the middle east
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in relation to your first question
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in relation to your first question
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regarding uh
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what has been happening in the war on
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what has been happening in the war on
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gaza and the rule of egypt
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gaza and the rule of egypt
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i think the role of egypt has been
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i think the role of egypt has been
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uh in in the different wars that took
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uh in in the different wars that took
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place in the last 15 years or so
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place in the last 15 years or so
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in 2008 2009 it was more collective
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in 2008 2009 it was more collective
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because it was done through
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because it was done through
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the arab league in 2012 egypt made
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the arab league in 2012 egypt made
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played an important role in 2014 egypt
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played an important role in 2014 egypt
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played an important role
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played an important role
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and this time it was it wasn't any
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and this time it was it wasn't any
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different but i have to emphasize as
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different but i have to emphasize as
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well that it wasn't egypt alone
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well that it wasn't egypt alone
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i think without the role that was played
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by president biden and the us
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by president biden and the us
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administration without the role played
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administration without the role played
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qatar like uh jordan and others
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qatar like uh jordan and others
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the germans the french when they
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the germans the french when they
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presented the after resolution to the
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presented the after resolution to the
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security council so it was a collective
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security council so it was a collective
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but i think the the country that did the
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but i think the the country that did the
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this particular episode of trying to end
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this particular episode of trying to end
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was egypt and i'm glad that this was
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was egypt and i'm glad that this was
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in a much shorter time than it took last
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time around that took almost 50 days of
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time around that took almost 50 days of
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in 2014 2017 in 2014.
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so uh thank you um now that we've gotten
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so uh thank you um now that we've gotten
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a flavor for you although many of us
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a flavor for you although many of us
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know you of course flavor for the way
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know you of course flavor for the way
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let's spend a few minutes uh as we
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let's spend a few minutes uh as we
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originally envisioned to talk about you
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originally envisioned to talk about you
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you spent your career in the diplomatic
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you spent your career in the diplomatic
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arena how did you come to this
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arena how did you come to this
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and what was it like for you
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and what was it like for you
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well i i have to tell you steve i was
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well i i have to tell you steve i was
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because you know you mentioned something
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because you know you mentioned something
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about the things that i did in the last
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about the things that i did in the last
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35 years or 40 years and
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35 years or 40 years and
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i was for the most part in almost all
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i was for the most part in almost all
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the positions that i held i was in the
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the positions that i held i was in the
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and as you know in diplomacy the kitchen
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and as you know in diplomacy the kitchen
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is the most important part of the
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is the most important part of the
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so being in the kitchen i think allowed
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so being in the kitchen i think allowed
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all kinds of developments in relation to
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all kinds of developments in relation to
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uh one of the toughest visions
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uh one of the toughest visions
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that you know quite well perhaps more
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that you know quite well perhaps more
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than many others around the world
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so it was it was really a
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so it was it was really a
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you know a career that i enjoyed
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you know a career that i enjoyed
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and sometimes it was of course as always
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uh disappointing uh there were huge
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uh disappointing uh there were huge
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you know pains difficulties and so on
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you know pains difficulties and so on
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so what would you say you've learned
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from the major diplomatic positions
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you've had i mean this is
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you know got a couple of minutes to
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you know got a couple of minutes to
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describe 35 years as you say
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describe 35 years as you say
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but um what what do you what do you
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but um what what do you what do you
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well what is particularly important
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perhaps i'll go
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you know add to what i mentioned earlier
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and i saw them closing
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i saw many successes many failures so
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i saw many successes many failures so
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i'll start with the failures
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i'll start with the failures
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and since i've been dealing with the
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and since i've been dealing with the
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israeli palestinian conflicts for
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israeli palestinian conflicts for
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over three decades or so since the
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over three decades or so since the
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madrid conference that we are
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madrid conference that we are
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commemorating this year 30 years after
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commemorating this year 30 years after
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there is no need to say more about the
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there is no need to say more about the
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failure in this particular aspect
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failure in this particular aspect
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we failed also when i was in the arab
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we failed also when i was in the arab
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league we tried to intervene in one of
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league we tried to intervene in one of
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the wars in yemen
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the wars in yemen
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between ali abdullah and the houthis it
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between ali abdullah and the houthis it
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was the sixth war
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was the sixth war
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and we went to him and tried to persuade
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and we went to him and tried to persuade
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allow us to work on mediation and so on
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allow us to work on mediation and so on
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no arabization no internationalization
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at the time this was his slogan but then
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at the time this was his slogan but then
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he changed his mind uh i saw
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he changed his mind uh i saw
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i was very lucky to have witnessed the
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i was very lucky to have witnessed the
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revolutions uh you know in the last 10
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revolutions uh you know in the last 10
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and this also was quite disappointing
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and this also was quite disappointing
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in in all kinds of ways including
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in in all kinds of ways including
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i was privileged to have attended the g7
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i was privileged to have attended the g7
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summit that took place in france in 2011
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summit that took place in france in 2011
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at the height of the arab revolutions
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at the height of the arab revolutions
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where the table had president obama
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where the table had president obama
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president sarkozy
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barozzo you name it the imf
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barozzo you name it the imf
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the world bank and they were willing to
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the world bank and they were willing to
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the region move towards democracy in a
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the region move towards democracy in a
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very substantive way but then we see
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very substantive way but then we see
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today how
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the region looks like i also have seen a
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the region looks like i also have seen a
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steve particularly in the five years
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steve particularly in the five years
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that i worked in the organization of
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that i worked in the organization of
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islamic corporation because i was
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islamic corporation because i was
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for a number of files one of which was
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for a number of files one of which was
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and i went to refugee camps in more
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and i went to refugee camps in more
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countries than i can count
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countries than i can count
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and you can't help but being depressed
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and you can't help but being depressed
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for weeks and weeks after you visit
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for weeks and weeks after you visit
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these camps when you feel that you
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these camps when you feel that you
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you know you should do more but you
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you know you should do more but you
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can't and countries are not helping and
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can't and countries are not helping and
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and so on so uh
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and so on so uh
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one of the most painful stories for me
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one of the most painful stories for me
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when i visited gaza after the war in
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when i visited gaza after the war in
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and i went to a hospital to see to see
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and i went to a hospital to see to see
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how people were doing and so on and i
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how people were doing and so on and i
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and there was a young boy and
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and there was a young boy and
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the doctor was about to tell me the
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the doctor was about to tell me the
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about what happened to this young boy
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about what happened to this young boy
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and the nurse came running to us
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and grabbed us from our hands and took
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and grabbed us from our hands and took
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us out of the room
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us out of the room
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because he was about to tell me his
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because he was about to tell me his
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story and his story was that he lost all
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story and his story was that he lost all
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his family
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his family
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but he didn't know and he didn't tell
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but he didn't know and he didn't tell
