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The CMED Roundtable Series will gather experts weekly to assess the Hamas attack and its impact on the region to make recommendations for the future. In Discussion 1, CMED Director Professor Steven Spiegel meets with Aaron David Miller, senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Robin Wright, senior fellow at the US Institute of Peace and the Woodrow Wilson Center. Discussion followed by audience Q&A.

The UCLA Center for Middle East Development hosted the event, "The Hamas Attack and Its Impact on the Region, Discussion 1," on October 26, 2023.

MEET OUR GUESTS

Aaron David Miller is a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, focusing on US foreign policy. He has written five books, including his most recent, “The End of Greatness: Why America Can’t Have (and Doesn’t Want) Another Great President” (Palgrave, 2014) and “The Much Too Promised Land: America’s Elusive Search for Arab-Israeli Peace” (Bantam, 2008). Between 1978 and 2003, Miller served at the State Department as a historian, analyst, negotiator, and advisor to Republican and Democratic secretaries of state, where he helped formulate US policy on the Middle East and the Arab-Israel peace process, most recently as the Senior Advisor for Arab-Israeli Negotiations. He also served as the Deputy Special Middle East Coordinator for Arab-Israeli Negotiations, senior member of the State Department’s Policy Planning Staff, in the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, and in the Office of the Historian. He has received the Department’s Distinguished, Superior, and Meritorious Honor Awards. From 2006 to 2019, Miller was a public policy scholar, vice president for new initiatives, and director of the Middle East Program at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. Miller is also a global affairs analyst for CNN. His articles have appeared in The New York Times, Washington Post, Politico, Foreign Policy, USA Today, and CNN.com. He is a frequent commentator on NPR, BBC, and Sirius XM Radio.

Robin Wright is a senior fellow at the US Institute of Peace and the Woodrow Wilson Center. She has reported from more than 140 countries for The New Yorker, The Washington Post, TIME, The New York Times Magazine, and the Los Angeles Times, among others. Wright has also been a fellow at the Brookings Institution, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Yale, Duke, Stanford, Dartmouth, and the University of California. She has received numerous awards for her work, including the UN Correspondents Association Gold Medal for international affairs and the National Magazine Award for Iran reportage, and the Overseas Press Club Award for her coverage of African wars. Wright has authored eight books.

MEET OUR HOST

Dr. Steven Spiegel is Director of the UCLA Center for Middle East Development. He is also a research professor of political science, focusing on international relations and American foreign policy in the Middle East. He has written over 100 books, articles, and papers. He is the author of “The Other Arab-Israeli Conflict: Making America’s Middle East Policy from Truman to Reagan,” and “World Politics in a New Era,” as well as one of the authors of "The Peace Puzzle: America’s Quest for Arab-Israeli Peace, 1989-2011.”

NEXT IN THE SERIES

In Discussion 2 , CMED Deputy Director Mani Jad meets with Mohammed Daraghmeh, bureau chief of Asharq News in Palestine, and Smadar Perry, Middle East senior editor at Yediot Aharonot in Israel. Discussion will be followed by audience Q&A.

In Discussion 3, CMED Distinguished Senior Fellow Steve Zipperstein meets with Dr. Hiba Husseini, managing partner at Husseini and Husseini Law in Palestine, and General (R.) Dr. Ephraim Sneh, former Israeli Minister. Discussion will be followed by audience Q&A.

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hello to everyone from around the world

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and thank you for joining us uh today

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and thank you for joining us uh today

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this is the first of a series that we

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Hamas uh attack and its impact on uh the

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Hamas uh attack and its impact on uh the

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region uh before we begin uh I'd like to

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region uh before we begin uh I'd like to

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co-sponsoring our discussion today as

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co-sponsoring our discussion today as

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well as the UCI International Institute

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well as the UCI International Institute

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for helping to promote the this vital

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important information what uh which I

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will go uh quickly uh on so we can start

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number one while you can see us we

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number one while you can see us we

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cannot see or hear you you should know

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you are joining us using Zoom Zoom

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here however you will not be able to add

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questions for our speakers please uh

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type them in the Q&A window also at the

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bottom of your screen you can ask one or

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both of our speakers be sure to include

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your questions in some cases we will

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introducing uh two two speakers both of

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introducing uh two two speakers both of

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whom uh I just think are fantastic and

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whom uh I just think are fantastic and

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they are two of the most important

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people at the kind of Crisis we are

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people at the kind of Crisis we are

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having now in the world and I just can't

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having now in the world and I just can't

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thank them enough for having uh uh

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joined us so we're going to be quick uh

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joined us so we're going to be quick uh

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so we get to as many uh uh uh questions

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so we get to as many uh uh uh questions

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and answers uh as we can in this limited

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and answers uh as we can in this limited

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time we have Aaron David Miller is uh

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time we have Aaron David Miller is uh

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has all sorts of uh positions we love

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has all sorts of uh positions we love

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watching him wife and I love watching

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watching him wife and I love watching

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him on uh TV he's a senior fellow at the

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him on uh TV he's a senior fellow at the

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Carnegie Endowment for International

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Peace he's always asking me to watch

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Peace he's always asking me to watch

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some of his material he has written five

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some of his material he has written five

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books uh he of course between 1978 and

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books uh he of course between 1978 and

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203 uh served as the state department as

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203 uh served as the state department as

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a historian he's got loads and loads of

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a historian he's got loads and loads of

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Articles he's uh as I say on TV Etc uh

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Articles he's uh as I say on TV Etc uh

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all the time Robin Wright is uh

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all the time Robin Wright is uh

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certainly one of the top authors about

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certainly one of the top authors about

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the kind of issues we're facing uh

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the kind of issues we're facing uh

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seeing in the country she's uh at the

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seeing in the country she's uh at the

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New Yorker she's a senior fellow at the

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New Yorker she's a senior fellow at the

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US Institute of Peace and the wood

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US Institute of Peace and the wood

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Wilson Center more she's been reported

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Wilson Center more she's been reported

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140 uh uh countries for the New Yorker

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140 uh uh countries for the New Yorker

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uh so I just want to say again two of

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uh so I just want to say again two of

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you thank you so much for joining us it

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you thank you so much for joining us it

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means so much to us so much to me and

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means so much to us so much to me and

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we're g to start with Aaron David

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we're g to start with Aaron David

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Miller Steve thanks so much it's really

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Miller Steve thanks so much it's really

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an honor to be here with you and and

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an honor to be here with you and and

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with Robin

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um uh who grew up in an arbor uh we

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um uh who grew up in an arbor uh we

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share a similar uh love affair with the

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share a similar uh love affair with the

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Wolverines Robin is one of the most

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Wolverines Robin is one of the most

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talented journalists and analysts that I

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talented journalists and analysts that I

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know and U it's always wonderful to to

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know and U it's always wonderful to to

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be with her I I I was going to just

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be with her I I I was going to just

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start Steve with three brief

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start Steve with three brief

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comments um not necessarily on the

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comments um not necessarily on the

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crisis itself but three sort of comments

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crisis itself but three sort of comments

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that have helped me these last several

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that have helped me these last several

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weeks uh sort of look at this and

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weeks uh sort of look at this and

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process it number one is humility what

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process it number one is humility what

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we know about this crisis un unfolding

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we know about this crisis un unfolding

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L um is diminished by what we do not

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breathlessly usually without perspective

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and without knowledge on some of the key

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and without knowledge on some of the key

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issues whether it's the hostages which

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is an incredibly opaque situation the

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looming Israeli ground campaign promised

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looming Israeli ground campaign promised

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perhaps evolving chances of escalation

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perhaps evolving chances of escalation

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on the Israeli leban border so much of

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on the Israeli leban border so much of

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what we're watching is opaque and really

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what we're watching is opaque and really

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beyond our capacity to Intuit it let

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beyond our capacity to Intuit it let

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alone analyze speculation uh can be

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alone analyze speculation uh can be

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harmful at times but it runs rampant now

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harmful at times but it runs rampant now

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and that calls for real discipline in my

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and that calls for real discipline in my

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judgment on our analysis and restraint

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judgment on our analysis and restraint

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in quickly reaching conclusions that

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in quickly reaching conclusions that

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aren't substantiated by facts and

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aren't substantiated by facts and

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empirical data that's Point 101 number

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empirical data that's Point 101 number

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Humanity Hamas is intentional and

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indiscriminate killing that took the

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indiscriminate killing that took the

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lives of 1400 Israelis on October 7 was

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lives of 1400 Israelis on October 7 was

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unprecedented and breathtaking in its

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unprecedented and breathtaking in its

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pure savagery and

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pure savagery and

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brutality at the same

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brutality at the same

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time those Horrors cannot and should not

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time those Horrors cannot and should not

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prevent us from

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understanding um both from the

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understanding um both from the

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perspective of our hearts and our minds

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perspective of our hearts and our minds

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suffering and the deaths of thousands of

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suffering and the deaths of thousands of

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Palestinians as a consequence of Israeli

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Palestinians as a consequence of Israeli

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strikes in an effort to strike back at

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strikes in an effort to strike back at

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Hamas as secretary blinkin has said

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Hamas as secretary blinkin has said

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there's no hierarchy when it comes to

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there's no hierarchy when it comes to

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the deaths of civilians in war be they

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the deaths of civilians in war be they

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Israelis or Palestinians and finally

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Israelis or Palestinians and finally

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just a note on Hope and history on

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just a note on Hope and history on

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October 6 1973 I was in Jerusalem and

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October 6 1973 I was in Jerusalem and

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watched an Israeli Society traumatized

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watched an Israeli Society traumatized

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October 1973 yum award and yet within

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October 1973 yum award and yet within

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six years of that trauma and the largest

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six years of that trauma and the largest

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intelligence failure to date uh that

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intelligence failure to date uh that

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trauma would turn to Hope with the

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trauma would turn to Hope with the

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signing of an Egyptian Israeli Peace Tre

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signing of an Egyptian Israeli Peace Tre

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which still endures however imperfect it

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which still endures however imperfect it

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may be 20 years later I watched on the

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may be 20 years later I watched on the

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White House lawn as President Clinton

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White House lawn as President Clinton

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Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and poo

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Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and poo

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chairman Yas arot signed the oso

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chairman Yas arot signed the oso

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Accords there great hope turned to

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we really cannot see what's in front of

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we really cannot see what's in front of

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us every breakthrough in the Arab

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us every breakthrough in the Arab

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Israeli conflict Zone I will not include

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Israeli conflict Zone I will not include

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the Abraham Accords because they are not

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the Abraham Accords because they are not

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what I would describe as a conflict Zone

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what I would describe as a conflict Zone

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agreement but everyone in the conflict

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agreement but everyone in the conflict

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Zone was preceded by Terror Insurgency

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Zone was preceded by Terror Insurgency

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and War whether it was the 73 War which

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and War whether it was the 73 War which

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produced SED Do's initiative whether it

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produced SED Do's initiative whether it

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was Baker's Madrid peace conference

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was Baker's Madrid peace conference

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which was driven in large part by

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which was driven in large part by

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saddam's invasion of Kuwait and the Bush

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saddam's invasion of Kuwait and the Bush

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41 administration's efforts to push him

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41 administration's efforts to push him

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out of Kuwait or or the oselot the

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out of Kuwait or or the oselot the

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failed ocel process and the successful

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Israeli Jordanian peace treaty which

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Israeli Jordanian peace treaty which

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were driven essentially by the first

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were driven essentially by the first

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inata and changing Israeli and

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Palestinian calculations about a

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diplomatic process the Arc of History

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diplomatic process the Arc of History

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bends in very unpredictable ways and

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bends in very unpredictable ways and

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maybe something of value will come out

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maybe something of value will come out

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of this crisis

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of this crisis

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uh but one thing is is clear clearly

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uh but one thing is is clear clearly

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evident hoping isn't

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evident hoping isn't

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enough uh if you want to bend the Arc of

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enough uh if you want to bend the Arc of

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History humans have to work tirelessly

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History humans have to work tirelessly

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in an effort to make sure it's bent in

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in an effort to make sure it's bent in

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direction uh Robin do you have any any

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direction uh Robin do you have any any

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uh anything else to say just as we

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uh anything else to say just as we

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start Erin's covered a lot uh and I'm

