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WEBINAR: The Hamas Attack and Its Impact on the Region, Discussion 1

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The UCLA Center for Middle East Development hosted the event, "The Hamas Attack and Its Impact on the Region, Discussion 1," on October 26, 2023.

The CMED Roundtable Series will gather experts weekly to assess the Hamas attack and its impact on the region to make recommendations for the future. In Discussion 1, CMED Director Professor Steven Spiegel meets with Aaron David Miller, senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Robin Wright, senior fellow at the US Institute of Peace and the Woodrow Wilson Center. Discussion followed by audience Q&A.

MEET OUR GUESTS

Aaron David Miller is a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, focusing on US foreign policy. He has written five books, including his most recent, “The End of Greatness: Why America Can’t Have (and Doesn’t Want) Another Great President” (Palgrave, 2014) and “The Much Too Promised Land: America’s Elusive Search for Arab-Israeli Peace” (Bantam, 2008). Between 1978 and 2003, Miller served at the State Department as a historian, analyst, negotiator, and advisor to Republican and Democratic secretaries of state, where he helped formulate US policy on the Middle East and the Arab-Israel peace process, most recently as the Senior Advisor for Arab-Israeli Negotiations. He also served as the Deputy Special Middle East Coordinator for Arab-Israeli Negotiations, senior member of the State Department’s Policy Planning Staff, in the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, and in the Office of the Historian. He has received the Department’s Distinguished, Superior, and Meritorious Honor Awards. From 2006 to 2019, Miller was a public policy scholar, vice president for new initiatives, and director of the Middle East Program at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. Miller is also a global affairs analyst for CNN. His articles have appeared in The New York Times, Washington Post, Politico, Foreign Policy, USA Today, and CNN.com. He is a frequent commentator on NPR, BBC, and Sirius XM Radio. 

 

Robin Wright is a senior fellow at the US Institute of Peace and the Woodrow Wilson Center. She has reported from more than 140 countries for The New Yorker, The Washington Post, TIME, The New York Times Magazine, and the Los Angeles Times, among others. Wright has also been a fellow at the Brookings Institution, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Yale, Duke, Stanford, Dartmouth, and the University of California. She has received numerous awards for her work, including the UN Correspondents Association Gold Medal for international affairs and the National Magazine Award for Iran reportage, and the Overseas Press Club Award for her coverage of African wars. Wright has authored eight books.

 

MEET OUR HOST

Dr. Steven Spiegel is Director of the UCLA Center for Middle East Development. He is also a research professor of political science, focusing on international relations and American foreign policy in the Middle East. He has written over 100 books, articles, and papers. He is the author of “The Other Arab-Israeli Conflict: Making America’s Middle East Policy from Truman to Reagan,” and “World Politics in a New Era,” as well as one of the authors of "The Peace Puzzle: America’s Quest for Arab-Israeli Peace, 1989-2011.”

 

 

 NEXT IN THE SERIES

In Discussion 2, CMED Deputy Director Mani Jad meets with Mohammed Daraghmeh, bureau chief of Asharq News in Palestine, and Smadar Perry, Middle East senior editor at Yediot Aharonot in Israel. Discussion will be followed by audience Q&A. 

In Discussion 3, CMED Distinguished Senior Fellow Steve Zipperstein meets with Dr. Hiba Husseini, managing partner at Husseini and Husseini Law in Palestine, and General (R.) Dr. Ephraim Sneh, former Israeli Minister. Discussion will be followed by audience Q&A.