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him
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so he was going to know just because the
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so he was going to know just because the
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doctor was telling me his story
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doctor was telling me his story
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and i just cried like a baby and every
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and i just cried like a baby and every
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time i remember this story
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time i remember this story
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it breaks my my heart so it's
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it breaks my my heart so it's
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you know and the situation in iraq and
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you know and the situation in iraq and
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the situation in many places and so on
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the situation in many places and so on
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so it was hot
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so it was hot
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but i had some success stories so i'll
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but i had some success stories so i'll
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tell you a few of them and i think some
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tell you a few of them and i think some
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of them are significant
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of them are significant
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you know i was part of those who
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you know i was part of those who
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negotiated uh
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negotiated uh
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the u.n security council resolution 1701
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the u.n security council resolution 1701
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that ended the war in lebanon i was also
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that ended the war in lebanon i was also
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uh one of those who negotiated the
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uh one of those who negotiated the
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security council resolution 1850 that
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security council resolution 1850 that
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ended the war in gaza in 2008-2009
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ended the war in gaza in 2008-2009
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i participated in the iraqi
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i participated in the iraqi
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reconciliation process
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reconciliation process
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and it wasn't a real success but it
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and it wasn't a real success but it
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wasn't a real failure so it was
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wasn't a real failure so it was
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it but it was important so so i
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it but it was important so so i
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in in the doha agreement uh for
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in in the doha agreement uh for
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reconciliation in
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reconciliation in
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lebanon and so on so i think it was at
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lebanon and so on so i think it was at
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the end of the day
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the end of the day
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a career where there were all kinds of
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a career where there were all kinds of
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mixed things both successes
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mixed things both successes
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and failures well um
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and failures well um
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my last question about
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my last question about
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your career in a sense uh before we get
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your career in a sense uh before we get
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into substance uh
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into substance uh
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when did you leave the arab league and
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when did you leave the arab league and
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where did you go afterward
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where did you go afterward
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i left the arab league in 2014 and
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i left the arab league in 2014 and
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immediately thereafter i was elected as
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immediately thereafter i was elected as
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an assistant secretary general in the yc
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an assistant secretary general in the yc
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so i moved immediately from from one
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so i moved immediately from from one
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regional organization to another
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regional organization to another
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organization like israel i always notice
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organization like israel i always notice
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that
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that
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more countries so i have more problems
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more countries so i have more problems
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than difficulties and so on
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than difficulties and so on
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so after dealing with the problems of
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so after dealing with the problems of
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the arab world
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the arab world
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i dealt with i had to deal with the
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i dealt with i had to deal with the
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problems of the islamic world which are
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problems of the islamic world which are
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which
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which added a few additional conflicts
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which added a few additional conflicts
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here and there so it was
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here and there so it was
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it was also interesting addition i'm
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it was also interesting addition i'm
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going to ask you something that you're
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going to ask you something that you're
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not going to like i think
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not going to like i think
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which was harder
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which was harder
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well i used to i used to tell my friends
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well i used to i used to tell my friends
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i worked for 12 years in the arab league
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i worked for 12 years in the arab league
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and
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see what happened in our world now i
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see what happened in our world now i
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have greater ambitious
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have greater ambitious
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ambitions i'm going to destroy the whole
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ambitions i'm going to destroy the whole
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islamic world
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islamic world
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so which was more difficult i think they
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so which was more difficult i think they
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are all equally difficult
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are all equally difficult
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but but then you see what is happening
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but but then you see what is happening
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in the world of today and how
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in the world of today and how
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regional organizations are suffering and
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regional organizations are suffering and
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i think
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i think
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the regional organizations in our vision
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the regional organizations in our vision
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and beyond
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and beyond
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are in some form of this array even the
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are in some form of this array even the
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g the
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gulf cooperation council that was seen
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gulf cooperation council that was seen
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as a success story
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as a success story
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and i think that it is success story in
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and i think that it is success story in
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a sense
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a sense
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is seeing now all kinds of difficulties
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is seeing now all kinds of difficulties
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and challenges i hope
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and challenges i hope
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it would be able to you know
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it would be able to you know
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to to come back to its uh
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to to come back to its uh
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its efforts because i think it did some
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its efforts because i think it did some
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some good work
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some good work
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for the people of the gulf they felt it
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for the people of the gulf they felt it
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you know
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you know
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when someone in the gulf can travel with
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when someone in the gulf can travel with
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his id card
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his id card
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to the gulf countries they felt that
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to the gulf countries they felt that
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this is
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this is
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a significant improvement for the
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a significant improvement for the
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ability to move in the gulf between the
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ability to move in the gulf between the
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country
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so things of that nature i hope that
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so things of that nature i hope that
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they come back and
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they come back and
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become as active as they once were
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become as active as they once were
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uh let's let's turn to the current
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uh let's let's turn to the current
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crisis
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crisis
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and of course you've um you've seen
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and of course you've um you've seen
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so many of these unfortunately
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so many of these unfortunately
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for everyone that that you had to how
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for everyone that that you had to how
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does the current crisis compare to your
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does the current crisis compare to your
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um you talked about 2014 2014
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um you talked about 2014 2014
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let me i think you know you know better
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let me i think you know you know better
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than many others feel that
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than many others feel that
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all these conflicts are complicated um
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all these conflicts are complicated um
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all of them
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all of them
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whether it's syria yemen libya iran
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whether it's syria yemen libya iran
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uh they're all complicated and of course
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uh they're all complicated and of course
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the israeli-palestinian conflict is
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the israeli-palestinian conflict is
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the mother of all complications so uh
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the mother of all complications so uh
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it is not unusual but but this
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it is not unusual but but this
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particular
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particular
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conflict has differences from all the
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conflict has differences from all the
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previous ones
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previous ones
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and i think there is a recognition by
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and i think there is a recognition by
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many israelis that this
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many israelis that this
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is the case so uh
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is the case so uh
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the rockets from hamas now are much more
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the rockets from hamas now are much more
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precise
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precise
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they have a larger range
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they have a larger range
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and they can become more
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and they can become more
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devastating uh israel had to close
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devastating uh israel had to close
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its glass platform it has to close uh
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its glass platform it has to close uh
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the bengalian airport
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the bengalian airport
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more than once and so on so
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more than once and so on so