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start Erin's covered a lot uh and I'm

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always honored to to be on with Aon we

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always honored to to be on with Aon we

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our lives have cross intersected in any

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our lives have cross intersected in any

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number of ways um uh traveling with

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number of ways um uh traveling with

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secretaries of State uh being on the

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secretaries of State uh being on the

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same campus as students at gobl Michigan

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same campus as students at gobl Michigan

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um so and and we've shared uh positions

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um so and and we've shared uh positions

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at at think tanks as well um and we

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at at think tanks as well um and we

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agree on on a lot I think what I'd

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agree on on a lot I think what I'd

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probably do is I also covered I've

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probably do is I also covered I've

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covered this tragedy in the Middle East

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covered this tragedy in the Middle East

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for 50 years I landed in Beirut on

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for 50 years I landed in Beirut on

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October 6 1973 and I remember being at

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October 6 1973 and I remember being at

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the airport uh in Beirut in the transit

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the airport uh in Beirut in the transit

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Lounge I was actually on my way to Iran

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Lounge I was actually on my way to Iran

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and a woman whispered to me very

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and a woman whispered to me very

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anxiously the Egyptians have just

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anxiously the Egyptians have just

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crossed the Suez Canal um what we've

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crossed the Suez Canal um what we've

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really seen play out is the evolution of

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really seen play out is the evolution of

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a type of warfare that's important to

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a type of warfare that's important to

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understand uh between 1948 and 1973

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understand uh between 1948 and 1973

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Israel went through through four

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Israel went through through four

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conventional Wars but every war in the

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conventional Wars but every war in the

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half century since then has pitted

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half century since then has pitted

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Israel against a non-state actor be it

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Israel against a non-state actor be it

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the Palestinian Liberation Organization

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the Palestinian Liberation Organization

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has bull

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has bull

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Hamas um Hezbollah again Hamas again and

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it's very under important I think to

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it's very under important I think to

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understand the pattern of warfare

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understand the pattern of warfare

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because it is much harder to fight a

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because it is much harder to fight a

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non-state actor to fight a militia than

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non-state actor to fight a militia than

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it is to fight a state where you know

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it is to fight a state where you know

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what the Diplomatic address is what the

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what the Diplomatic address is what the

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potential diplomatic engagement might be

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potential diplomatic engagement might be

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and uh what an outcome might be in terms

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and uh what an outcome might be in terms

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of uh of peace and I think with an

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of uh of peace and I think with an

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unconventional actor a non-state actor

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unconventional actor a non-state actor

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you have basic question questions what

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you have basic question questions what

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is winning what is peace what is the

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is winning what is peace what is the

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alternative and all of these questions

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alternative and all of these questions

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are today

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are today

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unanswerable I think uh when I look at

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unanswerable I think uh when I look at

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where we are now I think we are at a

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where we are now I think we are at a

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precipice we are not about to fall off

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precipice we are not about to fall off

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the precipice but and I think in fact

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the precipice but and I think in fact

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that the the outside actors who are kind

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that the the outside actors who are kind

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of Quasi engaged or have a quazi have a

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of Quasi engaged or have a quazi have a

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stake in this conflict whether it's Iran

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stake in this conflict whether it's Iran

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on one side the unit States and the

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on one side the unit States and the

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other several militias in Yemen Iraq

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other several militias in Yemen Iraq

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Syria and Lebanon that that at this

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Syria and Lebanon that that at this

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point none of them want a bigger War but

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point none of them want a bigger War but

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as we all know from the history of

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as we all know from the history of

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conflict it takes one incident to

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conflict it takes one incident to

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escalate to get it out of control to

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escalate to get it out of control to

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lead us on a different trajectory and

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lead us on a different trajectory and

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the algorithm of this of this war is

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the algorithm of this of this war is

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different than any of the previous

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different than any of the previous

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conflicts between Israel and the

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conflicts between Israel and the

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non-state actors in that in the past it

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non-state actors in that in the past it

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has been a provocation by one one of the

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has been a provocation by one one of the

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militias an Israeli countered with air

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militias an Israeli countered with air

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strikes perhaps small grounds ground

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strikes perhaps small grounds ground

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actions uh but then got her in Egypt

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actions uh but then got her in Egypt

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particularly get go in and engage in in

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particularly get go in and engage in in

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um some kind of temporary ceasefire with

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um some kind of temporary ceasefire with

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the emphasis on temporary and the

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the emphasis on temporary and the

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problem is that none of the core

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problem is that none of the core

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questions uh that have defined this

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questions uh that have defined this

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conflict the fate of the Palestinians

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conflict the fate of the Palestinians

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you know the relations between Israel

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you know the relations between Israel

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and its uh Arab or Muslim neighbors have

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and its uh Arab or Muslim neighbors have

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been addressed since 1948 and there have

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been addressed since 1948 and there have

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been attempts now um kind of taking the

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been attempts now um kind of taking the

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my dad always said to understand any

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my dad always said to understand any

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conflict you have to stand on top of the

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conflict you have to stand on top of the

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world and look down and it's very good

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world and look down and it's very good

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advice right now uh I think what's

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advice right now uh I think what's

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important to understand is that uh since

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important to understand is that uh since

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since the 1970s for a half almost a half

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since the 1970s for a half almost a half

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century there has been slowly a

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century there has been slowly a

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tapestry uh that has been woven by play

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tapestry uh that has been woven by play

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players whether it's Israel and Egypt F

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players whether it's Israel and Egypt F

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first and then Israel and Jordan and

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first and then Israel and Jordan and

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then now through the Abraham Accords a

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then now through the Abraham Accords a

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tapestry and the tapestry has uh it's

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tapestry and the tapestry has uh it's

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not finished uh it's partially there but

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not finished uh it's partially there but

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it was bringing together different

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it was bringing together different

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threads different um types of government

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threads different um types of government

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different uh ethnicities and religions

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different uh ethnicities and religions

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in uh what what everyone what many

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in uh what what everyone what many

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players intended to be um you know a way

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players intended to be um you know a way

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countries didn't like each other had

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countries didn't like each other had

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different

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different

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religions uh but that could coexist in a

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religions uh but that could coexist in a

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kind of cold peace and my fear is that

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kind of cold peace and my fear is that

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this war and its consequences and Ain is

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this war and its consequences and Ain is

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absolutely right the

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absolutely right the

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consequences are are just huge huge huge

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consequences are are just huge huge huge

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and and in involve far more than the

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and and in involve far more than the

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fate of Israel and Hamas that that

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fate of Israel and Hamas that that

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tapestry unravels and we get back to

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tapestry unravels and we get back to

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zero and we have to start with pulling

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zero and we have to start with pulling

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the first two threads together and

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the first two threads together and

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that's how dangerous it is and just to

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that's how dangerous it is and just to

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give you a sampling of what that might

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give you a sampling of what that might

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be um does Israel eliminate Hamas uh at

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be um does Israel eliminate Hamas uh at

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least you know shortterm it's leadership

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least you know shortterm it's leadership

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it's destroy it its arsenals uh its

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it's destroy it its arsenals uh its

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command posts and so forth but does that

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command posts and so forth but does that

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lead to um you know a different

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lead to um you know a different

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Evolution a different idea a different

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Evolution a different idea a different

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group emerging does this uh cause such

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group emerging does this uh cause such

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anger and fury among Palestinians in the

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anger and fury among Palestinians in the

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West Bank that uh Israel regains

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West Bank that uh Israel regains

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temporarily control of God but loses

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temporarily control of God but loses

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West Bank as a potential interlocutor

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West Bank as a potential interlocutor

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and does this lead uh governments in the

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and does this lead uh governments in the

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region that have tried or been willing

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region that have tried or been willing

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to talk to Israel does that LE make it

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to talk to Israel does that LE make it

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impossible for them to move forward for

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impossible for them to move forward for

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years to come that the stakes here are

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years to come that the stakes here are

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so big um and on the last question you

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so big um and on the last question you

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know Iran and and all of this I think

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know Iran and and all of this I think

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what's really interesting is that the

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what's really interesting is that the

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militias have clearly uh in Iraq in

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militias have clearly uh in Iraq in

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Yemen in Lebanon have been probing

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Yemen in Lebanon have been probing

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have been uh the United States forces or

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have been uh the United States forces or

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B places where they have been based have

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B places where they have been based have

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been hit TW uh multiple times in Iraq

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been hit TW uh multiple times in Iraq

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and Syria um Iran's allies in Yemen have

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and Syria um Iran's allies in Yemen have

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have uh allegedly targeted Israel with

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have uh allegedly targeted Israel with

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missiles and drones that were shot down

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missiles and drones that were shot down

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by the us and one by Saudi Arabia um uh

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by the us and one by Saudi Arabia um uh

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but we haven't seen the escalation yet

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but we haven't seen the escalation yet

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and the question is will will that

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and the question is will will that

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change once the ground assault begins or

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change once the ground assault begins or

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are there certain boundaries that that

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are there certain boundaries that that

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are set in terms of how far the

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are set in terms of how far the

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escalation goes it'll escalate by all of

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escalation goes it'll escalate by all of

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them they'll be probing trying to get

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them they'll be probing trying to get

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the US the raise the cost of the US says

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the US the raise the cost of the US says

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oh we'll pull our forces out of 900 out

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oh we'll pull our forces out of 900 out

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of Syria and some of the 2500 out of

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of Syria and some of the 2500 out of

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Iraq which actually plays into Iran's

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Iraq which actually plays into Iran's

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hand that it gains side benefits from

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hand that it gains side benefits from

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this conflict so uh again this one as

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this conflict so uh again this one as

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Aon rightly said is just so big uh and

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Aon rightly said is just so big uh and

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will play out potentially for years to

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will play out potentially for years to

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come even if Israel makes military

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come even if Israel makes military

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Headway in the not too distant future

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Headway in the not too distant future

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against Hamas all right so uh we're

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against Hamas all right so uh we're

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gonna uh ask some questions and and and

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gonna uh ask some questions and and and

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and see uh how you you want to uh uh

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and see uh how you you want to uh uh

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answer them I'm getting some messages

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answer them I'm getting some messages

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from uh uh the team that prepares these

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from uh uh the team that prepares these

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so I don't have anything from the

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so I don't have anything from the

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audience yet but let me ask you uh uh

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audience yet but let me ask you uh uh

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this there is a rumor going on and I I'm

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this there is a rumor going on and I I'm

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interested what what the two of you

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interested what what the two of you

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think that

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think that

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um what what's really happening because

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um what what's really happening because

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the Saudi Israeli possibility was was

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the Saudi Israeli possibility was was

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hurt so badly by this attack that if uh

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hurt so badly by this attack that if uh

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Israel is able and that this is one of

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Israel is able and that this is one of

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the factors with for Israel that if

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the factors with for Israel that if

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Israel manages to uh destroy Hamas that

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Israel manages to uh destroy Hamas that

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that will improve the possibility ities

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that will improve the possibility ities

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of a

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of a

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uh of a Saudi Israeli uh new uh

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uh of a Saudi Israeli uh new uh

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relationship and and of course hurting

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relationship and and of course hurting

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uh hurting Iran it actually increases

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uh hurting Iran it actually increases

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their Rel their

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their Rel their

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relationship uh uh uh I also have

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relationship uh uh uh I also have

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another question I like to ask more than

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another question I like to ask more than

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one so you could skip one uh and that is

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one so you could skip one uh and that is

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um this comes from Mary uh Mary elen

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um this comes from Mary uh Mary elen

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hegland professor ameritus of Santa clar

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hegland professor ameritus of Santa clar

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university in the United States do you

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university in the United States do you

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think Netanyahu Bears any responsibility

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think Netanyahu Bears any responsibility

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for all of this by promoting illegal

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for all of this by promoting illegal

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Israeli settlements on Palestinian land

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Israeli settlements on Palestinian land

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so uh why don't we start with Aaron uh

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so uh why don't we start with Aaron uh

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since he started the first question has

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since he started the first question has

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had a moment to rest for uh uh and there

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had a moment to rest for uh uh and there

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are two questions you can answer one or

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are two questions you can answer one or

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both Aon uh on Saudi Arabia I think in

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both Aon uh on Saudi Arabia I think in

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Israeli Politics the famous saw is that

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Israeli Politics the famous saw is that