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hello to everyone from around the world

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and thank you for joining us uh today

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and thank you for joining us uh today

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this is the first of a series that we

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Hamas uh attack and its impact on uh the

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Hamas uh attack and its impact on uh the

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region uh before we begin uh I'd like to

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region uh before we begin uh I'd like to

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take a moment to thank the UCL

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take a moment to thank the UCL

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Department of political science for

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co-sponsoring our discussion today as

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well as the UCI International Institute

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well as the UCI International Institute

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for helping to promote the this vital

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for helping to promote the this vital

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event begins please note the following

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important information what uh which I

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important information what uh which I

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number one while you can see us we

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cannot see or hear you you should know

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you are joining us using Zoom Zoom

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you are joining us using Zoom Zoom

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here however you will not be able to add

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questions for our speakers please uh

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questions for our speakers please uh

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type them in the Q&A window also at the

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bottom of your screen you can ask one or

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both of our speakers be sure to include

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your questions in some cases we will

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your questions concise so we can answer

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uh there I uh want to begin by

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introducing uh two two speakers both of

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introducing uh two two speakers both of

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whom uh I just think are fantastic and

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whom uh I just think are fantastic and

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they are two of the most important

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people at the kind of Crisis we are

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people at the kind of Crisis we are

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having now in the world and I just can't

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having now in the world and I just can't

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thank them enough for having uh uh

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thank them enough for having uh uh

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joined us so we're going to be quick uh

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joined us so we're going to be quick uh

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so we get to as many uh uh uh questions

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so we get to as many uh uh uh questions

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and answers uh as we can in this limited

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and answers uh as we can in this limited

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time we have Aaron David Miller is uh

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time we have Aaron David Miller is uh

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has all sorts of uh positions we love

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has all sorts of uh positions we love

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watching him wife and I love watching

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watching him wife and I love watching

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him on uh TV he's a senior fellow at the

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him on uh TV he's a senior fellow at the

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Carnegie Endowment for International

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Peace he's always asking me to watch

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Peace he's always asking me to watch

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some of his material he has written five

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some of his material he has written five

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books uh he of course between 1978 and

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books uh he of course between 1978 and

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203 uh served as the state department as

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203 uh served as the state department as

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a historian he's got loads and loads of

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a historian he's got loads and loads of

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Articles he's uh as I say on TV Etc uh

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Articles he's uh as I say on TV Etc uh

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all the time Robin Wright is uh

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all the time Robin Wright is uh

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certainly one of the top authors about

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certainly one of the top authors about

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the kind of issues we're facing uh

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the kind of issues we're facing uh

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seeing in the country she's uh at the

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seeing in the country she's uh at the

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New Yorker she's a senior fellow at the

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New Yorker she's a senior fellow at the

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US Institute of Peace and the wood

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US Institute of Peace and the wood

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Wilson Center more she's been reported

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Wilson Center more she's been reported

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140 uh uh countries for the New Yorker

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140 uh uh countries for the New Yorker

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uh so I just want to say again two of

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uh so I just want to say again two of

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you thank you so much for joining us it

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you thank you so much for joining us it

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means so much to us so much to me and

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means so much to us so much to me and

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we're g to start with Aaron David

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we're g to start with Aaron David

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Miller Steve thanks so much it's really

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Miller Steve thanks so much it's really

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an honor to be here with you and and

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an honor to be here with you and and

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um uh who grew up in an arbor uh we

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um uh who grew up in an arbor uh we

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share a similar uh love affair with the

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share a similar uh love affair with the

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Wolverines Robin is one of the most

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Wolverines Robin is one of the most

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talented journalists and analysts that I

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talented journalists and analysts that I

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know and U it's always wonderful to to

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know and U it's always wonderful to to

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be with her I I I was going to just

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be with her I I I was going to just

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start Steve with three brief

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start Steve with three brief

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comments um not necessarily on the

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comments um not necessarily on the

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crisis itself but three sort of comments

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crisis itself but three sort of comments

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that have helped me these last several

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that have helped me these last several

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weeks uh sort of look at this and

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weeks uh sort of look at this and

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process it number one is humility what

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process it number one is humility what

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we know about this crisis un unfolding

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we know about this crisis un unfolding

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L um is diminished by what we do not

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breathlessly usually without perspective

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and without knowledge on some of the key

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is an incredibly opaque situation the

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looming Israeli ground campaign promised

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looming Israeli ground campaign promised

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perhaps evolving chances of escalation

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perhaps evolving chances of escalation

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on the Israeli leban border so much of

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what we're watching is opaque and really

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what we're watching is opaque and really

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beyond our capacity to Intuit it let