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and the trend is that this will continue
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and the trend is that this will continue
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and i think we all know
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and i think we all know
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that the houthis with the help of iran
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that the houthis with the help of iran
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were able to
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were able to
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stop fifty percent of saudi oil at one
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stop fifty percent of saudi oil at one
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so and this technology reached the trees
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so and this technology reached the trees
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and hezbollah we know what they were
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and hezbollah we know what they were
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capable of doing in 2006
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capable of doing in 2006
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as well surprising the whole world and
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as well surprising the whole world and
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israel as well
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israel as well
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so israel this time around was so much
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so israel this time around was so much
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surprised
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surprised
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but as officials from
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but as officials from
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the israeli army are saying that in the
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the israeli army are saying that in the
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next war with lebanon
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next war with lebanon
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they would expect 2 000 rockets a day
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they would expect 2 000 rockets a day
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and this would devastate their defense
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and this would devastate their defense
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so the projection is that things will
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so the projection is that things will
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become much worse
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become much worse
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and the technology will becoming much
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and the technology will becoming much
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easier and the level of
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easier and the level of
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destruction would be much higher and we
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destruction would be much higher and we
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shouldn't wait for that to happen
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shouldn't wait for that to happen
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and i think this is the most important
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and i think this is the most important
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message that the elite should understand
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message that the elite should understand
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and then a second point that is also
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and then a second point that is also
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fundamentally different than
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fundamentally different than
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previous ones is what happened
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previous ones is what happened
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within the green light for the first
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within the green light for the first
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time
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time
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when you have an israeli president
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when you have an israeli president
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warning the israeli people of a possible
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warning the israeli people of a possible
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civil war
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civil war
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then i think this is a society that
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then i think this is a society that
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needs to reflect
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needs to reflect
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on what it has done and where it is
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on what it has done and where it is
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going
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because they have to realize that this
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because they have to realize that this
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cannot continue
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cannot continue
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that there is nothing like a status quo
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that there is nothing like a status quo
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that continues in
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that continues in
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in the middle east and in particular in
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in the middle east and in particular in
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the israeli palestinian conflict
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the israeli palestinian conflict
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so have they have they received this
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so have they have they received this
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message
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message
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my fear is that they may not have and if
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my fear is that they may not have and if
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this is the case
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this is the case
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then this means that we will be facing
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then this means that we will be facing
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more and more difficulties as time
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more and more difficulties as time
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the last couple apropos of this in the
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the last couple apropos of this in the
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last uh couple of days there's been more
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last uh couple of days there's been more
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and more
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and more
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i notice attention uh returning to iran
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i notice attention uh returning to iran
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it's coming up an election is there
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it's coming up an election is there
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going to be a deal with the united
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going to be a deal with the united
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states etc
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states etc
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and um and uh many bo
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and um and uh many bo
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seem to believe that the iranians are
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seem to believe that the iranians are
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behind all this
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behind all this
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uh which adds to the crisis around
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uh which adds to the crisis around
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uh uh iran how do how do you see it
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uh uh iran how do how do you see it
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and how important is iran here as
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and how important is iran here as
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opposed to some of the other issues
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opposed to some of the other issues
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which we'll get to a minute that we've
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which we'll get to a minute that we've
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been discussing about the
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been discussing about the
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uh israeli-palestinian relationship
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uh israeli-palestinian relationship
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i don't think that this is related to
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i don't think that this is related to
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iran this is related to a much more
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iran this is related to a much more
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fundamental issue okay to a more
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fundamental issue okay to a more
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difficult one it is related to jerusalem
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difficult one it is related to jerusalem
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and it started in jerusalem and it
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and it started in jerusalem and it
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started as a result of things that
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started as a result of things that
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you know actions that took place both
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you know actions that took place both
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in laksa mosque and in
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in laksa mosque and in
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silver so this was the trigger and there
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silver so this was the trigger and there
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are many israelis who have
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are many israelis who have
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admitted that they felt that the israeli
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admitted that they felt that the israeli
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police and security
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police and security
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made a huge mistake and they were saying
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made a huge mistake and they were saying
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well because he is inexperienced
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well because he is inexperienced
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um well i'm very sorry this is
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um well i'm very sorry this is
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this is a very bad excuse and it cannot
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this is a very bad excuse and it cannot
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be an excuse
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be an excuse
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so and also what we are witnessing today
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so and also what we are witnessing today
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after the ceasefire with the kind of
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after the ceasefire with the kind of
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actions that are being taken
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actions that are being taken
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by the israeli security system in
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by the israeli security system in
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uh jerusalem apprehending
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uh jerusalem apprehending
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hundreds if not thousands of people and
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hundreds if not thousands of people and
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so on that is
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so on that is
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an indication that no it wasn't um
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an indication that no it wasn't um
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an innocent mistake in the first place
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an innocent mistake in the first place
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that led to all all these
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that led to all all these
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things and then of course you have to
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things and then of course you have to
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factor in what's happening in israel
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factor in what's happening in israel
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internally in relation to the outcome of
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internally in relation to the outcome of
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the elections
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the elections
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and the efforts to establish government
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and the efforts to establish government
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and
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and
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the netanyahu camp versus anti-netanya
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the netanyahu camp versus anti-netanya
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camp and so on
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camp and so on
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so it is complicated and iran i think is
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so it is complicated and iran i think is
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focusing now
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focusing now
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on trying to see how it can
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on trying to see how it can
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get the united states to go back to the
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get the united states to go back to the
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nuclear deal
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nuclear deal
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and it's it's it's you know concerned
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and it's it's it's you know concerned
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and worried and
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and worried and
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being active on all kinds of other
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being active on all kinds of other
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issues but i don't think that this
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issues but i don't think that this
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issue in particular was triggered by you
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issue in particular was triggered by you
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know
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know
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this does not mean that they don't help
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this does not mean that they don't help
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hamas and and head and so on that's a
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hamas and and head and so on that's a
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different story
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different story
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but it is not they are not the figure
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but it is not they are not the figure
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and this was not the focus at this point
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and this was not the focus at this point
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in time
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in time
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is there anything you'd like to say
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is there anything you'd like to say
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about what the um
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about what the um
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about what the israelis should do now to
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about what the israelis should do now to
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try to ameliorate and then i want to ask
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try to ameliorate and then i want to ask