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you can be dead or dead and buried I

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you can be dead or dead and buried I

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think that the US Saudi Israeli

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think that the US Saudi Israeli

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normalization process is just dead it's

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normalization process is just dead it's

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not Clos for the season but I would note

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not Clos for the season but I would note

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this that if in fact the destruction of

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this that if in fact the destruction of

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Hamas occurs and that's something we

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Hamas occurs and that's something we

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should talk about Hamas is has an

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should talk about Hamas is has an

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administrative governing Sovereign

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administrative governing Sovereign

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structure it has a military structure

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structure it has a military structure

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it's also an the organizational

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it's also an the organizational

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embodiment of an idea and it has deep

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embodiment of an idea and it has deep

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root social and economic through the

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root social and economic through the

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dawa the so-called calling to uh

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dawa the so-called calling to uh

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Palestinians in in Gaza since the early

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Palestinians in in Gaza since the early

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80s so the destruction of Hamas and

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80s so the destruction of Hamas and

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Robin's point is is right on is going to

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Robin's point is is right on is going to

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create destruction of the death and

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create destruction of the death and

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destruction in

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destruction in

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Gaza largely against Palestinians

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Gaza largely against Palestinians

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civilians is going to undermine the

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civilians is going to undermine the

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prospects of

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legitimizing uh any Palestinian

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legitimizing uh any Palestinian

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interlocutor that is wants to presume to

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interlocutor that is wants to presume to

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negotiate in the wake of this uh MBs is

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negotiate in the wake of this uh MBs is

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38 years

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old uh assuming he gets to be king of

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old uh assuming he gets to be king of

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Saudi Arabia he will rule Saudi Arabia

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Saudi Arabia he will rule Saudi Arabia

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arguably for 50 or more years he will

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arguably for 50 or more years he will

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see during those 50 years six or seven

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see during those 50 years six or seven

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maybe more American Presidents come and

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maybe more American Presidents come and

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go he is pursuing a 360 degree foreign

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go he is pursuing a 360 degree foreign

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policy not tethering himself to the

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policy not tethering himself to the

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United States he sees China Rising in a

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United States he sees China Rising in a

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Saudi sense which is important he's not

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Saudi sense which is important he's not

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going to abandon Russia because of the

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going to abandon Russia because of the

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OPEC plus I think MBS will survey the

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OPEC plus I think MBS will survey the

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wreckage he wants things from the United

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wreckage he wants things from the United

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States much more important frankly than

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States much more important frankly than

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what happens on the Palestinian issue

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what happens on the Palestinian issue

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for him that was clearly the case before

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for him that was clearly the case before

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the Palestinian issue were way more

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the Palestinian issue were way more

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heavily now so I think he'll take his

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heavily now so I think he'll take his

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time and he'll make a judgment as to

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time and he'll make a judgment as to

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whether or not a he can get everything

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whether or not a he can get everything

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he wants from this Administration which

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he wants from this Administration which

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is a mutual defense treaty I might add

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is a mutual defense treaty I might add

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the last time the United

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the last time the United

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States submitted a mutual defense treaty

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States submitted a mutual defense treaty

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for ratification to the US Congress

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for ratification to the US Congress

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which which then has the force of

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which which then has the force of

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law that's what we're talking about was

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law that's what we're talking about was

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1960 I believe with a revision of the US

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1960 I believe with a revision of the US

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treaty he wants that from us I don't

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treaty he wants that from us I don't

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know if that's even possible and he

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know if that's even possible and he

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wants American help and the export of

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wants American help and the export of

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our nuclear technology presumably with

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our nuclear technology presumably with

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the right to control the fuel cycle

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the right to control the fuel cycle

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either under American oaces or not I I

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either under American oaces or not I I

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don't know he'll he'll make an

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don't know he'll he'll make an

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assessment in the wake of this and then

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assessment in the wake of this and then

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he'll he'll I think he'll

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he'll he'll I think he'll

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proceed I think I'll I'll I'll defer to

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proceed I think I'll I'll I'll defer to

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Robin in the interest of time other

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Robin in the interest of time other

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questions Robin

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oh Erin don't do that to me um I'm going

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oh Erin don't do that to me um I'm going

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to leave Israeli politics to you uh you

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to leave Israeli politics to you uh you

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know that far better than I I I'll make

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know that far better than I I I'll make

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a couple of points one I think that the

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a couple of points one I think that the

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war erupted not just because of the

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war erupted not just because of the

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Saudi Israel potential deal and I put

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Saudi Israel potential deal and I put

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the emphasis on potential I do briefings

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the emphasis on potential I do briefings

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all the time with the state department

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all the time with the state department

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the White House the NC and they

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the White House the NC and they

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emphasized this was a long way off that

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emphasized this was a long way off that

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a lot of discussion but it was hardly

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a lot of discussion but it was hardly

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imminent so I think that was maybe a

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imminent so I think that was maybe a

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factor in the thinking but I also think

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factor in the thinking but I also think

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that the um the discussion by some of

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that the um the discussion by some of

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the Hardline Israeli politicians about

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the Hardline Israeli politicians about

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what they want to do around the alak

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what they want to do around the alak

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sasque which is the third holiest Sid in

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sasque which is the third holiest Sid in

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uh Islam the operation as Hamas called

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uh Islam the operation as Hamas called

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it was alaka flood and that tells you

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it was alaka flood and that tells you

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one of the flash points I also think um

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one of the flash points I also think um

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that there were you know there were

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that there were you know there were

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increasing tensions on the West Bank and

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increasing tensions on the West Bank and

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Israel was focused on those tens

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Israel was focused on those tens

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tensions as was the United States when

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tensions as was the United States when

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it came to thinking about what the

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it came to thinking about what the

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warnings were what the dangers were and

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warnings were what the dangers were and

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I think those kinds of factors all came

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I think those kinds of factors all came

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together war is always a Confluence of

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together war is always a Confluence of

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factors but it also coincided with Hamas

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factors but it also coincided with Hamas

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capabilities and they have been with

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capabilities and they have been with

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each uh one of their confrontations with

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each uh one of their confrontations with

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Israel they have grown bigger uh worked

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Israel they have grown bigger uh worked

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harder at training built larger arsenals

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harder at training built larger arsenals

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have worked uh with their Iranian

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have worked uh with their Iranian

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sponsors and trainers and and uh so I

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sponsors and trainers and and uh so I

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think that you had all of these things

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think that you had all of these things

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come together and they felt this was the

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come together and they felt this was the

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right time uh to do to act for a variety

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right time uh to do to act for a variety

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of reasons and so I think we we we W

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of reasons and so I think we we we W

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think too much about the Saudi element

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think too much about the Saudi element

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um I agree with Aron I think uh um NBS

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um I agree with Aron I think uh um NBS

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the Crown Prince in Saudi Arabia is

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the Crown Prince in Saudi Arabia is

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playing the long game he wants he really

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playing the long game he wants he really

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wants the US to provide the kind of

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wants the US to provide the kind of

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protection to the kingdom that it does

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protection to the kingdom that it does

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to all of its European allies and I

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to all of its European allies and I

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think that's when when that became got

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think that's when when that became got

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closer I think that would be a very

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closer I think that would be a very

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controversial idea in Washington um I I

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controversial idea in Washington um I I

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want to say one thing on this H Hamas

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want to say one thing on this H Hamas

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question and based on the American

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question and based on the American

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Experience when we went into Iraq there

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Experience when we went into Iraq there

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was no Al-Qaeda uh the US liked to claim

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was no Al-Qaeda uh the US liked to claim

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there was but intelligence found there

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there was but intelligence found there

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wasn't but Al-Qaeda of Iraq emerged and

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wasn't but Al-Qaeda of Iraq emerged and

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the US

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slowly went after its leadership and

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slowly went after its leadership and

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managed to kill some of them and that

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managed to kill some of them and that

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Al-Qaeda of Iraq

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Al-Qaeda of Iraq

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uh evolved into um the Iraq uh the

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uh evolved into um the Iraq uh the

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Islamic State of Iraq and the US uh in

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Islamic State of Iraq and the US uh in

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an a strike killed that leader and it

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an a strike killed that leader and it

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only evolved further and wider into the

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only evolved further and wider into the

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Islamic State of Iraq and Syria Isis

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Islamic State of Iraq and Syria Isis

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which seized a third of Iraq and Syrian

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which seized a third of Iraq and Syrian

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territory to create a caliphate now the

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territory to create a caliphate now the

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caliphate no longer exists but Isis

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caliphate no longer exists but Isis

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still does and it also has franchises

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still does and it also has franchises

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now on three continents so I think we

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now on three continents so I think we

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have to um kind of be smart about what

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have to um kind of be smart about what

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is it that when you say you're going to

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is it that when you say you're going to

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eliminate Hamas what what is the

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eliminate Hamas what what is the

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alternative for the

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alternative for the

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Palestinians uh it's clear that fata

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Palestinians uh it's clear that fata

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which rules in the West Bank is has been

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which rules in the West Bank is has been

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rejected by the majority in and I think

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rejected by the majority in and I think

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uh the idea that the West Bank might one

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uh the idea that the West Bank might one

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day assume responsibility for Gaza as

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day assume responsibility for Gaza as

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non-starter uh I don't think the West

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non-starter uh I don't think the West

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Bank would want to do it would see that

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Bank would want to do it would see that

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as as a viable alternative and we're

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as as a viable alternative and we're

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struggling with what happens in the West

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struggling with what happens in the West

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Bank Frank

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Bank Frank

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politically um given the Actuarial

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politically um given the Actuarial

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charts and um president abas being in

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charts and um president abas being in

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his late 80s and having no obvious ER

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his late 80s and having no obvious ER

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parent that the the the Palestinians

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parent that the the the Palestinians

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have are at a more uncertain stage than

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have are at a more uncertain stage than

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at any time since they made peace with

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at any time since they made peace with

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Israel 1993 30 years ago so um again we

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Israel 1993 30 years ago so um again we

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need to be careful about or Israel needs

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need to be careful about or Israel needs

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to be smart about uh what it means by

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to be smart about uh what it means by

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eliminating Hamas and creating an

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eliminating Hamas and creating an

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environment that is secure for Israel I

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environment that is secure for Israel I

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think whatever it does militarily there

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think whatever it does militarily there

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are very few ways to guarantee uh the

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are very few ways to guarantee uh the

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willingness of the Palestinians after

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willingness of the Palestinians after

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this to want to engage with

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this to want to engage with

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Israel uh Erin do you want to say

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Israel uh Erin do you want to say

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anything about uh yeah I I'll I'll

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anything about uh yeah I I'll I'll

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address the other question look U there

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address the other question look U there

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there's going to be a reckoning after

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there's going to be a reckoning after

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1973 the grat commission filed an

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1973 the grat commission filed an

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interim report in April of 74 an interim

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interim report in April of 74 an interim

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report uh identifying key military and

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report uh identifying key military and

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security officials held responsible for

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security officials held responsible for

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the intelligence failure it left the

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the intelligence failure it left the

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Prime Minister then G Mayer untouch she

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Prime Minister then G Mayer untouch she

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was forced by public opinion to resign

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was forced by public opinion to resign

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there will be there will be a reckoning

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there will be there will be a reckoning

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in in answer to the specific question at

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in in answer to the specific question at

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minimum the policies pursued by this

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minimum the policies pursued by this

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Israeli government most extreme uh

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Israeli government most extreme uh

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fundamentalist even Jewish supremacist

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fundamentalist even Jewish supremacist

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government in the history of the state

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government in the history of the state

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Israel sent unmistakable signals to

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Israel sent unmistakable signals to

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Israel's

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Israel's

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adversaries that Israel was

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adversaries that Israel was

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divided and weakened and

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divided and weakened and

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distracted now it'll take a state commi

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distracted now it'll take a state commi

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Commission of inquiry to determine

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Commission of inquiry to determine

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exactly what was the

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exactly what was the

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relationship what was the state of

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relationship what was the state of

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Readiness and why why did the Israelis

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Readiness and why why did the Israelis

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not see this coming and the operational

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not see this coming and the operational

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failure that occurred in the time uh

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failure that occurred in the time uh

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between the when these attacks

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between the when these attacks