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beyond our capacity to Intuit it let

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alone analyze speculation uh can be

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alone analyze speculation uh can be

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harmful at times but it runs rampant now

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harmful at times but it runs rampant now

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and that calls for real discipline in my

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and that calls for real discipline in my

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judgment on our analysis and restraint

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judgment on our analysis and restraint

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in quickly reaching conclusions that

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in quickly reaching conclusions that

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aren't substantiated by facts and

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aren't substantiated by facts and

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empirical data that's Point 101 number

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empirical data that's Point 101 number

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Humanity Hamas is intentional and

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indiscriminate killing that took the

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indiscriminate killing that took the

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lives of 1400 Israelis on October 7 was

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lives of 1400 Israelis on October 7 was

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unprecedented and breathtaking in its

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unprecedented and breathtaking in its

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pure savagery and

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pure savagery and

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brutality at the same

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time those Horrors cannot and should not

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time those Horrors cannot and should not

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prevent us from

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understanding um both from the

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understanding um both from the

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perspective of our hearts and our minds

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perspective of our hearts and our minds

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suffering and the deaths of thousands of

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suffering and the deaths of thousands of

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Palestinians as a consequence of Israeli

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Palestinians as a consequence of Israeli

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strikes in an effort to strike back at

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strikes in an effort to strike back at

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Hamas as secretary blinkin has said

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Hamas as secretary blinkin has said

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there's no hierarchy when it comes to

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there's no hierarchy when it comes to

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the deaths of civilians in war be they

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the deaths of civilians in war be they

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Israelis or Palestinians and finally

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Israelis or Palestinians and finally

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just a note on Hope and history on

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just a note on Hope and history on

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October 6 1973 I was in Jerusalem and

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October 6 1973 I was in Jerusalem and

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watched an Israeli Society traumatized

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watched an Israeli Society traumatized

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by the

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October 1973 yum award and yet within

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October 1973 yum award and yet within

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six years of that trauma and the largest

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six years of that trauma and the largest

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intelligence failure to date uh that

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intelligence failure to date uh that

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trauma would turn to Hope with the

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trauma would turn to Hope with the

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signing of an Egyptian Israeli Peace Tre

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signing of an Egyptian Israeli Peace Tre

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which still endures however imperfect it

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which still endures however imperfect it

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may be 20 years later I watched on the

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may be 20 years later I watched on the

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White House lawn as President Clinton

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White House lawn as President Clinton

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Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and poo

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Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and poo

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chairman Yas arot signed the oso

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chairman Yas arot signed the oso

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Accords there great hope turned to

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Accords there great hope turned to

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we really cannot see what's in front of

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we really cannot see what's in front of

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us every breakthrough in the Arab

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us every breakthrough in the Arab

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Israeli conflict Zone I will not include

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Israeli conflict Zone I will not include

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the Abraham Accords because they are not

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the Abraham Accords because they are not

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what I would describe as a conflict Zone

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what I would describe as a conflict Zone

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agreement but everyone in the conflict

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agreement but everyone in the conflict

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Zone was preceded by Terror Insurgency

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Zone was preceded by Terror Insurgency

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and War whether it was the 73 War which

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and War whether it was the 73 War which

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produced SED Do's initiative whether it

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produced SED Do's initiative whether it

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was Baker's Madrid peace conference

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was Baker's Madrid peace conference

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which was driven in large part by

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which was driven in large part by

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saddam's invasion of Kuwait and the Bush

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saddam's invasion of Kuwait and the Bush

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41 administration's efforts to push him

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41 administration's efforts to push him

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out of Kuwait or or the oselot the

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out of Kuwait or or the oselot the

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failed ocel process and the successful

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Israeli Jordanian peace treaty which

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Israeli Jordanian peace treaty which

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were driven essentially by the first

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were driven essentially by the first

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inata and changing Israeli and

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Palestinian calculations about a

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diplomatic process the Arc of History

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diplomatic process the Arc of History

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bends in very unpredictable ways and

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bends in very unpredictable ways and

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maybe something of value will come out

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maybe something of value will come out