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you
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what not hamas but
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what not hamas but
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the the other side of the palestinian
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the the other side of the palestinian
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leadership should do now
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leadership should do now
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if you're advising either are you ready
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if you're advising either are you ready
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to say what you might think and i know
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to say what you might think and i know
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you've written a very important paper
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you've written a very important paper
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uh that we've been sending you around on
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uh that we've been sending you around on
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10 steps
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10 steps
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washington can take after the
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washington can take after the
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de-escalation so please feel free to fit
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de-escalation so please feel free to fit
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that in
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that in
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well yeah thank you for for for this
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well yeah thank you for for for this
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plug about my article
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plug about my article
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so thank you uh yes these were
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so thank you uh yes these were
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steps that i thought that the biden
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steps that i thought that the biden
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administration
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can consider taking and by mind you
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can consider taking and by mind you
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these are not the most ambitious ones i
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these are not the most ambitious ones i
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am also
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am also
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mindful of the political context in
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mindful of the political context in
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which this is taking place
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which this is taking place
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and the fact that this administration
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and the fact that this administration
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has indicated that
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has indicated that
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the middle east other than the iranian
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the middle east other than the iranian
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nuclear file is not a real priority for
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nuclear file is not a real priority for
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for the administration and so on so so
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for the administration and so on so so
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i'm taking all that in mind and then
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i'm taking all that in mind and then
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i'm saying all kinds of things that you
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i'm saying all kinds of things that you
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know does not necessarily require too
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know does not necessarily require too
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much of a political capital
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much of a political capital
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so for example when we say uh well
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so for example when we say uh well
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the united states should be a little
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the united states should be a little
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more firm in relation to
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more firm in relation to
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preserving the status quo in jerusalem
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preserving the status quo in jerusalem
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this is an agreement that
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this is an agreement that
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took place between initially between
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took place between initially between
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jordan and israel and then
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jordan and israel and then
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only a few years back by secretary kerry
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only a few years back by secretary kerry
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and the king of
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and the king of
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jordan and prime minister netanyahu so
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jordan and prime minister netanyahu so
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it wasn't somebody else no
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it wasn't somebody else no
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it was netanyahu himself that agreed to
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it was netanyahu himself that agreed to
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the status quo
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the status quo
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brokered by by secretary kerry why can't
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brokered by by secretary kerry why can't
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the bridal
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the bridal
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administration be firm about an issue of
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administration be firm about an issue of
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that nature they
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that nature they
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are not so i'm not asking them for the
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are not so i'm not asking them for the
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moon but i think there
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moon but i think there
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are some steps that they can take that
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are some steps that they can take that
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are not supposed to be that difficult
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are not supposed to be that difficult
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as for israel you see the problem in
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as for israel you see the problem in
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israel
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israel
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is that it is now you know
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is that it is now you know
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extremely linked to a person
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extremely linked to a person
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to a prime minister that wants to remain
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to a prime minister that wants to remain
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in his job
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in his job
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why because he has a court case so
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why because he has a court case so
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it is not necessarily now limited to
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it is not necessarily now limited to
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israeli interests and preserving israeli
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israeli interests and preserving israeli
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interests but now it has become related
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interests but now it has become related
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also to personal agendas making things
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also to personal agendas making things
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more and more difficult so this means
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more and more difficult so this means
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that netanyahu will find it very
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that netanyahu will find it very
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difficult
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difficult
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not to appease his far-right coalition
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not to appease his far-right coalition
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and make any concessions in relation to
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and make any concessions in relation to
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any issue
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any issue
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even he knows that the situation in
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even he knows that the situation in
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shepherd
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shepherd
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is explosive and if these people are
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is explosive and if these people are
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evicted
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evicted
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i am afraid that another explosion will
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i am afraid that another explosion will
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be on our hand
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be on our hand
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so this is part of the trigger that took
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so this is part of the trigger that took
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place before and it will be part of the
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place before and it will be part of the
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next figure if it's not
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next figure if it's not
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dealt with but he wants it to come from
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dealt with but he wants it to come from
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the courts rather than
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the courts rather than
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in a political way in order for him to
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in a political way in order for him to
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say well it wasn't me
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say well it wasn't me
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it was the courts so israel has to
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it was the courts so israel has to
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decide
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decide
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but it has to also make the most
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but it has to also make the most
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strategic decision
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strategic decision
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is it willing to continue
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is it willing to continue
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to seek a jewish state or
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to seek a jewish state or
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a state with a jewish character or
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a state with a jewish character or
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does it want to maintain the land
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does it want to maintain the land
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because they can't have both
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because they can't have both
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they can't have the land and continue to
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they can't have the land and continue to
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to
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call them young settlements and
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call them young settlements and
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legalizing young settlements
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legalizing young settlements
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and you know and before that we had a
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and you know and before that we had a
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big fight about annexation and so on
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big fight about annexation and so on
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and they think that peace can be can be
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and they think that peace can be can be
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reached and that the palestinians will
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reached and that the palestinians will
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surrender and say okay
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surrender and say okay
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whatever you give us will take they the
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whatever you give us will take they the
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palestinians
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palestinians
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industries have proven to them time and
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industries have proven to them time and
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again that this will not happen
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again that this will not happen
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that they will not accept something
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that they will not accept something
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less than what they think they can live
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less than what they think they can live
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with which is
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with which is
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which is something in you know you have
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which is something in you know you have
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been working on
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been working on
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on this issue and you know all the
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on this issue and you know all the
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parameters regarding the solution and
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parameters regarding the solution and
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what's in the ips initiative and so on
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what's in the ips initiative and so on
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so it is not that we are reinventing the
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so it is not that we are reinventing the
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wheel no
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wheel no
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and as a matter of fact israel and the
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and as a matter of fact israel and the
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palestinians in previous negotiations
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palestinians in previous negotiations
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whether it was in camp david or between
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whether it was in camp david or between
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uh the israeli government at the time
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uh the israeli government at the time
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and
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and
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abu mazen and so on they were close they
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abu mazen and so on they were close they
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were close
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were close
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and they could have reached agreements
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and they could have reached agreements
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at that point in time
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at that point in time