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began anywhere from 3 to 12

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began anywhere from 3 to 12

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hours and one last Point what is at

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hours and one last Point what is at

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stake here for the state of

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stake here for the state of

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Israel is the contract between the

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Israel is the contract between the

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governed and those who govern the

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governed and those who govern the

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legitimacy of government rests on its

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legitimacy of government rests on its

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capacity to protect its

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capacity to protect its

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citizenry the government of Israel

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citizenry the government of Israel

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failed galactically not only in not

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failed galactically not only in not

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anticipating this

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anticipating this

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but in

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but in

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responding to

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responding to

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that and thereupon you had the horror

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that and thereupon you had the horror

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stories which will continue to circulate

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stories which will continue to circulate

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the hostage situation which will

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the hostage situation which will

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continue to perpetuate that giving rise

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continue to perpetuate that giving rise

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to a

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to a

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generation of Israelis

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generation of Israelis

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scarred by what happened on October 7th

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scarred by what happened on October 7th

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and this Israeli

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and this Israeli

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government like all governments who

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government like all governments who

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preside over over times good or bad is

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preside over over times good or bad is

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responsible for

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responsible for

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that hard to believe that three four

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that hard to believe that three four

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years from now maybe less that Netanyahu

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years from now maybe less that Netanyahu

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will be prime minister but odd things

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will be prime minister but odd things

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happen sometimes in Democratic countries

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happen sometimes in Democratic countries

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uh but he does seem to be in big uh

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uh but he does seem to be in big uh

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trouble at least that's what I would

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trouble at least that's what I would

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think well we've got the questions as

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think well we've got the questions as

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usually happens building up uh Rabbi

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usually happens building up uh Rabbi

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Suzanne singer of Temple bethelen Los

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Suzanne singer of Temple bethelen Los

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Angeles I think is there a she asks is

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Angeles I think is there a she asks is

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there a way out of this conflict without

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there a way out of this conflict without

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pursuing

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pursuing

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War either one of you want to try that

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War either one of you want to try that

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I'm gonna give it to Robin because she

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I'm gonna give it to Robin because she

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hasn't gone first

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hasn't gone first

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yet uh I mean we are at War I this is

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yet uh I mean we are at War I this is

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the problem um you know the United

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the problem um you know the United

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States is trying to navigate a path

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States is trying to navigate a path

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right now where it allows Israel to to

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right now where it allows Israel to to

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uh take action against an adversary at

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uh take action against an adversary at

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the same time it's pressing to open

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the same time it's pressing to open

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humanitarian Corner Corners corridors

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humanitarian Corner Corners corridors

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from Egypt to to get in humanitarian

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from Egypt to to get in humanitarian

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supplies to those who are in a what is

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supplies to those who are in a what is

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Loosely called a safe Zone and it isn't

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Loosely called a safe Zone and it isn't

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uh and you know I think the the the hard

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uh and you know I think the the the hard

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part you know you you don't have many

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part you know you you don't have many

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countries that are willing to actually

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countries that are willing to actually

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help the Palestinians right now Egypt

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help the Palestinians right now Egypt

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doesn't want to take in refugees people

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doesn't want to take in refugees people

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who were already refugees when they were

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who were already refugees when they were

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in Gaza um because it fears being ending

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in Gaza um because it fears being ending

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up responsible for them if there's you

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up responsible for them if there's you

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know um if they can't go back to homes

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know um if they can't go back to homes

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or uh or jobs and

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or uh or jobs and

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it's I I think the United States is also

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it's I I think the United States is also

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deploying in the Middle East because it

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deploying in the Middle East because it

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wants to avoid a bigger War it's trying

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wants to avoid a bigger War it's trying

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to send a message that there's muscle

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to send a message that there's muscle

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out there if anybody tries anything

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out there if anybody tries anything

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bigger whether it's broader attacks on

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bigger whether it's broader attacks on

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US forces uh outside of the region us is

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US forces uh outside of the region us is

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about to deploy 2,000 Personnel on the

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about to deploy 2,000 Personnel on the

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ground and we're not sure where but the

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ground and we're not sure where but the

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the danger as the US learned in Beirut

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the danger as the US learned in Beirut

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in the early 1980s is when we deployed

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in the early 1980s is when we deployed

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peacekeepers and they ended up becoming

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peacekeepers and they ended up becoming

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targets and the US was forced to

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targets and the US was forced to

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withdraw having failed in its Mission

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withdraw having failed in its Mission

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and does the US presence new US presence

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and does the US presence new US presence

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in the region also make them targets um

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in the region also make them targets um

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now they will provide very uh powerful

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now they will provide very uh powerful

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defense mechanisms espe especially for

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defense mechanisms espe especially for

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the firing of missiles on US forces but

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the firing of missiles on US forces but

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again what happens if a militia in Iraq

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again what happens if a militia in Iraq

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that's backed by Iran fires something

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that's backed by Iran fires something

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real that that kills American troops at

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real that that kills American troops at

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Al alassad Air Base to pick one example

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Al alassad Air Base to pick one example

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in Northern Iraq what does the US do is

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in Northern Iraq what does the US do is

the

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the

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US Mila does it go after the backers in

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US Mila does it go after the backers in

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Iran that you know this is where these

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Iran that you know this is where these

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flash points that one thing can lead to

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flash points that one thing can lead to

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a much wider war and I think you have a

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a much wider war and I think you have a

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war and that's the reality on the ground

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war and that's the reality on the ground

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between Israel and Hamas and the

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between Israel and Hamas and the

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question now is can you prevent

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question now is can you prevent

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something bigger I think you can I think

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something bigger I think you can I think

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that's what the US is trying to do but

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that's what the US is trying to do but

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anytime um a major

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anytime um a major

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power becomes a player the US shot down

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power becomes a player the US shot down

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these missiles and drones that were

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these missiles and drones that were

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fired from the by the houthis in Yemen

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fired from the by the houthis in Yemen

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so the us has fired its first shot and

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so the us has fired its first shot and

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in some ways Iran has two through its

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in some ways Iran has two through its

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militias uh in at least three countries

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militias uh in at least three countries

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and so we're again as I said we're on

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and so we're again as I said we're on

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this precipice and it's trying to

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this precipice and it's trying to

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control um the you know hold back

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control um the you know hold back

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anybody from all the players from

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anybody from all the players from

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falling off that precipice right

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falling off that precipice right

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now you have Aon do you have anything

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now you have Aon do you have anything

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you want to add or should we go on

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you want to add or should we go on

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you've got you you've already had

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you've got you you've already had

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24 uh American troops wounded some with

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24 uh American troops wounded some with

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traumatic brain injuries and one

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traumatic brain injuries and one

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contractor who died of cardiac arrest so

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contractor who died of cardiac arrest so

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the the idea that pro-iranian militias

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the the idea that pro-iranian militias

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in Syria and Iraq would strike American

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in Syria and Iraq would strike American

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troops was already happened if in fact

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troops was already happened if in fact

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they find a an actual Target and kill

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they find a an actual Target and kill

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kill should kill large numbers you would

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kill should kill large numbers you would

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see you've got two carrier strike groups

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see you've got two carrier strike groups

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the second I think is should be there

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the second I think is should be there

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any day and over 200 Striker aircraft

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any day and over 200 Striker aircraft

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involved here

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involved here

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uh I do not see if you talk if we're

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uh I do not see if you talk if we're

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talking Regional escalation meaning a

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talking Regional escalation meaning a

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direct conflict between Israel and Iran

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direct conflict between Israel and Iran

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with Israeli aircraft and missiles

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with Israeli aircraft and missiles

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striking Iranian territory going after

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striking Iranian territory going after

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conventional unconventional sites I find

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conventional unconventional sites I find

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it almost impossible to imagine the US

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it almost impossible to imagine the US

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would stay out of that I think that that

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would stay out of that I think that that

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probability is still quite low

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probability is still quite low

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um an escalation between Israel and and

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um an escalation between Israel and and

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his bu

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his bu

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which would be far more deadly than the

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which would be far more deadly than the

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summer of 2006 where I will remind

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summer of 2006 where I will remind

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everyone that 5,000 guys in a militia

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everyone that 5,000 guys in a militia

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with relatively unsophisticated High

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with relatively unsophisticated High

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trajectory weapons shut down the

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trajectory weapons shut down the

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northern half of the middle east's most

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northern half of the middle east's most

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preeminent military power for 34

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preeminent military power for 34

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days that was 17 years

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days that was 17 years

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ago that that is an escalation worth

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ago that that is an escalation worth

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worrying about and I I I I I don't have

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worrying about and I I I I I don't have

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an answer as to whether or not that can

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an answer as to whether or not that can

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be avoided can I just add one thing

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be avoided can I just add one thing

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Steve that this week we marked the 40th

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Steve that this week we marked the 40th

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anniversary of the bayroot bombing where

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anniversary of the bayroot bombing where

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241 American peacekeepers and 58 French

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241 American peacekeepers and 58 French

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uh peacekeepers were killed by what was

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uh peacekeepers were killed by what was

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an embryo of Hezbollah uh it was the

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an embryo of Hezbollah uh it was the

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largest non-nuclear explosion on Earth

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largest non-nuclear explosion on Earth

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since World War II and uh the US always

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since World War II and uh the US always

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said it was going to get revenge for

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said it was going to get revenge for

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that and it hasn't but there it's it's

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that and it hasn't but there it's it's

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lurks in the in the minds of many still

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lurks in the in the minds of many still

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at the Pentagon um and I agree with

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at the Pentagon um and I agree with

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there and I I don't see for the moment

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there and I I don't see for the moment

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uh Israel going after Iran but I I

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uh Israel going after Iran but I I

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wouldn't be surprised at all given that

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wouldn't be surprised at all given that

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Israel has struck um airports uh in

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Israel has struck um airports uh in

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Syria both in Damascus and Aleppo that

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Syria both in Damascus and Aleppo that

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Israel goes after Iranian facilities or

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Israel goes after Iranian facilities or

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Munitions that are that are not in Iran

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Munitions that are that are not in Iran

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but are um in countries

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but are um in countries

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that weapon that could be used against

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that weapon that could be used against

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Israel I think it's preemptively engaged

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Israel I think it's preemptively engaged

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in actions

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in actions

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uh what I worry about is is the scenario

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uh what I worry about is is the scenario

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where there's something between Iran and

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where there's something between Iran and

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the United States uh you know Israel is

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the United States uh you know Israel is

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not going to go after Iran's nuclear

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not going to go after Iran's nuclear

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facilities right now that's just a

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facilities right now that's just a

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non-starter it doesn't have the

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non-starter it doesn't have the

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capabilities and and or the will um to

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capabilities and and or the will um to

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to launch a bigger War right now I do

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to launch a bigger War right now I do

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think that that that BB if he's still in

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think that that that BB if he's still in

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power or um those of his political ilk

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power or um those of his political ilk

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will want Iran to pay a price since it

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will want Iran to pay a price since it

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is complicit uh in all the activi the

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is complicit uh in all the activi the

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training the funding the Weaponry of the

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training the funding the Weaponry of the

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of its proxy allies in the so-called um

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of its proxy allies in the so-called um

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axis of resistance in the Middle East uh

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axis of resistance in the Middle East uh

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there will be some kind of cost ex

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there will be some kind of cost ex

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exacted down the road but I don't think

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exacted down the road but I don't think

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now the danger is the trip wire is set

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now the danger is the trip wire is set

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by some kind of um again as the the

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by some kind of um again as the the

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these militias in the region prob uh

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these militias in the region prob uh

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attack uh American targets and what is

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attack uh American targets and what is

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the red line for the United States on

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the red line for the United States on

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that and we saw this happen after the

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that and we saw this happen after the

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death of Suman when um the US

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death of Suman when um the US

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assassinated the head of an a

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assassinated the head of an a

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revolutionary guard Elite unit when he

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revolutionary guard Elite unit when he

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was visiting Baghdad and Iran responded

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was visiting Baghdad and Iran responded

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in the largest launch of missiles

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in the largest launch of missiles

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against US forces since the Korean War

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against US forces since the Korean War

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by attacking on the firing missiles at

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by attacking on the firing missiles at

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al-assad the base I mentioned earlier in

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al-assad the base I mentioned earlier in

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Northern Iraq um and the US you know