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of this crisis

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of this crisis

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uh but one thing is is clear clearly

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uh but one thing is is clear clearly

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evident hoping isn't

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evident hoping isn't

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enough uh if you want to bend the Arc of

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enough uh if you want to bend the Arc of

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History humans have to work tirelessly

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History humans have to work tirelessly

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in an effort to make sure it's bent in

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in an effort to make sure it's bent in

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direction uh Robin do you have any any

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direction uh Robin do you have any any

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uh anything else to say just as we

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uh anything else to say just as we

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start Erin's covered a lot uh and I'm

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start Erin's covered a lot uh and I'm

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always honored to to be on with Aon we

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always honored to to be on with Aon we

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our lives have cross intersected in any

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our lives have cross intersected in any

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number of ways um uh traveling with

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number of ways um uh traveling with

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secretaries of State uh being on the

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secretaries of State uh being on the

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same campus as students at gobl Michigan

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same campus as students at gobl Michigan

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um so and and we've shared uh positions

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um so and and we've shared uh positions

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at at think tanks as well um and we

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at at think tanks as well um and we

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agree on on a lot I think what I'd

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agree on on a lot I think what I'd

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probably do is I also covered I've

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probably do is I also covered I've

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covered this tragedy in the Middle East

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covered this tragedy in the Middle East

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for 50 years I landed in Beirut on

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for 50 years I landed in Beirut on

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October 6 1973 and I remember being at

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October 6 1973 and I remember being at

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the airport uh in Beirut in the transit

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the airport uh in Beirut in the transit

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Lounge I was actually on my way to Iran

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Lounge I was actually on my way to Iran

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and a woman whispered to me very

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and a woman whispered to me very

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anxiously the Egyptians have just

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anxiously the Egyptians have just

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crossed the Suez Canal um what we've

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crossed the Suez Canal um what we've

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really seen play out is the evolution of

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really seen play out is the evolution of

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a type of warfare that's important to

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a type of warfare that's important to

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understand uh between 1948 and 1973

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understand uh between 1948 and 1973

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Israel went through through four

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Israel went through through four

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conventional Wars but every war in the

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conventional Wars but every war in the

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half century since then has pitted

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half century since then has pitted

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Israel against a non-state actor be it

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Israel against a non-state actor be it

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the Palestinian Liberation Organization

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the Palestinian Liberation Organization

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has bull

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has bull

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Hamas um Hezbollah again Hamas again and

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Hamas um Hezbollah again Hamas again and

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it's very under important I think to

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it's very under important I think to

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understand the pattern of warfare

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understand the pattern of warfare

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because it is much harder to fight a

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because it is much harder to fight a

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non-state actor to fight a militia than

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non-state actor to fight a militia than

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it is to fight a state where you know

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it is to fight a state where you know

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what the Diplomatic address is what the

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what the Diplomatic address is what the

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potential diplomatic engagement might be

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potential diplomatic engagement might be

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and uh what an outcome might be in terms

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and uh what an outcome might be in terms

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of uh of peace and I think with an

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of uh of peace and I think with an

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unconventional actor a non-state actor

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unconventional actor a non-state actor

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you have basic question questions what

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you have basic question questions what

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is winning what is peace what is the

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is winning what is peace what is the

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alternative and all of these questions

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alternative and all of these questions

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are today

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are today

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unanswerable I think uh when I look at

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unanswerable I think uh when I look at

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where we are now I think we are at a

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where we are now I think we are at a

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precipice we are not about to fall off

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precipice we are not about to fall off

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the precipice but and I think in fact

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the precipice but and I think in fact

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that the the outside actors who are kind

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that the the outside actors who are kind

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of Quasi engaged or have a quazi have a

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of Quasi engaged or have a quazi have a

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stake in this conflict whether it's Iran

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stake in this conflict whether it's Iran

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on one side the unit States and the

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on one side the unit States and the

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other several militias in Yemen Iraq

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other several militias in Yemen Iraq

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Syria and Lebanon that that at this

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Syria and Lebanon that that at this

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point none of them want a bigger War but

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point none of them want a bigger War but