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uh or whether it was bass or mute or
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uh or whether it was bass or mute or
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whether it
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whether it
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was arafat rabbi so we you know the
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was arafat rabbi so we you know the
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parameters are very close to being known
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parameters are very close to being known
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we have to see how this can be done
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we have to see how this can be done
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if you want to ask for the palestinians
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if you want to ask for the palestinians
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and what they should do
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and what they should do
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i think the palestinians that's what i
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i think the palestinians that's what i
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was going to ask absolutely
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was going to ask absolutely
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you know you you you said that this was
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you know you you you said that this was
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one of the things
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one of the things
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for the palestinians we have to be very
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for the palestinians we have to be very
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frank with the palestinians as well
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frank with the palestinians as well
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they have to understand the world has
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they have to understand the world has
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changed and the reason
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changed and the reason
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region has changed and one of the the
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region has changed and one of the the
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reflections of this
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reflections of this
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change was the four countries that
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change was the four countries that
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decided to establish
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decided to establish
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relations with israel and this did not
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relations with israel and this did not
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come out of the blue
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come out of the blue
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and they have to understand that things
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and they have to understand that things
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have changed
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have changed
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and they have to change and in in light
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and they have to change and in in light
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of that
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of that
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when they have a declining legitimacy
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when they have a declining legitimacy
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when they have a declining popularity
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when they have a declining popularity
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when they have a problem in bad
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when they have a problem in bad
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governance in corruption and so on
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governance in corruption and so on
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they it is in their advantage to deal
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they it is in their advantage to deal
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with these issues in the most serious of
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with these issues in the most serious of
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ways
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ways
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otherwise they will lose their cause it
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otherwise they will lose their cause it
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is not
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is not
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simply a government that would fall and
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simply a government that would fall and
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another government would come
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another government would come
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so this is how serious it is for the for
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so this is how serious it is for the for
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the palestinians and they have to get
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the palestinians and they have to get
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their act together
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their act together
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and they have to see how to reconcile
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and they have to see how to reconcile
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between
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between
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in the differences between father and
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in the differences between father and
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hamas and so on
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hamas and so on
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in at a time when the dangers are
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in at a time when the dangers are
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much more serious than they have ever
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much more serious than they have ever
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seen
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seen
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since the the whole conflict started
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since the the whole conflict started
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whenever you wanted to to to have
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whenever you wanted to to to have
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started whether it's 48th or
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started whether it's 48th or
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before that or whatever it is so the
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before that or whatever it is so the
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palestinians also have to get their act
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palestinians also have to get their act
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together and i hope that
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together and i hope that
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they learn from what is happening today
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they learn from what is happening today
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in order to see
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in order to see
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how they can have government of national
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how they can have government of national
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unity in order to be able to deal with
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unity in order to be able to deal with
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the reconstruction
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the reconstruction
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of gaza because this cannot happen with
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of gaza because this cannot happen with
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a divided
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a divided
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palestinian situation
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palestinian situation
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you don't think you're going to happen
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you don't think you're going to happen
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with a divided palestinian situation
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with a divided palestinian situation
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how uh how could the two sides
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how uh how could the two sides
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on the palestinian side possibly unite
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on the palestinian side possibly unite
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well they don't have to unite they have
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well they don't have to unite they have
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to
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to
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to to coexist and you have to see how
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to to coexist and you have to see how
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they can deal with each other
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they can deal with each other
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with within their differences so they
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with within their differences so they
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can agree on some things and agree to
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can agree on some things and agree to
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different other things
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different other things
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so they can have a government that would
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so they can have a government that would
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be acceptable to all
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be acceptable to all
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because because as you know what the u.s
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because because as you know what the u.s
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is saying and what the eu is saying in
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is saying and what the eu is saying in
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relation to assistance
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relation to assistance
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the eu the u.s is saying we will not
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the eu the u.s is saying we will not
provide
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provide
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provide
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assistance that would help hamas in any
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assistance that would help hamas in any
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way
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way
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the europeans are saying something that
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the europeans are saying something that
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is even more fundamental they're saying
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is even more fundamental they're saying
well
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well
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well
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we have to also ensure that the
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we have to also ensure that the
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assistance that we are giving
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assistance that we are giving
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is not destroyed another time when we
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is not destroyed another time when we
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have the next war so we have to have a
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have the next war so we have to have a
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political process
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political process
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and this is i think the crux of the
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and this is i think the crux of the
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issue that the u.s will have to face
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issue that the u.s will have to face
today
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today
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today
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because it didn't have this issue as a
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because it didn't have this issue as a
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privacy but it was forced on it as a
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privacy but it was forced on it as a
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private
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private
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now that it's forced as a priority they
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now that it's forced as a priority they
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have to think about
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have to think about
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what the europeans are saying that you
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what the europeans are saying that you
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know you can't have a recurring war
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know you can't have a recurring war
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every two three four
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every two three four
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five years whatever it is so this is not
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five years whatever it is so this is not
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sustainable
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sustainable
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neither for the israelis nor for the
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neither for the israelis nor for the
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palestinians nor for the whole vision
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palestinians nor for the whole vision
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you know you've been answering a lot of
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you know you've been answering a lot of
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questions before i could ask them but
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questions before i could ask them but
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i want to come back to the abraham
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i want to come back to the abraham
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accords
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which you just mentioned um and uh
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which you just mentioned um and uh
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i talk to people some say the abraham
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i talk to people some say the abraham
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courts are finished
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courts are finished
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some say they haven't records will only
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some say they haven't records will only
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grow
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grow
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now because more arab states will want
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now because more arab states will want
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influence over
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influence over
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israel and others how do you see it
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israel and others how do you see it
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what's going to happen the obviously the
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what's going to happen the obviously the
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states involved the four states involved
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states involved the four states involved
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have gone very quiet and other states
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have gone very quiet and other states
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that
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that
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many believe were about to join up with
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many believe were about to join up with
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israel obviously have gone quiet
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israel obviously have gone quiet
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where are we going here what do you
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where are we going here what do you
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think well