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Northern Iraq um and the US you know

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both sides stopped there the question is

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both sides stopped there the question is

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would both sides stop there in a similar

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would both sides stop there in a similar

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action similar confrontation uh as a

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action similar confrontation uh as a

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consequence of this war passions are

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consequence of this war passions are

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running so deep Fury and fear are so

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running so deep Fury and fear are so

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profound that the danger is that we

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profound that the danger is that we

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react um in ways that just provoke

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react um in ways that just provoke

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another round and a bigger

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another round and a bigger

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escalation all right we have from Ciro

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escalation all right we have from Ciro

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Egypt Muhammad nasia I hope I have that

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Egypt Muhammad nasia I hope I have that

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name right uh and he asks a very

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name right uh and he asks a very

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interesting question is valuing

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interesting question is valuing

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normalization between Arabs and Israel

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normalization between Arabs and Israel

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at the expense of true peace what caused

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at the expense of true peace what caused

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the recent attack by

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the recent attack by

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Hamas either one of I mean I'll I mean

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Hamas either one of I mean I'll I mean

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that's a it's a it's a question that

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that's a it's a it's a question that

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raises a very complicated and fraught

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raises a very complicated and fraught

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series of

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series of

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issues um thought

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issues um thought

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experiment the Biden Administration

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experiment the Biden Administration

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comes to

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comes to

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Washington in January of 2021 a lot of

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Washington in January of 2021 a lot of

other

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other

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other

priorities

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priorities

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priorities

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right uh eventually big priorities with

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right uh eventually big priorities with

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China and Russia and Ukraine but instead

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China and Russia and Ukraine but instead

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of focusing largely on the Israeli Arab

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of focusing largely on the Israeli Arab

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Interstate process which they did which

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Interstate process which they did which

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the Trump Administration

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the Trump Administration

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began it chooses to

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began it chooses to

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focus to some degree not pushing for a

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focus to some degree not pushing for a

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major comprehensive settlement between

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major comprehensive settlement between

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Israelis and Palestinians which

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Israelis and Palestinians which

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frankly was has been out of the Reach

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frankly was has been out of the Reach

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Out Of Reach for in my in my judgment

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Out Of Reach for in my in my judgment

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decades decides to to devote greater

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decades decides to to devote greater

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attention to the Israeli Palestinian

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attention to the Israeli Palestinian

problem

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problem

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problem

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okay would the Hamas attack of October 7

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okay would the Hamas attack of October 7

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still happened would would it have

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still happened would would it have

happened

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happened

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happened

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anywhere because I've encountered people

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anywhere because I've encountered people

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who blame this attack on Joe Biden on

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who blame this attack on Joe Biden on

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ignoring the Israeli Palestinian problem

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ignoring the Israeli Palestinian problem

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on focusing on Israeli Saudi

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on focusing on Israeli Saudi

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normalization and on the last four

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normalization and on the last four

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administrations frankly one or two of

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administrations frankly one or two of

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which I was involved in that simply

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which I was involved in that simply

didn't

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didn't

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didn't

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try to deal seriously with the Israeli

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try to deal seriously with the Israeli

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Palestinian problem my answer

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Palestinian problem my answer

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is the Hamas attack would probably have

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is the Hamas attack would probably have

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happened anyway because what we know

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happened anyway because what we know

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about the peace process the farther the

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about the peace process the farther the

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more progress is made the greater

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more progress is made the greater

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vulnerability it it it presents to

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vulnerability it it it presents to

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extremist groups of all

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extremist groups of all

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Persuasions um so uh I think that

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Persuasions um so uh I think that

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Israeli Saudi normalization may have

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Israeli Saudi normalization may have

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been a factor in Iranian thinking and in

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been a factor in Iranian thinking and in

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hamas's thinking because after all if

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hamas's thinking because after all if

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the Israelis and the Saudis normalize

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the Israelis and the Saudis normalize

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the entire notion of an a of a axis of

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the entire notion of an a of a axis of

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resistance composed of isbah and Iran

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resistance composed of isbah and Iran

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two Shia actors and a very important

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two Shia actors and a very important

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Sunni

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Sunni

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component which lends legitimacy to this

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component which lends legitimacy to this

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AIS of resistance might have been

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AIS of resistance might have been

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threatened I don't think frankly had the

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threatened I don't think frankly had the

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bid Administration focused on the

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bid Administration focused on the

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Israeli Palestinian issue that it with

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Israeli Palestinian issue that it with

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any degree of certainty we could have

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any degree of certainty we could have

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predicted that there would have been no

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predicted that there would have been no

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Hamas

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Hamas

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attack uh Robin you want to get in or

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attack uh Robin you want to get in or

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should we move on so I just quickly say

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should we move on so I just quickly say

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uh for first of all I think the we

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uh for first of all I think the we

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forget that Iran and Saudi Arabia had

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forget that Iran and Saudi Arabia had

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renewed relations for the first time in

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renewed relations for the first time in

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uh seven years they'd reopened embes and

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uh seven years they'd reopened embes and

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they were talking to each other uh

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they were talking to each other uh

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actually picking up the phone in the

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actually picking up the phone in the

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middle of this crisis uh so that you

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middle of this crisis uh so that you

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know I I I might differ a little bit

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know I I I might differ a little bit

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with u Erin on on that point I think the

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with u Erin on on that point I think the

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problem for the Biden Administration is

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problem for the Biden Administration is

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that it was trying to Transit transition

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that it was trying to Transit transition

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to the 21st century and we've got sucked

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to the 21st century and we've got sucked

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back into the 20th century in two Wars

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back into the 20th century in two Wars

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one in Ukraine facing our old Cold War

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one in Ukraine facing our old Cold War

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Nemesis and one with the Arab Israeli

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Nemesis and one with the Arab Israeli

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conflict uh Biden was determined as a

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conflict uh Biden was determined as a

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guy who spent his whole life doing

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guy who spent his whole life doing

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foreign policy to deal with the the

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foreign policy to deal with the the

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biggest threat challenge dealing facing

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biggest threat challenge dealing facing

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United States militarily economically

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United States militarily economically

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diplomatically in the world and which

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diplomatically in the world and which

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will be true for Mo most of the 21st

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will be true for Mo most of the 21st

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century and and the problem is that

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century and and the problem is that

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um we thought we could try a different

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um we thought we could try a different

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tact in dealing with the Arab Israeli

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tact in dealing with the Arab Israeli

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conflict uh broaden something that the

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conflict uh broaden something that the

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Trump administration had started that

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Trump administration had started that

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that the Obama administration had worked

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that the Obama administration had worked

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on and you know you go back president

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on and you know you go back president

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president and there have been this you

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president and there have been this you

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know again this tapestry all these

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know again this tapestry all these

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little threads that have been sewn

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little threads that have been sewn

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together uh and that it hoped that

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together uh and that it hoped that

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um that by you know dealing with

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um that by you know dealing with

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isolating Putin and trying to deal with

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isolating Putin and trying to deal with

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China or putting belittling the the

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China or putting belittling the the

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Russian uh Dimension that it could move

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Russian uh Dimension that it could move

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on and it found out that it couldn't and

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on and it found out that it couldn't and

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and that's the great Challenge and and I

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and that's the great Challenge and and I

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think when I look at the the

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think when I look at the the

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intersection of these two Wars right now

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intersection of these two Wars right now

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and the bigger questions of democracies

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and the bigger questions of democracies

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being increasingly dysfunctional

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being increasingly dysfunctional

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societies Democratic societies being

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societies Democratic societies being

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increasingly polarized I worry a lot

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increasingly polarized I worry a lot

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about how historians will look back on

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about how historians will look back on

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this juncture and think about about how

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this juncture and think about about how

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we blew it uh that all the institutions

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we blew it uh that all the institutions

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we built after World War II the United

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we built after World War II the United

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Nations which has been

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Nations which has been

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incapacitated um and is not even a

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incapacitated um and is not even a

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player really in in these conflicts

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player really in in these conflicts

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doesn't have much credibility um

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doesn't have much credibility um

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whatever the good intentions of its

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whatever the good intentions of its

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leadership that that the ideas of um of

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leadership that that the ideas of um of

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diplomacy The Rules of Engagement and

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diplomacy The Rules of Engagement and

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warfare that a lot of this a lot of the

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warfare that a lot of this a lot of the

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rules the institutions the ideas

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rules the institutions the ideas

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established after World War II human

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established after World War II human

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rights declaration are all kind of Up in

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rights declaration are all kind of Up in

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Smoke and so I think that as we think

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Smoke and so I think that as we think

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about this war in a state the size of

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about this war in a state the size of

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what Delaware New Jersey against Gaza

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what Delaware New Jersey against Gaza

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which is the size of Philadelphia that

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which is the size of Philadelphia that

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this has Global repercussions in in all

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this has Global repercussions in in all

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kinds of

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kinds of

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ways all right uh now we have Steve

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ways all right uh now we have Steve

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zipperstein uh uh who was part of our uh

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zipperstein uh uh who was part of our uh

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team as the professor at UCLA and he

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team as the professor at UCLA and he

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asked the following question who are

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asked the following question who are

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other winners and losers in the region

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other winners and losers in the region

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and Beyond as a result of the October

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and Beyond as a result of the October

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7th Kama surprise attack on Israel

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7th Kama surprise attack on Israel

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either one of you want to try

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either one of you want to try

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that if you stopped to I'll take it just

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that if you stopped to I'll take it just

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a it's a sort of a flip comment if you

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a it's a sort of a flip comment if you

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stopped uh the clock today right

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stopped uh the clock today right

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now and you froze the status

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now and you froze the status

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quo I would say that uh

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quo I would say that uh

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Iran the access of resistance

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Iran the access of resistance

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Hamas

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Hamas

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um and one counterintuitive winner which

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um and one counterintuitive winner which

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would be Israeli

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would be Israeli

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democracy because the judicial overhaul

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democracy because the judicial overhaul

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has been buried I would argue

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has been buried I would argue

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permanently as a consequence of what

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permanently as a consequence of what

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happened it's a tragic horrific sequence

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happened it's a tragic horrific sequence

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of events but I think

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of events but I think

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that may actually be I hate even to use

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that may actually be I hate even to use

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the word I mean right now I see very

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the word I mean right now I see very

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little that is positive anywhere but if

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little that is positive anywhere but if

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you stop the clock now I think that

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you stop the clock now I think that

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um those would be the four

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um those would be the four

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winners I'd love to weigh in on that um

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winners I'd love to weigh in on that um

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I actually think there are no winners I

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I actually think there are no winners I

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think uh that you know Iran could lose

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think uh that you know Iran could lose

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its proxy in Hamas least short term it's

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its proxy in Hamas least short term it's

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invested a lot in funding and and Armory

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invested a lot in funding and and Armory

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and so forth um and it's lost that that

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and so forth um and it's lost that that

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potential Wing uh so I'm not sure that

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potential Wing uh so I'm not sure that

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it wins very much and Iran is under more

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it wins very much and Iran is under more

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scrutiny now than it has been a long

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scrutiny now than it has been a long

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time at a time that it you know is

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time at a time that it you know is

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joining bricks it's renewing relations

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joining bricks it's renewing relations

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it's trying to be a you know get some

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it's trying to be a you know get some

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recognition as a legitimate State

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recognition as a legitimate State

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instead of being a constant Pariah I

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instead of being a constant Pariah I

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think the big winner out of all of this

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think the big winner out of all of this

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when we look at it historically will be

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when we look at it historically will be

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China looking at the United States

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China looking at the United States

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deploying its warships in the Eastern

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deploying its warships in the Eastern

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Mediterranean uh you know providing arms

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Mediterranean uh you know providing arms

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to Israel and Ukraine and paying less

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to Israel and Ukraine and paying less

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attention to what China feels free to do

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attention to what China feels free to do

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whatever it wants you know um and so

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whatever it wants you know um and so

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again let's I want to think of this in a

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again let's I want to think of this in a

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global context not just the region where

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global context not just the region where

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I actually think there are no winners I

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I actually think there are no winners I

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think Israel is going to pay a huge

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think Israel is going to pay a huge

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price uh the Palestinians are clearly

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price uh the Palestinians are clearly

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going to pay a big price I think there

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going to pay a big price I think there