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as we all know from the history of

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as we all know from the history of

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conflict it takes one incident to

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conflict it takes one incident to

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escalate to get it out of control to

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escalate to get it out of control to

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lead us on a different trajectory and

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lead us on a different trajectory and

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the algorithm of this of this war is

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the algorithm of this of this war is

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different than any of the previous

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different than any of the previous

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conflicts between Israel and the

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conflicts between Israel and the

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non-state actors in that in the past it

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non-state actors in that in the past it

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has been a provocation by one one of the

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has been a provocation by one one of the

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militias an Israeli countered with air

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militias an Israeli countered with air

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strikes perhaps small grounds ground

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strikes perhaps small grounds ground

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actions uh but then got her in Egypt

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actions uh but then got her in Egypt

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particularly get go in and engage in in

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particularly get go in and engage in in

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um some kind of temporary ceasefire with

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um some kind of temporary ceasefire with

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the emphasis on temporary and the

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the emphasis on temporary and the

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problem is that none of the core

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problem is that none of the core

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questions uh that have defined this

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questions uh that have defined this

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conflict the fate of the Palestinians

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conflict the fate of the Palestinians

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you know the relations between Israel

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you know the relations between Israel

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and its uh Arab or Muslim neighbors have

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and its uh Arab or Muslim neighbors have

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been addressed since 1948 and there have

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been addressed since 1948 and there have

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been attempts now um kind of taking the

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been attempts now um kind of taking the

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my dad always said to understand any

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my dad always said to understand any

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conflict you have to stand on top of the

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conflict you have to stand on top of the

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world and look down and it's very good

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world and look down and it's very good

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advice right now uh I think what's

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advice right now uh I think what's

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important to understand is that uh since

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important to understand is that uh since

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since the 1970s for a half almost a half

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since the 1970s for a half almost a half

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century there has been slowly a

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century there has been slowly a

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tapestry uh that has been woven by play

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tapestry uh that has been woven by play

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players whether it's Israel and Egypt F

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players whether it's Israel and Egypt F

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first and then Israel and Jordan and

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first and then Israel and Jordan and

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then now through the Abraham Accords a

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then now through the Abraham Accords a

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tapestry and the tapestry has uh it's

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tapestry and the tapestry has uh it's

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not finished uh it's partially there but

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not finished uh it's partially there but

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it was bringing together different

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it was bringing together different

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threads different um types of government

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threads different um types of government

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different uh ethnicities and religions

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different uh ethnicities and religions

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in uh what what everyone what many

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in uh what what everyone what many

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players intended to be um you know a way

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players intended to be um you know a way

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if

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if

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countries didn't like each other had

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countries didn't like each other had

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different

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different

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religions uh but that could coexist in a

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religions uh but that could coexist in a

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kind of cold peace and my fear is that

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kind of cold peace and my fear is that

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this war and its consequences and Ain is

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this war and its consequences and Ain is

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absolutely right the

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absolutely right the

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consequences are are just huge huge huge

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consequences are are just huge huge huge

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and and in involve far more than the

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and and in involve far more than the

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fate of Israel and Hamas that that

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fate of Israel and Hamas that that

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tapestry unravels and we get back to

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tapestry unravels and we get back to

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zero and we have to start with pulling

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zero and we have to start with pulling

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the first two threads together and

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the first two threads together and

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that's how dangerous it is and just to

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that's how dangerous it is and just to

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give you a sampling of what that might

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give you a sampling of what that might

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be um does Israel eliminate Hamas uh at

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be um does Israel eliminate Hamas uh at

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least you know shortterm it's leadership

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least you know shortterm it's leadership

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it's destroy it its arsenals uh its

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it's destroy it its arsenals uh its

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command posts and so forth but does that

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command posts and so forth but does that

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lead to um you know a different

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lead to um you know a different

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Evolution a different idea a different

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Evolution a different idea a different

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group emerging does this uh cause such

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group emerging does this uh cause such

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anger and fury among Palestinians in the

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anger and fury among Palestinians in the

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West Bank that uh Israel regains