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think well
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uh i don't think that you would see
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uh i don't think that you would see
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anybody actually to establish
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anybody actually to establish
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relations with israel in light of what
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relations with israel in light of what
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happened in the last
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happened in the last
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few weeks so so no one is standing in
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few weeks so so no one is standing in
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line
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but we also have to understand that the
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but we also have to understand that the
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four countries
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four countries
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established relations with israel for
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established relations with israel for
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reasons other than
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reasons other than
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the situation in the israeli palestinian
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the situation in the israeli palestinian
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country so
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country so
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morocco was related to the situation
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morocco was related to the situation
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pertaining to the western sahara
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pertaining to the western sahara
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sudan was related to getting immunity
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sudan was related to getting immunity
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from american courts and being lifted
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from american courts and being lifted
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from
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the terrorists so this was the essential
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the terrorists so this was the essential
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reason for these two countries the
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reason for these two countries the
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united methodist is a different story
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united methodist is a different story
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but united arab emirates was the only
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but united arab emirates was the only
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country who did it in a context
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country who did it in a context
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that can claim that they did it in
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that can claim that they did it in
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return for
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a suspension of annexation
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a suspension of annexation
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and this is partly true because at that
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and this is partly true because at that
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uh president trump was
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uh president trump was
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the head of the u.s at the time and he
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the head of the u.s at the time and he
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said well annexation is off the table
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said well annexation is off the table
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as for the time being so he recognized
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as for the time being so he recognized
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that the cost for having this
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that the cost for having this
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normalization agreement with
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normalization agreement with
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the united arab emirates was to suspend
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the united arab emirates was to suspend
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an uh annexation but then the united
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an uh annexation but then the united
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arab emirates had other
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arab emirates had other
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objectives uh in addition to that not
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objectives uh in addition to that not
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only the f-35s and the
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only the f-35s and the
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military equipment and so on but it had
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military equipment and so on but it had
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other strategic objections
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other strategic objections
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objectives in relation to establishing
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objectives in relation to establishing
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these relations
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these relations
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and this has not changed so our
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and this has not changed so our
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countries will
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not be advancing relations these whether
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not be advancing relations these whether
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these four or others
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these four or others
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will not be advancing relations in any
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will not be advancing relations in any
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substantial way
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substantial way
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as long as this situation continues if
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as long as this situation continues if
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the situation
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the situation
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is ameliorated if there are some
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is ameliorated if there are some
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advances in in towards peace and so on
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advances in in towards peace and so on
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then then perhaps things would loosen a
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then then perhaps things would loosen a
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little bit
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little bit
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but i don't expect that there would be
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but i don't expect that there would be
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any fundamental changes
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any fundamental changes
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in the relations between the four
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in the relations between the four
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countries and israel
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countries and israel
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it will not be you know they will not go
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it will not be you know they will not go
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back on that
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back on that
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and also at the same time they will find
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and also at the same time they will find
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it very difficult
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it very difficult
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to take major steps in advancing
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to take major steps in advancing
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relations
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while this is taking place
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while this is taking place
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you know i know you've worked with
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you know i know you've worked with
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americans for
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americans for
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um ten years but now the last couple
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um ten years but now the last couple
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years you've been in in washington
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years you've been in in washington
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and what is your perception
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and what is your perception
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and analysis of what's happening in
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and analysis of what's happening in
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washington we've had a change of
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washington we've had a change of
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government obviously
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government obviously
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uh we've had increased involvement
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uh we've had increased involvement
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especially the last couple of weeks
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especially the last couple of weeks
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in uh uh in the middle east and in the
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in uh uh in the middle east and in the
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israeli-palestinian issue from the
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israeli-palestinian issue from the
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president himself
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president himself
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how do you see things moving what's your
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how do you see things moving what's your
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what's your perception
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what's your perception
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and do you see anything changing on on
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and do you see anything changing on on
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the american side
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the american side
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well i have to admit that i was somewhat
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well i have to admit that i was somewhat
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disappointed with
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disappointed with
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the degree of privatization that was
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the degree of privatization that was
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given to the middle east
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given to the middle east
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why because the middle east has its way
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why because the middle east has its way
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to come back to the top of the agenda
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to come back to the top of the agenda
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and usually this happens through
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and usually this happens through
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violence and
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violence and
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you don't need any examples other than
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you don't need any examples other than
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the last 10-11 days
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the last 10-11 days
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it took one month for president biden to
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it took one month for president biden to
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to have his first
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to have his first
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phone call with netanyahu and then in
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phone call with netanyahu and then in
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one week he spoke to him six times so
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one week he spoke to him six times so
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this is an indication of how things in
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this is an indication of how things in
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the middle east are
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the middle east are
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volatile and how they come back to to
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volatile and how they come back to to
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bite you
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bite you
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so i hope that as a result of that
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so i hope that as a result of that
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and in light of the trip of secretary
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and in light of the trip of secretary
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blinken to the region that
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blinken to the region that
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that this would lead to a
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that this would lead to a
reconsideration
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reconsideration
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reconsideration
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of the level of priority that would be
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of the level of priority that would be
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given to the situation in the
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given to the situation in the
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israeli-palestinian conflict i'm not
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israeli-palestinian conflict i'm not
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saying that this should be the number
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saying that this should be the number
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one perhaps
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one perhaps
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i know china is more important russia is
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i know china is more important russia is
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more important iran is more important
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more important iran is more important
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but what i'm saying is that this too is
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but what i'm saying is that this too is
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extremely important
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extremely important
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and it has implications that go beyond
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and it has implications that go beyond
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the israeli-palestinians fear
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the israeli-palestinians fear
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and it goes it affects the rulings so
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and it goes it affects the rulings so
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we hope that they would reconsider the
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we hope that they would reconsider the
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in the in re-prioritizing their issues
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in the in re-prioritizing their issues
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and have the
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and have the
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this conflict uh you know somewhat
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this conflict uh you know somewhat
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higher on their list of urge
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higher on their list of urge
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and also this would depend also on you
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and also this would depend also on you
know
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know
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know
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as you know the confirmation hearings