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are uh the the governments that have

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are uh the the governments that have

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tried to make peace with Israel are

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tried to make peace with Israel are

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going to find it very hard to to move

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going to find it very hard to to move

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forward or or do anything meaningful um

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forward or or do anything meaningful um

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the Saudi deal such as it possibly was

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the Saudi deal such as it possibly was

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is uh dead in the water for now I just

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is uh dead in the water for now I just

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you know I don't see anybody coming out

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you know I don't see anybody coming out

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of this in a traditional sense of real

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of this in a traditional sense of real

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winner okay uh Rema and I hope I've got

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winner okay uh Rema and I hope I've got

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this right scare of Tunisia do you think

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this right scare of Tunisia do you think

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the mass protests and advocacy efforts

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the mass protests and advocacy efforts

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worldwide in solidarity with Palestine

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worldwide in solidarity with Palestine

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but especially in Europe and North

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but especially in Europe and North

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America America will push for a

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America America will push for a

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ceasefire in

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ceasefire in

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Gaza either one of you well they push

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Gaza either one of you well they push

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for a ceasefire there's already calls at

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for a ceasefire there's already calls at

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the UN both the security Council and the

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the UN both the security Council and the

general

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general

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general

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assembly for a ceasefire I don't see a

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assembly for a ceasefire I don't see a

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ceasefire I see possibility the

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ceasefire I see possibility the

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Administration has raised the issue of

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Administration has raised the issue of

humanitarian

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humanitarian

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humanitarian

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causes that could happen if there was

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causes that could happen if there was

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a massive release of

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a massive release of

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hostages um but no you know United

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hostages um but no you know United

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States has a veto power and Security

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States has a veto power and Security

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Council UN General Assembly resolutions

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Council UN General Assembly resolutions

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don't carry the force of

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don't carry the force of

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imperatives so I I it's hard for me to

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imperatives so I I it's hard for me to

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see uh any formal any formal ceasefire

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see uh any formal any formal ceasefire

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kicking into place right now can I add

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kicking into place right now can I add

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one thought on the hostage issue because

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one thought on the hostage issue because

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it's one I've covered uh I covered the

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it's one I've covered uh I covered the

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take over the US Embassy in Le in in

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take over the US Embassy in Le in in

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Iran in 1979 and stood at the foot of

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Iran in 1979 and stood at the foot of

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the steps of the plane in Algeria when

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the steps of the plane in Algeria when

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they flew to Freedom and in Beirut when

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they flew to Freedom and in Beirut when

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hisbah was uh seizing dozens of

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hisbah was uh seizing dozens of

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Americans one of them being Terry

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Americans one of them being Terry

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Anderson who had the office next door to

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Anderson who had the office next door to

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mine and he was held chained to a

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mine and he was held chained to a

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radiator for seven years that I think

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radiator for seven years that I think

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the hostage drama May well uh drag on

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the hostage drama May well uh drag on

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long long long after the cessation of

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long long long after the cessation of

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hostilities that this is the largest

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hostilities that this is the largest

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leverage that the Hamas still has uh and

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leverage that the Hamas still has uh and

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will exact a big price uh I suspect it

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will exact a big price uh I suspect it

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may allow more women children elderly

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may allow more women children elderly

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out uh but I think it will keep many of

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out uh but I think it will keep many of

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the men and uh when we look back on the

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the men and uh when we look back on the

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last big prisoner exchange uh Israel

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last big prisoner exchange uh Israel

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took five years to get uh gilad shalat

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took five years to get uh gilad shalat

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Shalit out and in exchange for

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Shalit out and in exchange for

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1,27 Palestinian prisoners so the fact

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1,27 Palestinian prisoners so the fact

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that that Hamas has over 200 or is

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that that Hamas has over 200 or is

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believed to still have over 200 that

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believed to still have over 200 that

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gives it enormous leverage uh in

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gives it enormous leverage uh in

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exacting con different kinds of

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exacting con different kinds of

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concessions from Israel the human drama

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concessions from Israel the human drama

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adds enormous amount as we saw when

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adds enormous amount as we saw when

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Americans went through hostage ordeals

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Americans went through hostage ordeals

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and the yellow ribbon became as much a

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and the yellow ribbon became as much a

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symbol of America as apple pie and

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symbol of America as apple pie and

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baseball Steve can I just add a point to

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baseball Steve can I just add a point to

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that sure it's a cruel dilemma that the

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that sure it's a cruel dilemma that the

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government of Israel faes on one hand

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government of Israel faes on one hand

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they have a commitment to I'll use the

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they have a commitment to I'll use the

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word avenging but more more

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word avenging but more more

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proactively preventing anything like

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proactively preventing anything like

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what has happened to 1400 Israelis from

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what has happened to 1400 Israelis from

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ever happening again on one hand their

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ever happening again on one hand their

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commitment to the dead but on the other

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commitment to the dead but on the other

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hand they have a national priority a

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hand they have a national priority a

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mission and a commitment to the

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mission and a commitment to the

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living and when I refer to the living

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living and when I refer to the living

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here I'm talking about the 150 hostages

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here I'm talking about the 150 hostages

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this is not an am strictly or mostly

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this is not an am strictly or mostly

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American story Story I mean there are 10

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American story Story I mean there are 10

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Americans unaccounted for H whether or

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Americans unaccounted for H whether or

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not and here's where the opacity the

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not and here's where the opacity the

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opaqueness of the hostage isue kicks in

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opaqueness of the hostage isue kicks in

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we have no good sense the administration

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we have no good sense the administration

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May the Israelis may have more details

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May the Israelis may have more details

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on this but how does any

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on this but how does any

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government make a

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government make a

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choice I think that the fate of the

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choice I think that the fate of the

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hostage is once the ground campaign

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hostage is once the ground campaign

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begins and if it is true and there have

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begins and if it is true and there have

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been reports that individual

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been reports that individual

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Palestinians Andor

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Palestinians Andor

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families have

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families have

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hostages Israelis drop leaflets over the

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hostages Israelis drop leaflets over the

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last several days offering Financial

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last several days offering Financial

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rewards to Palestinians who would

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rewards to Palestinians who would

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provide information on where the

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provide information on where the

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hostages are located I can't believe

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hostages are located I can't believe

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they would have dropped those

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they would have dropped those

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leaflets if they didn't have some sense

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leaflets if they didn't have some sense

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that Hamas and P palan Islamic Jihad

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that Hamas and P palan Islamic Jihad

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don't have control over all of the

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don't have control over all of the

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hostages I I think their situation

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hostages I I think their situation

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becomes increasingly

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becomes increasingly

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fraud uh once an Israeli operation

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fraud uh once an Israeli operation

begins

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begins

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begins

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uh duana Alexander of the UC Office of

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uh duana Alexander of the UC Office of

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the

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the

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President uh is the US really uh

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President uh is the US really uh

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president of the universities uh in

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president of the universities uh in

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California uh uh the major universities

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California uh uh the major universities

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is the US really pro-israel and Arab

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is the US really pro-israel and Arab

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solidarity plus Arab solidarity does the

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solidarity plus Arab solidarity does the

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US really want stronger Israel do they

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US really want stronger Israel do they

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at the same time try to keep them down

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at the same time try to keep them down

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just as much as supporting

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just as much as supporting

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them I I I turn over to Aon on this

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them I I I turn over to Aon on this

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one I have no I have no problem

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one I have no I have no problem

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answering this question if the question

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answering this question if the question

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is the United States

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is the United States

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pro-israel I didn't really catch the

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pro-israel I didn't really catch the

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other um the other part of the question

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other um the other part of the question

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is the US is really pro-israel plus Arab

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is the US is really pro-israel plus Arab

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solidarity does the US really want

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solidarity does the US really want

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stronger Israel do they at the same time

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stronger Israel do they at the same time

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try to keep them down just as much as

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try to keep them down just as much as

supporting

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supporting

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supporting

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them keep who

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them keep who

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down I me it's it's not I with all due

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down I me it's it's not I with all due

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respect to the questioner so it's a tad

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respect to the questioner so it's a tad

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confusing look I think that if if

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confusing look I think that if if

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someone said to me um on October 6 how

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someone said to me um on October 6 how

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do you think the administration would

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do you think the administration would

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react in the event Hamas uh brutally and

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react in the event Hamas uh brutally and

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savagely uh and indiscriminately

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savagely uh and indiscriminately

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uh killed 1400 Israelis including 260 at

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uh killed 1400 Israelis including 260 at

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Nova uh music festival which now stands

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Nova uh music festival which now stands

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as the largest single concert

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as the largest single concert

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catastrophe uh passing the

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catastrophe uh passing the

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baklan uh Paris concert which 130 people

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baklan uh Paris concert which 130 people

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were killed 260 Israelis were were shot

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were killed 260 Israelis were were shot

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and

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and

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murdered I would have said the

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murdered I would have said the

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administration would

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administration would

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react in a very pro-israel manner one

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react in a very pro-israel manner one

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because of the brutality and and

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because of the brutality and and

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Slaughter of October 7 two because you

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Slaughter of October 7 two because you

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have an American president and the

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have an American president and the

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presidential model here is not Barack

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presidential model here is not Barack

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Obama it's Bill

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Obama it's Bill

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Clinton they're a generation part but

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Clinton they're a generation part but

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their views on Israel are incredibly

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their views on Israel are incredibly

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similar both believe for emotional and

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similar both believe for emotional and

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political reasons support for Israel is

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political reasons support for Israel is

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imprinted on their emotional and

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imprinted on their emotional and

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political

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political

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DNA uh and you saw that in the October

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DNA uh and you saw that in the October

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10 speech that Biden gave which is one

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10 speech that Biden gave which is one

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of the most powerful of his presiden you

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of the most powerful of his presiden you

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saw that in the visit and the

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saw that in the visit and the

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unmistakable signal that the

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unmistakable signal that the

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administration sent initially was was

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administration sent initially was was

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we're going to give the Israelis the

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we're going to give the Israelis the

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time the space and the support to do

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time the space and the support to do

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what they think they need to do with

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what they think they need to do with

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respect to Hamas and Gaza now that frame

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respect to Hamas and Gaza now that frame

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has begun to evolve over the course of

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has begun to evolve over the course of

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the last two weeks in response to the

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the last two weeks in response to the

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humanitarian

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humanitarian

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catastrophe that is continuing to occur

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catastrophe that is continuing to occur

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in Gaza the deaths of thousands of

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in Gaza the deaths of thousands of

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Palestinians and and the

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Palestinians and and the

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destruction as a consequence of an

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destruction as a consequence of an

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Israeli blockade and Israeli air strikes

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Israeli blockade and Israeli air strikes

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designed to pressure Hamas and to uh

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designed to pressure Hamas and to uh

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presumably pave the way for an Israeli

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presumably pave the way for an Israeli

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ground campaign that's one factor second

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ground campaign that's one factor second

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the hostages the Administration has

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the hostages the Administration has

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bought time and space from the Israelis

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bought time and space from the Israelis

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to uh allow possible negotiations to

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to uh allow possible negotiations to

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free more and three I think the

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free more and three I think the

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administration they sent a three star

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administration they sent a three star

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general with experience in counter

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general with experience in counter

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Insurgency which is frankly fascinating

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Insurgency which is frankly fascinating

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to me they are intimately now involved

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to me they are intimately now involved

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and at least raising

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and at least raising

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questions uh on what the Israelis intend

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questions uh on what the Israelis intend

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to do do they have the means at their

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to do do they have the means at their

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disposal to do it and more important

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disposal to do it and more important

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what about the day after so I think the

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what about the day after so I think the

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administration's position has evolved

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administration's position has evolved

President

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President

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President

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yesterday uh made a fascinating comment

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yesterday uh made a fascinating comment

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warning in very strong terms about

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warning in very strong terms about

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Israeli settlers who were killing

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Israeli settlers who were killing

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Palestinians uh that was uh certainly in

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Palestinians uh that was uh certainly in

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response to an effort to broaden the

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response to an effort to broaden the

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frame to be sensitive more sensitive toh

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frame to be sensitive more sensitive toh

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what is happening to Palestinians on the

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what is happening to Palestinians on the

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ground but on balance the answer to the

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ground but on balance the answer to the

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question is we are not an honest br ER