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West Bank that uh Israel regains

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temporarily control of God but loses

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temporarily control of God but loses

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West Bank as a potential interlocutor

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West Bank as a potential interlocutor

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and does this lead uh governments in the

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and does this lead uh governments in the

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region that have tried or been willing

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region that have tried or been willing

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to talk to Israel does that LE make it

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to talk to Israel does that LE make it

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impossible for them to move forward for

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impossible for them to move forward for

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years to come that the stakes here are

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years to come that the stakes here are

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so big um and on the last question you

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so big um and on the last question you

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know Iran and and all of this I think

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know Iran and and all of this I think

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what's really interesting is that the

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what's really interesting is that the

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militias have clearly uh in Iraq in

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militias have clearly uh in Iraq in

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Yemen in Lebanon have been probing

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Yemen in Lebanon have been probing

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have been uh the United States forces or

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have been uh the United States forces or

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B places where they have been based have

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B places where they have been based have

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been hit TW uh multiple times in Iraq

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been hit TW uh multiple times in Iraq

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and Syria um Iran's allies in Yemen have

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and Syria um Iran's allies in Yemen have

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have uh allegedly targeted Israel with

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have uh allegedly targeted Israel with

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missiles and drones that were shot down

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missiles and drones that were shot down

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by the us and one by Saudi Arabia um uh

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by the us and one by Saudi Arabia um uh

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but we haven't seen the escalation yet

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but we haven't seen the escalation yet

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and the question is will will that

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and the question is will will that

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change once the ground assault begins or

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change once the ground assault begins or

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are there certain boundaries that that

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are there certain boundaries that that

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are set in terms of how far the

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are set in terms of how far the

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escalation goes it'll escalate by all of

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escalation goes it'll escalate by all of

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them they'll be probing trying to get

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them they'll be probing trying to get

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the US the raise the cost of the US says

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the US the raise the cost of the US says

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oh we'll pull our forces out of 900 out

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oh we'll pull our forces out of 900 out

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of Syria and some of the 2500 out of

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of Syria and some of the 2500 out of

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Iraq which actually plays into Iran's

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Iraq which actually plays into Iran's

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hand that it gains side benefits from

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hand that it gains side benefits from

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this conflict so uh again this one as

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this conflict so uh again this one as

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Aon rightly said is just so big uh and

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Aon rightly said is just so big uh and

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will play out potentially for years to

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will play out potentially for years to

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come even if Israel makes military

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come even if Israel makes military

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Headway in the not too distant future

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Headway in the not too distant future

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against Hamas all right so uh we're

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against Hamas all right so uh we're

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gonna uh ask some questions and and and

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gonna uh ask some questions and and and

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and see uh how you you want to uh uh

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and see uh how you you want to uh uh

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answer them I'm getting some messages

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answer them I'm getting some messages

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from uh uh the team that prepares these

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from uh uh the team that prepares these

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so I don't have anything from the

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so I don't have anything from the

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audience yet but let me ask you uh uh

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audience yet but let me ask you uh uh

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this there is a rumor going on and I I'm

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this there is a rumor going on and I I'm

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interested what what the two of you

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interested what what the two of you

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think that

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think that

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um what what's really happening because

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um what what's really happening because

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the Saudi Israeli possibility was was

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the Saudi Israeli possibility was was

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hurt so badly by this attack that if uh

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hurt so badly by this attack that if uh

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Israel is able and that this is one of

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Israel is able and that this is one of

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the factors with for Israel that if

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the factors with for Israel that if

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Israel manages to uh destroy Hamas that

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Israel manages to uh destroy Hamas that

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that will improve the possibility ities

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that will improve the possibility ities

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of a

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of a

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uh of a Saudi Israeli uh new uh

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uh of a Saudi Israeli uh new uh

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relationship and and of course hurting

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relationship and and of course hurting

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uh hurting Iran it actually increases

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uh hurting Iran it actually increases

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their Rel their

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their Rel their

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relationship uh uh uh I also have

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relationship uh uh uh I also have

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another question I like to ask more than

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another question I like to ask more than