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as you know the confirmation hearings
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and so on takes a very long time so they
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and so on takes a very long time so they
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haven't completed
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haven't completed
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their confirmation yet and i hope that
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their confirmation yet and i hope that
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they do that as soon as they can in
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they do that as soon as they can in
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order for them to be able to be
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order for them to be able to be
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to deal with some of the issues of the
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to deal with some of the issues of the
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middle east in
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middle east in
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a much more active way as we come toward
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a much more active way as we come toward
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the end of our conversation
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the end of our conversation
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i'd like to ask you at two similar
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i'd like to ask you at two similar
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questions one
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questions one
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is okay you're in charge what would you
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is okay you're in charge what would you
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do immediately
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do immediately
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and related to that uh do
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and related to that uh do
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you have any hope for improvement in the
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you have any hope for improvement in the
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well what to do immediately you know
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well what to do immediately you know
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see if you've followed these issues for
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see if you've followed these issues for
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decades now we have had between the
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decades now we have had between the
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israelis and the palestinians all kinds
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israelis and the palestinians all kinds
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of talks direct talks in dire talks
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of talks direct talks in dire talks
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proximity talks shuttle diplomacy you we
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proximity talks shuttle diplomacy you we
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had we had it all
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had we had it all
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so the question is you know
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so the question is you know
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trying to put the situation back
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trying to put the situation back
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on a track that would allow
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on a track that would allow
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people to have hope one of the reasons
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people to have hope one of the reasons
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why we have seen what we have seen
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why we have seen what we have seen
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in jerusalem and in the west bank and in
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in jerusalem and in the west bank and in
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gaza
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gaza
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and inside the blue green line is that
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and inside the blue green line is that
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people
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people
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are seeing no hope for improvement in
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are seeing no hope for improvement in
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the future
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the future
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so we we need a political race without a
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so we we need a political race without a
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political horizon
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political horizon
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things will not improve dramatically so
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things will not improve dramatically so
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and
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and
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this is you know either been in my hand
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this is you know either been in my hand
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i would be working on a political
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i would be working on a political
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horizon
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horizon
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first and foremost and then and then
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first and foremost and then and then
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other things
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other things
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can can be accommodated through a
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can can be accommodated through a
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step-by-step approach and so on
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step-by-step approach and so on
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but people need to know what the final
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but people need to know what the final
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destination is
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destination is
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whether it would be a two-state solution
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whether it would be a two-state solution
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or not because if it's not
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or not because if it's not
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then we have another problem on our hand
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then we have another problem on our hand
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and
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and
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we may be talking for the next few
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we may be talking for the next few
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decades whoever will be around to
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decades whoever will be around to
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discuss these issues
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discuss these issues
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about how uh you know palestinians would
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about how uh you know palestinians would
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get equal rights and so on and it's
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get equal rights and so on and it's
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interesting that the us
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interesting that the us
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has been focusing in the last few weeks
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has been focusing in the last few weeks
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about having equal rights
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about having equal rights
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for palestinians and israelis so we will
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for palestinians and israelis so we will
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see how
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see how
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how this would happen as for whether i
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how this would happen as for whether i
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have hope or not
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have hope or not
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you see you know in the in the middle
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you see you know in the in the middle
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east
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we're used to all kinds of speculation
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we're used to all kinds of speculation
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and prediction of what will happen in
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and prediction of what will happen in
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the future
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the future
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and whenever i was uh
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and whenever i was uh
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optimistic uh i was almost wrong
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optimistic uh i was almost wrong
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in the vast majority of my speculation
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in the vast majority of my speculation
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and my expectations
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and my expectations
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and whenever i was pessimistic i was
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and whenever i was pessimistic i was
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more more right than wrong
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more more right than wrong
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so it is always safer to in the middle
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so it is always safer to in the middle
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east to be more pessimistic and me
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east to be more pessimistic and me
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beyond on the on the side that things
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beyond on the on the side that things
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will go
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will go
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in in a bad direction and unfortunately
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in in a bad direction and unfortunately
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this is how i feel today especially with
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this is how i feel today especially with
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with
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with
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how things are evolving in israel and
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how things are evolving in israel and
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and how the
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and how the
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the process of forming a government has
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the process of forming a government has
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been going on for the last two years
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been going on for the last two years
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and there's a society that has been
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and there's a society that has been
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steadily moving to the right
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steadily moving to the right
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and even further to the right and then
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and even further to the right and then
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after this
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after this
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war that we had and i think they are
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war that we had and i think they are
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most likely going to have a fifth
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most likely going to have a fifth
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election it doesn't ogre well in
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election it doesn't ogre well in
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relation to
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relation to
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anticipating significant concessions on
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anticipating significant concessions on
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the israeli side
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the israeli side
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in relation to advancing peace
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in relation to advancing peace
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and if this is the case then i
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and if this is the case then i
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it would be very difficult for me to be
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it would be very difficult for me to be
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optimistic
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optimistic
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it's a very bad one to end on well i i'm
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it's a very bad one to end on well i i'm
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not going to let it happen
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not going to let it happen
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so let me ask you uh
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so let me ask you uh
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let's say pres president button called
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let's say pres president button called
you
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you
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you
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and he said hey someone i've heard so
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and he said hey someone i've heard so
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much about you and
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much about you and
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um tell me something i've got all sorts
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um tell me something i've got all sorts
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of problems as you know in the middle
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of problems as you know in the middle
east
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east
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east
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what would you do with um
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what would you do with um
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gaza and netanyahu or whoever
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gaza and netanyahu or whoever
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is running israel tell me something i
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is running israel tell me something i
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can do
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can do
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with each one of them that that should
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with each one of them that that should
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be said even if
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be said even if
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they may not like it but what
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they may not like it but what
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where should we go uh you've got a great
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where should we go uh you've got a great
reputation
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reputation
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reputation
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tell me tell me what each side has to do
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tell me tell me what each side has to do
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to make this work is this about human
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to make this work is this about human
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rights is about
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rights is about
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natural rights can compromise the
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natural rights can compromise the
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national rights can people be come
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national rights can people be come
together
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together
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together
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so please hisham give me