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question is we are not an honest br ER

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when it comes to these matters we have a

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when it comes to these matters we have a

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special relationship with Israel for any

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special relationship with Israel for any

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number of reasons and I think you saw

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number of reasons and I think you saw

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that reflected in the president's view

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that reflected in the president's view

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one one additional point the logic

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one one additional point the logic

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of um trying to get close to the

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of um trying to get close to the

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Israelis during a crisis to inspire

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Israelis during a crisis to inspire

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trust and

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trust and

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confidence uh by an American president

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confidence uh by an American president

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is presumably designed sometimes it

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is presumably designed sometimes it

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works sometimes it doesn't to be able to

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works sometimes it doesn't to be able to

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have additional leverage for the hard

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have additional leverage for the hard

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conversations and the tough

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conversations and the tough

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conversations that are certain to follow

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conversations that are certain to follow

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and I'm saying to you we haven't even

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and I'm saying to you we haven't even

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begun I think to encounter those tough

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begun I think to encounter those tough

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conversations they will come in the

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conversations they will come in the

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event the Israelis do in fact launch a a

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event the Israelis do in fact launch a a

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massive ground Campaign which they may

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massive ground Campaign which they may

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not at any rate it's my my

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not at any rate it's my my

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sense all right uh first of all I want

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sense all right uh first of all I want

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to say we're running out of time uh and

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to say we're running out of time uh and

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therefore we're not going to uh we've

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therefore we're not going to uh we've

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got a lot of we got a few questions left

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got a lot of we got a few questions left

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I'm trying to get them all in but we're

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I'm trying to get them all in but we're

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not going to accept uh more questions uh

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not going to accept uh more questions uh

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any longer you can let us know and we'll

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any longer you can let us know and we'll

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try to get them answered uh let's see

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try to get them answered uh let's see

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here we have Samir shawa from Gaza

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here we have Samir shawa from Gaza

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living in London with large large family

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living in London with large large family

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in Gaza there are many American

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in Gaza there are many American

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Palestinians gathered at Rafa Crossing

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Palestinians gathered at Rafa Crossing

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for two weeks trying to leave Gaza via

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for two weeks trying to leave Gaza via

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Egypt but the administration is unable

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Egypt but the administration is unable

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to find a solution for them would a

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to find a solution for them would a

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ground Invasion really destroy Kamas and

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ground Invasion really destroy Kamas and

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save the

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save the

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hostages either one of you want to start

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hostages either one of you want to start

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that I'd make a comment not on the

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that I'd make a comment not on the

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latter two points comment we have to go

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latter two points comment we have to go

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on anyway so let's make but on on on

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on anyway so let's make but on on on

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American citizens anywhere from four to

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American citizens anywhere from four to

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600 I do not this is where it's really

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600 I do not this is where it's really

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opaque I do not understand th those

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opaque I do not understand th those

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people are essentially hostage

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people are essentially hostage

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why why haven't they been able to leave

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why why haven't they been able to leave

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Rafa I I have no explanation for that uh

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Rafa I I have no explanation for that uh

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Tony blinkin two days ago said it was

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Tony blinkin two days ago said it was

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because Hamas was blocking them from

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because Hamas was blocking them from

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leaving I've heard reports that the

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leaving I've heard reports that the

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Egyptians are not uh because Hamas is

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Egyptians are not uh because Hamas is

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checking people through that Crossing

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checking people through that Crossing

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Egypt is literally

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Egypt is literally

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micromanaging any human that goes

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micromanaging any human that goes

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through that

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through that

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Crossing um I have no explanation but it

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Crossing um I have no explanation but it

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is a serious

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is a serious

demonstration

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demonstration

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demonstration

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of actually I'm not sure what I because

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of actually I'm not sure what I because

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I can't understand why why those

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I can't understand why why those

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leave okay we've got uh Natalie Brill a

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leave okay we've got uh Natalie Brill a

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member of C ctj synagogue I assume it's

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member of C ctj synagogue I assume it's

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in Los Angeles I could be wrong don't

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in Los Angeles I could be wrong don't

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you think that getting rid of Kamas will

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you think that getting rid of Kamas will

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help the Palestinians as they are a

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help the Palestinians as they are a

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terrorist organization shouldn't we all

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terrorist organization shouldn't we all

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excuse me all hope that eliminating

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excuse me all hope that eliminating

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terrorism should be a goal to create a

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terrorism should be a goal to create a

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Palestinians uh I'll take that briefly

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Palestinians uh I'll take that briefly

look

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look

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look

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uh the United States pressed the

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uh the United States pressed the

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Palestinians to hold an election in 2006

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Palestinians to hold an election in 2006

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on the premise that they that or the

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on the premise that they that or the

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belief that fata would win and fat was

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belief that fata would win and fat was

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willing to engage with the Israelis and

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willing to engage with the Israelis and

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it turned out that the Palestinians were

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it turned out that the Palestinians were

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disillusioned with the corruption

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disillusioned with the corruption

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nepotism mismanagement of fata um felt

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nepotism mismanagement of fata um felt

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that they had not uh in 13 years managed

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that they had not uh in 13 years managed

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to make any progress on the Oslo Accords

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to make any progress on the Oslo Accords

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and a lot of them I covered that

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and a lot of them I covered that

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election I was on the ground and it was

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election I was on the ground and it was

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clear that Hamas was going to win uh and

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clear that Hamas was going to win uh and

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it and it did so uh and the irony is

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it and it did so uh and the irony is

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that Israel actually encouraged the

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that Israel actually encouraged the

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creation of an islamist alternative the

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creation of an islamist alternative the

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PLO back in the late 1980s because it

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PLO back in the late 1980s because it

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thought it's a religious movement not a

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thought it's a religious movement not a

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nationalist movement it was not going to

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nationalist movement it was not going to

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be a challenge and so both Israel and

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be a challenge and so both Israel and

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the United States uh bear some

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the United States uh bear some

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culpability for uh what what has become

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culpability for uh what what has become

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Hamas this is where sometimes you have

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Hamas this is where sometimes you have

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one intention as the United States did

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one intention as the United States did

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in Iraq and you something else happens

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in Iraq and you something else happens

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uh so yeah I think the majority of

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uh so yeah I think the majority of

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Palestinians may not support Hamas right

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Palestinians may not support Hamas right

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now the the polling that's been done uh

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now the the polling that's been done uh

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shows that that many still support the

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shows that that many still support the

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idea of some kind of resistance to

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idea of some kind of resistance to

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Israel because they're so angry that

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Israel because they're so angry that

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there has not been any agreement that

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there has not been any agreement that

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gives them de uh Freedom dignity and you

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gives them de uh Freedom dignity and you

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know ends the blockade that's gone on

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know ends the blockade that's gone on

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for more than a decade uh the the danger

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for more than a decade uh the the danger

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as I said earlier is you you don't kill

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as I said earlier is you you don't kill

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the idea of resistance even if you

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the idea of resistance even if you

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manage to kill many of the leaders um

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manage to kill many of the leaders um

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the Israelis assassinated the head of

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the Israelis assassinated the head of

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the founder of Islamic Jihad and you

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the founder of Islamic Jihad and you

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know it's been a major Factor believes

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know it's been a major Factor believes

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is believed a whole sum of the hostages

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is believed a whole sum of the hostages

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and um has engaged in its own clashes

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and um has engaged in its own clashes

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with uh Israel so you know this is where

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with uh Israel so you know this is where

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yes absolutely all none of it we should

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yes absolutely all none of it we should

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all reject all forms of terrorism uh the

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all reject all forms of terrorism uh the

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question is how do you find political

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question is how do you find political

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solutions to military confrontations and

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solutions to military confrontations and

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it always involves politics every major

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it always involves politics every major

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war has been ended formally because of

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war has been ended formally because of

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of Pol politics and diplomacy and that's

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of Pol politics and diplomacy and that's

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where we don't see both Aaron and I

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where we don't see both Aaron and I

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think we don't see how this plays out in

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think we don't see how this plays out in

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a way that um that achieves Israel's

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a way that um that achieves Israel's

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goals of peace and security and also

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goals of peace and security and also

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provides a solution for the Palestinians

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provides a solution for the Palestinians

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and you know there are two sides and two

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and you know there are two sides and two

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parties to a conflict

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parties to a conflict

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and and guns alone killing alone doesn't

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and and guns alone killing alone doesn't

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solve the

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solve the

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problem okay we move on could I just um

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problem okay we move on could I just um

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I the right I think was a great answer

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I the right I think was a great answer

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on Robin SP can I just make a public

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on Robin SP can I just make a public

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service announcement but it's also

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service announcement but it's also

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educational next Thursday at noon I'm

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educational next Thursday at noon I'm

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interviewing khil shikake who is my for

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interviewing khil shikake who is my for

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my money the preeminent Palestinian

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my money the preeminent Palestinian

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pollster and analist in these matters

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pollster and analist in these matters

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and the issue we're gonna unpack the

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and the issue we're gonna unpack the

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issue of Palestinian support for Hamas

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issue of Palestinian support for Hamas

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so I will send you an invite you can

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so I will send you an invite you can

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circulate it as as if if appropriate and

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circulate it as as if if appropriate and

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can I just point out something there I

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can I just point out something there I

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did a a book and I profiled

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did a a book and I profiled

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um khil and his brother and how one

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um khil and his brother and how one

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within one family you see two brothers

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within one family you see two brothers

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close growing up together uh take very

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close growing up together uh take very

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different paths khil is you know teaches

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different paths khil is you know teaches

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at brandise he engages actively with

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at brandise he engages actively with

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Jewish groups he was very involved with

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Jewish groups he was very involved with

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the the secret peace negotiations with

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the the secret peace negotiations with

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Israel back in the early 90s he is as

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Israel back in the early 90s he is as

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thoughtful as you will ever find on on

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thoughtful as you will ever find on on

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the issue of the Palestinians with data

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the issue of the Palestinians with data

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not just the kind of emotions but it was

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not just the kind of emotions but it was

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his brother

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his brother

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who founded Islamic

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who founded Islamic

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Jihad yeah and so this is again that

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Jihad yeah and so this is again that

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that it is how do you direct the energy

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that it is how do you direct the energy

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um of of a people uh in a way that they

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um of of a people uh in a way that they

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are willing to coexist with each other

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are willing to coexist with each other

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and that applies to both sides and one

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and that applies to both sides and one

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of them is a very close friend of

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of them is a very close friend of

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Israelis and the other one was was

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Israelis and the other one was was

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killed by the

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killed by the

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Israelis yes so amazing yes all rightman

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Israelis yes so amazing yes all rightman

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khabib from Sudan what are the

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khabib from Sudan what are the

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possibilities of building an

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possibilities of building an

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International Alliance including

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International Alliance including

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countries from the Arab world to fight

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countries from the Arab world to fight

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Hamas hisbah and other Iran elements to

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Hamas hisbah and other Iran elements to

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form the new Middle East if plausible

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form the new Middle East if plausible

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how successful would this IDE idea be

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how successful would this IDE idea be

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can we have a quick answer it was

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can we have a quick answer it was

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successful in terms of the uh

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successful in terms of the uh

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International Coalition to defeat da the

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International Coalition to defeat da the

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Islamic State um but an international

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Islamic State um but an international

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coalition to fight Hamas and Gaza

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coalition to fight Hamas and Gaza

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strikes me as a very bad idea and it it

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strikes me as a very bad idea and it it

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it's not feasible some sort of uh

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it's not feasible some sort of uh

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security Force might be part of the day

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security Force might be part of the day

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after which could be underwritten and

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after which could be underwritten and

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resourced by the International Community

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resourced by the International Community

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um but even that at this point is uh

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um but even that at this point is uh

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more Theory than than

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more Theory than than

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practice all right um we're trying to

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practice all right um we're trying to

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get so many uh in I'm going to ask two

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get so many uh in I'm going to ask two

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here that have been I've been very close

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here that have been I've been very close

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to the end we all understand the

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to the end we all understand the

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undivided supports that the US provides

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undivided supports that the US provides

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to Israel do you think it's wise if the

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to Israel do you think it's wise if the

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US forces get involved on the ground

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US forces get involved on the ground

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what implications will such a move cause

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what implications will such a move cause

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other fronts to join like uh Lebanon and