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one so you could skip one uh and that is

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one so you could skip one uh and that is

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um this comes from Mary uh Mary elen

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um this comes from Mary uh Mary elen

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hegland professor ameritus of Santa clar

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hegland professor ameritus of Santa clar

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university in the United States do you

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university in the United States do you

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think Netanyahu Bears any responsibility

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think Netanyahu Bears any responsibility

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for all of this by promoting illegal

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for all of this by promoting illegal

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Israeli settlements on Palestinian land

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Israeli settlements on Palestinian land

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so uh why don't we start with Aaron uh

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so uh why don't we start with Aaron uh

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since he started the first question has

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since he started the first question has

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had a moment to rest for uh uh and there

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had a moment to rest for uh uh and there

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are two questions you can answer one or

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are two questions you can answer one or

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both Aon uh on Saudi Arabia I think in

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both Aon uh on Saudi Arabia I think in

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Israeli Politics the famous saw is that

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Israeli Politics the famous saw is that

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you can be dead or dead and buried I

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you can be dead or dead and buried I

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think that the US Saudi Israeli

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think that the US Saudi Israeli

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normalization process is just dead it's

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normalization process is just dead it's

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not Clos for the season but I would note

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not Clos for the season but I would note

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this that if in fact the destruction of

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this that if in fact the destruction of

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Hamas occurs and that's something we

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Hamas occurs and that's something we

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should talk about Hamas is has an

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should talk about Hamas is has an

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administrative governing Sovereign

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administrative governing Sovereign

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structure it has a military structure

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structure it has a military structure

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it's also an the organizational

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it's also an the organizational

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embodiment of an idea and it has deep

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embodiment of an idea and it has deep

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root social and economic through the

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root social and economic through the

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dawa the so-called calling to uh

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dawa the so-called calling to uh

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Palestinians in in Gaza since the early

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Palestinians in in Gaza since the early

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80s so the destruction of Hamas and

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80s so the destruction of Hamas and

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Robin's point is is right on is going to

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Robin's point is is right on is going to

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create destruction of the death and

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create destruction of the death and

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destruction in

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destruction in

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Gaza largely against Palestinians

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Gaza largely against Palestinians

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civilians is going to undermine the

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civilians is going to undermine the

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prospects of

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legitimizing uh any Palestinian

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legitimizing uh any Palestinian

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interlocutor that is wants to presume to

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interlocutor that is wants to presume to

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negotiate in the wake of this uh MBs is

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negotiate in the wake of this uh MBs is

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38 years

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old uh assuming he gets to be king of

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old uh assuming he gets to be king of

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Saudi Arabia he will rule Saudi Arabia

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Saudi Arabia he will rule Saudi Arabia

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arguably for 50 or more years he will

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arguably for 50 or more years he will

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see during those 50 years six or seven

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see during those 50 years six or seven

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maybe more American Presidents come and

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maybe more American Presidents come and

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go he is pursuing a 360 degree foreign

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go he is pursuing a 360 degree foreign

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policy not tethering himself to the

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policy not tethering himself to the

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United States he sees China Rising in a

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United States he sees China Rising in a

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Saudi sense which is important he's not

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Saudi sense which is important he's not

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going to abandon Russia because of the

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going to abandon Russia because of the

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OPEC plus I think MBS will survey the

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OPEC plus I think MBS will survey the

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wreckage he wants things from the United

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wreckage he wants things from the United

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States much more important frankly than

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States much more important frankly than

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what happens on the Palestinian issue

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what happens on the Palestinian issue

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for him that was clearly the case before

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for him that was clearly the case before

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the Palestinian issue were way more

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the Palestinian issue were way more

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heavily now so I think he'll take his

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heavily now so I think he'll take his

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time and he'll make a judgment as to

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time and he'll make a judgment as to

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whether or not a he can get everything

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whether or not a he can get everything

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he wants from this Administration which

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he wants from this Administration which

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is a mutual defense treaty I might add

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is a mutual defense treaty I might add

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the last time the United

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the last time the United

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States submitted a mutual defense treaty

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States submitted a mutual defens