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so please hisham give me
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something i can stand on
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something i can stand on
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well uh it's about occupation
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well uh it's about occupation
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it's one word to see it's about
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it's one word to see it's about
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occupation and
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occupation and
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and i think uh also you know
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and i think uh also you know
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it can you know the israeli palestinian
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it can you know the israeli palestinian
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conflict cannot be simplified
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conflict cannot be simplified
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and i think one of the problems that
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and i think one of the problems that
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faced the previous administration is
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faced the previous administration is
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that it tries to simplify
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that it tries to simplify
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this issue much more than it costs
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this issue much more than it costs
possibly
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possibly
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possibly
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could be simplified and consider it more
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could be simplified and consider it more
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or less like a real estate uh
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or less like a real estate uh
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problem that can be solved with with the
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problem that can be solved with with the
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right approach and tunnels and bridges
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right approach and tunnels and bridges
and
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and
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and
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highways and so on um i think this
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highways and so on um i think this
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administration knows better
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administration knows better
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why because they have been dealing with
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why because they have been dealing with
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this issue much much stronger
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this issue much much stronger
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and president biden has been dealing
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and president biden has been dealing
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with this issue and knows about it for
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with this issue and knows about it for
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the last 50 years
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the last 50 years
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so the question also is related to
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so the question also is related to
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putting pressure to back so the united
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putting pressure to back so the united
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states says and the president biden said
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states says and the president biden said
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that the only answer is the two-state
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that the only answer is the two-state
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solution okay
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solution okay
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if this is the only answer and the
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if this is the only answer and the
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united states also said
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united states also said
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that those who would take steps that
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that those who would take steps that
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would jeopardize
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would jeopardize
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this approach uh
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this approach uh
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will be you know you know will be moving
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will be you know you know will be moving
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in the wrong direction
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in the wrong direction
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i think they have to make up their mind
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i think they have to make up their mind
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if this happens
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if this happens
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what are they going to do are they going
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what are they going to do are they going
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to put pressure to bear
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to put pressure to bear
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on the party's concern if they feel that
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on the party's concern if they feel that
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they
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they
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are jeopardizing what the u.s thinks is
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are jeopardizing what the u.s thinks is
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the only solution
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the only solution
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if this is the case then we can be on
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if this is the case then we can be on
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the right track
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the right track
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but if we continue to play with this
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but if we continue to play with this
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issue in a very timid way and trying to
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issue in a very timid way and trying to
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appease the the right in israel and and
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appease the the right in israel and and
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so on
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so on
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then i don't think that this would would
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then i don't think that this would would
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all go well
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all go well
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and there are many countries that are
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and there are many countries that are
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willing to help
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willing to help
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we spoke about egypt in the beginning
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we spoke about egypt in the beginning
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jordan as well is willing to help
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jordan as well is willing to help
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uh you know we have the alcohol we have
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uh you know we have the alcohol we have
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uh
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uh
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the munich group we have the middle east
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the munich group we have the middle east
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quartet we have the
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quartet we have the
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adult legion committee for assistance
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adult legion committee for assistance
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from the palestinians we have the u.n
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from the palestinians we have the u.n
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system
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system
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and so on we have all kinds of
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and so on we have all kinds of
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mechanisms i think what we're missing is
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mechanisms i think what we're missing is
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the political will
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the political will
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and if president biden decides that the
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and if president biden decides that the
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political will is there
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political will is there
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perhaps we can see a change
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perhaps we can see a change
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so thank you for your directness you
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so thank you for your directness you
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gave us all we wanted
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gave us all we wanted
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uh and such an exciting opening for our
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uh and such an exciting opening for our
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uh
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uh
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series and as i've said before thank you
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series and as i've said before thank you
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thank you
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thank you
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thank you and as i've said in so many
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thank you and as i've said in so many
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contexts
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contexts
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uh and so uh i i really want to thank
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uh and so uh i i really want to thank
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you for doing it
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you for doing it
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it's always a pleasure to talk to you on
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it's always a pleasure to talk to you on
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any issue whether it's palestinian
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any issue whether it's palestinian
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israeli conflict whether it's iran
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israeli conflict whether it's iran
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whether it's the regional
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whether it's the regional
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situation regional security or otherwise
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situation regional security or otherwise
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so it's a pleasure to have
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so it's a pleasure to have
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had this opportunity and thank you again
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had this opportunity and thank you again
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for making me the first in your series
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for making me the first in your series
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i look forward to continuing to watch
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i look forward to continuing to watch
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all those who will follow with the great
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all those who will follow with the great
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eagerness and
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eagerness and
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i'm sure it will be a great success
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i'm sure it will be a great success
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thank you steve
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thank you steve
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it's always exciting with you and we we
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it's always exciting with you and we we
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managed to talk about
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managed to talk about
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the problem of the moment in the world
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the problem of the moment in the world
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and uh at least we did it in a friendly
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and uh at least we did it in a friendly
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manner
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manner
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and we showed that you can have a nice
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and we showed that you can have a nice
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discussion
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discussion
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uh and not get too horrified
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uh and not get too horrified
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and maybe that's a lesson for all of us
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and maybe that's a lesson for all of us
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so uh uh uh uh
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so uh uh uh uh
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thanking you and thanking you uh uh
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thanking you and thanking you uh uh
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my uh my staff has asked me
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my uh my staff has asked me
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to let everybody know that siemen has
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to let everybody know that siemen has
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many exciting programs
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many exciting programs
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that are planned for the coming months
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that are planned for the coming months
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and if you are interested in learning
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and if you are interested in learning
more
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more
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more
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sign up for our mailing list shared on
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sign up for our mailing list shared on
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the screen
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the screen
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and in the chat uh window
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and in the chat uh window
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so let me say to all of you who've been
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so let me say to all of you who've been
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listening in
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listening in
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and you can always watch this again and
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and you can always watch this again and
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again if you want we have or
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again if you want we have or
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get friends uh uh uh uh
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get friends uh uh uh uh
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who are a part of the process uh in uh
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who are a part of the process uh in uh
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as well and somebody let me say
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as well and somebody let me say
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uh as we conclude hisham yusuf you're a
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uh as we conclude hisham yusuf you're a
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great guy
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great guy
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thank you so much thank you steve bye
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thank you so much thank you steve bye
bye<00:42:14.839> everyone
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you