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other fronts to join like uh Lebanon and

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Iran and from MOA and AI from Morocco

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Iran and from MOA and AI from Morocco

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and old friend what will happen if

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and old friend what will happen if

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Israel invite invades Gaza how will

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Israel invite invades Gaza how will

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Hezbollah and Iran react is the

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Hezbollah and Iran react is the

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two-state solution still VI still viable

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two-state solution still VI still viable

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we can spend hours on this but let's try

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we can spend hours on this but let's try

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not

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not

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to I think I answered the question about

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to I think I answered the question about

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what if the puts troops on the ground

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what if the puts troops on the ground

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the fact is they um may may may

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the fact is they um may may may

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demonstrate muscle symbolically but do

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demonstrate muscle symbolically but do

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they also become targets uh we have to

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they also become targets uh we have to

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be very wise about where we deploy under

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be very wise about where we deploy under

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what terms and uh understand what uh

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what terms and uh understand what uh

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types of actions will elicit us

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types of actions will elicit us

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intervention we need to be incredibly

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intervention we need to be incredibly

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careful we have a long history of

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careful we have a long history of

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intervening in the Middle East and

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intervening in the Middle East and

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failing time after time uh and leading

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failing time after time uh and leading

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to American deaths

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to American deaths

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too okay so do we we have a Aon do you

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too okay so do we we have a Aon do you

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have the other question two-state

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have the other question two-state

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solution even though the vast number of

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solution even though the vast number of

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humans many of whom I respect deeply

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humans many of whom I respect deeply

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believe that the two-state solution has

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believe that the two-state solution has

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gone the way of the

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gone the way of the

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dodo uh I still cling to the notion that

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dodo uh I still cling to the notion that

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it is the least bad solution to resolve

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it is the least bad solution to resolve

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this conflict because it is the only

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this conflict because it is the only

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solution that deals with the demographic

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solution that deals with the demographic

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Geographic

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religious and

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religious and

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political

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political

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uh roots of his conflict there is no

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uh roots of his conflict there is no

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precedent for two national groups

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precedent for two national groups

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competing for religious space and

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competing for religious space and

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territory to be

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territory to be

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housed either in a one-state reality

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housed either in a one-state reality

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controlled by Israel which is a

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controlled by Israel which is a

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prescription for ending unending

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prescription for ending unending

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conflict or violence or in some one

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conflict or violence or in some one

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state solution in which Israelis and

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state solution in which Israelis and

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Palestinians live

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Palestinians live

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happily ever after separation through

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happily ever after separation through

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negotiation in my judgment is the only

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negotiation in my judgment is the only

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way there is no alternative even if it

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way there is no alternative even if it

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ends up being a confederal structure

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ends up being a confederal structure

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separation through negotiation is the

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separation through negotiation is the

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only

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only

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way uh to produce anything remotely

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way uh to produce anything remotely

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resembling a conflict ending

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resembling a conflict ending

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solution all right I have three

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solution all right I have three

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questions left I'm G to ask them all and

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questions left I'm G to ask them all and

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see what you can do because we're uh at

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see what you can do because we're uh at

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our uh and Antonio uh from Athens uh uh

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our uh and Antonio uh from Athens uh uh

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Greece also a close friend the situation

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Greece also a close friend the situation

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on the ground remains fast moving and

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on the ground remains fast moving and

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complex but once the Israel Kamas war

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complex but once the Israel Kamas war

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ends how feasible and realistic would it

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ends how feasible and realistic would it

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be to create a new road map for

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be to create a new road map for

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re-engaging Israel and Palestine in a

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re-engaging Israel and Palestine in a

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comprehensive peace process of friend

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comprehensive peace process of friend

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devars uh very close uh Mary Elaine

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devars uh very close uh Mary Elaine

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heglin from the USAA given the anger and

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heglin from the USAA given the anger and

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distress of Arab and Muslim nations do

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distress of Arab and Muslim nations do

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you think the attack on Palestinians oh

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you think the attack on Palestinians oh

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my will uh uh lead uh to World War III

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my will uh uh lead uh to World War III

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and uh I believe there was one other I

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and uh I believe there was one other I

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didn't ask Eric sar from the USA do you

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didn't ask Eric sar from the USA do you

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think Israel should have released all

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think Israel should have released all

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the glory pictures and videos so the

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the glory pictures and videos so the

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world would understand that just like

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world would understand that just like

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Nazi Germany nothing justify such

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Nazi Germany nothing justify such

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violence and Kamas cannot be allowed to

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violence and Kamas cannot be allowed to

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exist question mark lots of other

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exist question mark lots of other

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questions some were double people had

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questions some were double people had

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asked earlier I apologize if we uh

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asked earlier I apologize if we uh

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missed you but uh we did get most of you

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missed you but uh we did get most of you

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and now uh not so nice we ask uh our

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and now uh not so nice we ask uh our

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speakers to do what they can for the

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speakers to do what they can for the

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last three

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last three

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questions I'd say no on World War I a

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questions I'd say no on World War I a

categoric

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categoric

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categoric

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no uh on releasing pictures the Israelis

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no uh on releasing pictures the Israelis

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have already released a compilation of

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have already released a compilation of

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footage from Hamas head cams to foreign

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footage from Hamas head cams to foreign

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journalists I have not seen

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journalists I have not seen

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them uh but I think they underscore the

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them uh but I think they underscore the

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savagery and the brutal brutality and

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savagery and the brutal brutality and

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the intentional

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the intentional

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indiscriminate killing intentional and

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indiscriminate killing intentional and

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indiscriminate killing which crossed a

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indiscriminate killing which crossed a

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new

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threshold um which will Echo for a very

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threshold um which will Echo for a very

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very long

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very long

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time and Robin do you have any thought

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time and Robin do you have any thought

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uh on not World War I because you don't

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uh on not World War I because you don't

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have this is one that involves the

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have this is one that involves the

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region you're not going to see Russia

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region you're not going to see Russia

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and China uh have play any major role so

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and China uh have play any major role so

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I I I don't think on that question I

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I I I don't think on that question I

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think uh you know this business of our

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think uh you know this business of our

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idea of having another road map I mean

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idea of having another road map I mean

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the road map has gone any number of road

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the road map has gone any number of road

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maps have gone no place that they really

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maps have gone no place that they really

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if there is some kind of movement it

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if there is some kind of movement it

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needs to be very Swift and not kind of

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needs to be very Swift and not kind of

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be a handshake and let's figure out the

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be a handshake and let's figure out the

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details later I don't think that's going

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details later I don't think that's going

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to work um uh you you need something

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to work um uh you you need something

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kind of this is cataclysmic in terms of

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kind of this is cataclysmic in terms of

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the the the

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the the the

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war and it needs some kind of huge

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war and it needs some kind of huge

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Dynamic tangible uh agreement or deal to

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Dynamic tangible uh agreement or deal to

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move forward and I don't see that coming

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move forward and I don't see that coming

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anytime soon alas on the pictures the

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anytime soon alas on the pictures the

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problem is the internet and U one of the

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problem is the internet and U one of the

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most you know it's it's it's beyond

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most you know it's it's it's beyond

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control and I've read already that

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control and I've read already that

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there's been a lot of misinformation

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there's been a lot of misinformation

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disinformation uh propaganda and um

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disinformation uh propaganda and um

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whether it's by both sides I you know I

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whether it's by both sides I you know I

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I don't know the numbers but I just seen

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I don't know the numbers but I just seen

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a lot of reporting on that uh that

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a lot of reporting on that uh that

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exploiting the the tragedies that are

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exploiting the the tragedies that are

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playing out on the ground uh and you

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playing out on the ground uh and you

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know I you don't

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know I you don't

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need I mean one picture alone can tell

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need I mean one picture alone can tell

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you how how awful this is

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you how how awful this is

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uh and so anyway I uh I hope that we can

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uh and so anyway I uh I hope that we can

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have another conversation on a more

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have another conversation on a more

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hopeful basis uh but we are at that

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hopeful basis uh but we are at that

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Turning Point um we talk about

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Turning Point um we talk about

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inflection points all the time but um

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inflection points all the time but um

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this is one that that affects everybody

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this is one that that affects everybody

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and and let's hope people react

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and and let's hope people react

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thoughtfully and um and look for

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thoughtfully and um and look for

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Solutions Alternatives that are tangible

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Solutions Alternatives that are tangible

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not just the vague idea of winning or

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not just the vague idea of winning or

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avenging um because that doesn't produce

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avenging um because that doesn't produce

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a tangible outcome for all of us just

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a tangible outcome for all of us just

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one additional point to add to Robin's

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one additional point to add to Robin's

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eloquent finish if I worry about one

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eloquent finish if I worry about one

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thing uh is the absence of leadership

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thing uh is the absence of leadership

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yeah anything that's going to happen

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yeah anything that's going to happen

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anything in a positive meaningful way

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anything in a positive meaningful way

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will depend on Israeli and Palestinian

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will depend on Israeli and Palestinian

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leaders who are not prisoners of their

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leaders who are not prisoners of their

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politics or their

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politics or their

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ideologies but who have invested in this

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ideologies but who have invested in this

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because they believe it is actually in

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because they believe it is actually in

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the best interest of their people it's

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the best interest of their people it's

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going to depend on American leadership

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going to depend on American leadership

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to stand up and adopt a an approach that

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to stand up and adopt a an approach that

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is perceived to be Equitable and durable

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is perceived to be Equitable and durable

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in terms of moving toward a solution but

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in terms of moving toward a solution but

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without leadership we're going to

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without leadership we're going to

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drift and we know what happens when we

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drift and we know what happens when we

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drift well I can't thank the two of you

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drift well I can't thank the two of you

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enough uh I knew you'd be the best of

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enough uh I knew you'd be the best of

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course and you are and it was and I hope

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course and you are and it was and I hope

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that everyone has a feeling for the

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that everyone has a feeling for the

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situation that it might not have had

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situation that it might not have had

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before the pluses and the minuses of

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before the pluses and the minuses of

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course and that's why they're so great

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course and that's why they're so great

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uh uh that that's why uh Aon and Robin

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uh uh that that's why uh Aon and Robin

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are so uh great because uh

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are so uh great because uh

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they understand the good and the bad uh

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they understand the good and the bad uh

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so thank you thank you thank you and

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so thank you thank you thank you and

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maybe we can talk about something

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maybe we can talk about something

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positive before long doesn't seem like

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positive before long doesn't seem like

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that right now but maybe I'm wrong but

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that right now but maybe I'm wrong but

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still we are all GNA fight for the good

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still we are all GNA fight for the good

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and that's why we are where we are and

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and that's why we are where we are and

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I'd like to thank our team for creating

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I'd like to thank our team for creating

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this opportunity for us to talk today

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this opportunity for us to talk today

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Manny Jad Salam mahajer Emily ble and

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Manny Jad Salam mahajer Emily ble and

Lori<01:08:59.400> Lee<01:09:00.400> uh<01:09:00.520> Seaman<01:09:01.000> has<01:09:01.239> quite<01:09:01.480> a<01:09:01.600> bit<01:09:01.799> to

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Lori Lee uh Seaman has quite a bit to

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Lori Lee uh Seaman has quite a bit to

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offer in the next few weeks please see

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offer in the next few weeks please see

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our screen for uh upcoming weekly

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our screen for uh upcoming weekly

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discussions in this Roundtable series we

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discussions in this Roundtable series we

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were so fortunate to have uh uh the very

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were so fortunate to have uh uh the very

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best with us for our uh opening but we

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best with us for our uh opening but we

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know the others uh that you see now will

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know the others uh that you see now will

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be uh important as well uh uh in ter in

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be uh important as well uh uh in ter in

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terms of our series on the Kamas attack

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terms of our series on the Kamas attack

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and its impact on the region uh if you

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and its impact on the region uh if you

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have not already joined our mailing list

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have not already joined our mailing list

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please add your name uh link is on the

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please add your name uh link is on the

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screen or send a message to us at CED

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screen or send a message to us at CED

cmed<01:09:42.839> international.

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cmed international.

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cmed international.

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ucla.edu and so uh I hope to see you

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ucla.edu and so uh I hope to see you

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soon and let me say for all of us bye

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soon and let me say for all of us bye

for<01:09:52.719> now

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